Interesting Question.. If You Had To Start From Scratch Today Could You Do It? - GoFuckYourself.com

Shap · 04-22-2005, 02:49 PM

I just had lunch with one of our Crew and this question came up. Alot of people here can attribute alot of their success to timing and or having funds available to them. If you had to start everything from scratch today with little money and build from the ground up and without using your reputation or connections. Starting out 100% fresh only with the knowledge you've acquired. Could you do it?

I know for a fact I could without a problem, I did it once and could do it again

Anybody else? I know alot of the people I know could not.

04-22-2005, 02:55 PM

simple answer ............. NO

Bomber8888 · 04-22-2005, 02:57 PM

Definitely.. without a doubt!

WiredGuy · 04-22-2005, 02:58 PM

Yup, I got lucky in the beginning because of a relatively uncompetitive market and low cost to entry but I could replicate the success today after the years of experience I've had underneath my belt. It would be much harder but definitely doable.
WG

ElvisManson · 04-22-2005, 02:59 PM

Hell Yeah.

have done it twice already.

Steve · 04-22-2005, 02:59 PM

yes - without a doubt

sonofsam · 04-22-2005, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shap

I just had lunch with one of our Crew and this question came up. Alot of people here can attribute alot of their success to timing and or having funds available to them. If you had to start everything from scratch today with little money and build from the ground up and without using your reputation or connections. Starting out 100% fresh only with the knowledge you've acquired. Could you do it?

I know for a fact I could without a problem, I did it once and could do it again

Anybody else? I know alot of the people I know could not.

great question... i have done just that... my site launches as soon as it gets ccbill approval and i will let you know

AaronM · 04-22-2005, 02:59 PM

Could I do it? Yes.

Would I do it? Not sure. Probably not.

JayRevenue · 04-22-2005, 03:03 PM

i have done it before. i would do it again if need be.

Fake Nick · 04-22-2005, 03:05 PM

I make no money now , and I think I could make no money again when starting from scratch

Napolean · 04-22-2005, 03:05 PM

bring it on

DomBuyer · 04-22-2005, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fake Nick

I make no money now , and I think I could make no money again when starting from scratch

Word.

Bike · 04-22-2005, 03:09 PM

Yes, no doubt.

Shap · 04-22-2005, 03:10 PM

Interesting point Aaron. That's a whole other debate LOL.

I think the guys that would have the most trouble are some of the old timers. It was real easy money back then and alot of them probably would not have a clue of what to do today if they had to do it all again. I see alot of these guys have sat back on their success and not really kept up to date with the industry.

Manowar · 04-22-2005, 03:26 PM

For sure.

Furious_Female · 04-22-2005, 04:07 PM

I start completely over every few months actually.

AaronM · 04-22-2005, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shap

Interesting point Aaron. That's a whole other debate LOL.

I think the guys that would have the most trouble are some of the old timers. It was real easy money back then and alot of them probably would not have a clue of what to do today if they had to do it all again. I see alot of these guys have sat back on their success and not really kept up to date with the industry.

The way I see it...The amount of morons in this business increases exponentially every year. Thankfully, I've been establishing contacts for long enough that I can directly reach pretty much anybody that I want/need to reach these days without having to rely on others.

Gone are the days of real webmasters. These new people don't know jack shit other than all they have to do is sign up for a program and milk it for all it's worth. Free content, free hosting, design this for me, upload that....Hell, now days there are sponsors who will even submit FHG's with your linking code.

It's become pretty fucking sad.

There's a lot that I still don't know about this business, especially when it comes to programming and technical shit like that....But at least I try to learn which is more than can be said about most of the newbies.

Shap · 04-22-2005, 04:33 PM

Hey Aaron could you contact me or give me your contact details. I've been meaning to hit you up to do some business together

JFPdude · 04-22-2005, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

The way I see it...The amount of morons in this business increases exponentially every year. Thankfully, I've been establishing contacts for long enough that I can directly reach pretty much anybody that I want/need to reach these days without having to rely on others.

Gone are the days of real webmasters. These new people don't know jack shit other than all they have to do is sign up for a program and milk it for all it's worth. Free content, free hosting, design this for me, upload that....Hell, now days there are sponsors who will even submit FHG's with your linking code.

It's become pretty fucking sad.

There's a lot that I still don't know about this business, especially when it comes to programming and technical shit like that....But at least I try to learn which is more than can be said about most of the newbies.

Amen to that. However there are new people entering the industry that are willing to learn and work. They have been through the free stuff and realize there is no money there.

Could I start today from nothing and build again. Yes I am doing just that.

But it requires work. Unlike a few years ago when the competition level wasn't there.

If you are coming in today and just think you can rape the sponsors for all the free stuff and do nothing and succeed? well you might want to think again.

Also if you have no money, no skills, and you just want a free ride.... McDonalds is hiring.

sandman! · 04-22-2005, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shap

I just had lunch with one of our Crew and this question came up. Alot of people here can attribute alot of their success to timing and or having funds available to them. If you had to start everything from scratch today with little money and build from the ground up and without using your reputation or connections. Starting out 100% fresh only with the knowledge you've acquired. Could you do it?

I know for a fact I could without a problem, I did it once and could do it again

Anybody else? I know alot of the people I know could not.

i have bounced in and out of adult many times so yea it can be done

ChrisExtreme · 04-22-2005, 04:36 PM

Yes, but I think it would be harder now then it was a few years back.

Rorschach · 04-22-2005, 04:39 PM

Definitely, give me an internet connection, my scripts and DBs and some free hosting accounts and I'll be rocking from zero to hero in 3 days.

jayeff · 04-22-2005, 05:00 PM

Modest success is usually achievable by effort with a modicum of skill and knowledge, so it is repeatable. Serious success is something else altogether because however much we would like to tell ourselves otherwise, luck and timing play major roles.

To illustrate: my first business success came about at the time of the oil crisis in the early 70's when I had a respectable but unremarkable operation. I didn't realize it at the time, but I went on looking to expand my business while almost all my competitors had decided to dig in until the market eased. When business took off again a couple of years later, I had a solid customer base and the means to service it, and emerged with one of the biggest companies of its kind in London.

Could I have repeated that success? I seriously doubt it. Not only was my success a product of the times as much as my decision, but that decision could have been disastrous if the recession had been deeper or lasted longer. So while I have always been grateful I got that one right, I never under-estimated the part that luck played.

Obviously there are exceptions. But it is far easier to find entrepreneurs who subsequently fail (often spectacularly), than it is to find ones who bring a Midas touch to a string of ventures.

bigdog · 04-22-2005, 06:15 PM

shap saying if you started now with nothing you think you could make 1M+ year in a short time?

SomeCreep · 04-22-2005, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shap

If you had to start everything from scratch today with little money and build from the ground up and without using your reputation or connections. Starting out 100% fresh only with the knowledge you've acquired. Could you do it?

Absolutely positively.

pxxx · 04-22-2005, 06:18 PM

I am still trying to get constant bank, because i am fairly new comparing to others here, but i has been very hard, especially with not much to fund it, it is doable though.

EddiePulp · 04-22-2005, 06:19 PM

hell yes, with my knowledge across the board coding, graphics and marketing.. I'm unstopable

Babagirls · 04-22-2005, 06:19 PM

i already did that.
i started in 2001 and then got out of the biz from 2002-(early)2004.

it was was fuckin hard as hell to do. Took me a good 6 months to re-build 'my empire', make new contacts, get my name out there, do some trades, re-learn a TON of shit, and basically, just start from scratch. It was a nightmare. And my answer is NO, i wouldnt do it for the 3rd time.

Shap · 04-22-2005, 07:41 PM

Hmm Bigdog good question. I hadn't thought of it that way. I had thought of it more if I was stripped of everything now would i do well in this biz? To that the answer is yes. I built it from the ground up and was in charge of every aspect of our success from the beginning. The flip question: could i match our existing success? Without funding and with the current industry situation I would have to say no. When you really sit down and think about it it would be extremely difficult to do. You stumped me at my own question

Btw next show we have to meet up. I remember seeing you at the mgp party snapping off pics left and right

Maureenoz · 04-22-2005, 07:45 PM

My answer would be no.

We started out in 1996 with $500. In today's climate we couldn't do it again.

But we know we could earn enough money to live comfortably.

Major (Tom) · 04-22-2005, 08:40 PM

I'm sure I could. I have solidified enough solid relationships to get me back on my feet if need be, but quite honestly Shap, it would be a huge mental obstacle overcomming it.
Duke

BVF · 04-22-2005, 09:00 PM

I don't think I could do it....It took YEARS to build up this shit.

I got my start from a 10,000+ yahoo club that I built up from providing FREE weekly sets of girls to my club members...I was able to get a signup within an hour of setting up my paysite.

Now, Yahoo clubs/groups are dead. You don't get the 100+ members signing up per day and you don't have the adult club directory on Yahoo....If I didn't have that, I'd just be another newb with no traffic trying to peddle some crack hoes. I've seen plenty of people try to follow me and MISERABLY fail and they did it because they didn't have a fan base before they started their paysite.

Plus I was just to IGNORANT to know that starting a paysite as a newb would almost guarantee failure. I never joined a paysite before I started mine and I rarely surfed them so I had virtually NO experience in internet porn when I started. I just knew that I had an audience and that I could work it for my own benefit.

My success is built on time, luck, early entry, good marketing, excellent salespitch writing, and branding and less on actual webmastering skill...I've built my name on the SURFERS telling others about me and not on networking with others in the biz.

So if I had to start today, I highly doubt that I would have made it...Yahoo Groups are dead now....I also wouldn't have been able to pay the 750 visa registration fee as a newb instead of visa coming along AFTER I was making enough to just pay them with deductions from my current income.

I wouldn't have made it...Seriously.

BVF · 04-22-2005, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

I'm sure I could. I have solidified enough solid relationships to get me back on my feet if need be, but quite honestly Shap, it would be a huge mental obstacle overcomming it.
Duke

Yeah but he said FORGET about your connections...He only said based on your CURRENT KNOWLEDGE.

tony286 · 04-22-2005, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF

Yeah but he said FORGET about your connections...He only said based on your CURRENT KNOWLEDGE.

Thats right and Thank you for being one of the few on this thread who is being real

quiet · 04-22-2005, 09:30 PM

i would have absolutely no interest in, or motivation for starting over.

Shoplifter · 04-22-2005, 10:58 PM

Knowing what I know now it would be no problem at all.

But if I was a totally green newb faced with all of the difficulties today (Visa regs, fees, competition etc.) I would probably pass.

Snake Doctor · 04-22-2005, 11:12 PM

That's a tough one.

When I first started there was lots of free traffic available. Not many people were posting to TGP's, bandwidth was expensive. You could actually get galleries listed every day on free hosts that had headers and footers, or on terra.es and shit like that.

Today there is very little free traffic. So even though you can get free hosting, free content, free whatever from sponsors, you still need traffic to make $$.

Without the capital to buy the traffic I don't know if I could get to this level again.

Its possible but it would take a long time.....fight for every scrap of free traffic out there and reinvest every dime made back into the biz.

Hopefully this will all remain a hypothetical *knocks on wood*

xclusive · 04-22-2005, 11:15 PM

Yes but it would be a lot harder as there is just more competition each and every day but with the knowledge that I have aquired over the years I think I could get pretty close to what I have today

jact · 04-22-2005, 11:21 PM

I did it once before, and I'm in the process of doing it again, business seems to go in cycles for me. I have a lot more knowledge to deal with it and make things work the way I need them to this time around so I think I'll be just fine.

Mr.Fiction · 04-22-2005, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayeff

Modest success is usually achievable by effort with a modicum of skill and knowledge, so it is repeatable. Serious success is something else altogether because however much we would like to tell ourselves otherwise, luck and timing play major roles.

To illustrate: my first business success came about at the time of the oil crisis in the early 70's when I had a respectable but unremarkable operation. I didn't realize it at the time, but I went on looking to expand my business while almost all my competitors had decided to dig in until the market eased. When business took off again a couple of years later, I had a solid customer base and the means to service it, and emerged with one of the biggest companies of its kind in London.

Could I have repeated that success? I seriously doubt it. Not only was my success a product of the times as much as my decision, but that decision could have been disastrous if the recession had been deeper or lasted longer. So while I have always been grateful I got that one right, I never under-estimated the part that luck played.

Obviously there are exceptions. But it is far easier to find entrepreneurs who subsequently fail (often spectacularly), than it is to find ones who bring a Midas touch to a string of ventures.

Good points. No matter how much knowledge anyone has now, there will be no second chance at getting on the internet early. That opportunity will never come again.

NaughtyRob · 04-22-2005, 11:23 PM

I have started from scratch many times and succeed every time.

chowda · 04-22-2005, 11:44 PM

im starting an affiliate prog, nothing adult.

but the potential is huge. and ive only seen 1-2 at most sites offering it.

its gonna be big

jonpotz · 04-22-2005, 11:47 PM

probably the best question on gfy ever....

i have to say yes, i could do it...

you know why?

because if you have determination then you can do anything.

its all about getting traffic that converts.

anyone can read on how to get traffic that converts.

so, GET THAT TRAFFIC NEWBIES!

Matt_WildCash · 04-23-2005, 01:09 AM

Time & Luck do play a certain part. If I had to start again with nothing in the bank I'm not sure if I could redo it from scratch but if I had $50k to play with I could certainly do it again. Certainly risks though its nice to have backing and a fallback business thats still making money

onlymovies · 04-23-2005, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shap

If you had to start everything from scratch today with little money and build from the ground up and without using your reputation or connections. Starting out 100% fresh only with the knowledge you've acquired. Could you do it?

Absolutely...

Lee · 04-23-2005, 02:39 AM

I think Pimpdog was the perfect model for showing it could be done in a time that was after the initial goldrush. An unusual tactic perhaps, but he proved it could be done by combining lots of the aforementioned elements with an off the wall marketing strategy.

As for myself, I am certain I would struggle.

mhende6600 · 04-27-2005, 06:42 PM

I have had to start over 2 times and each time I did it better so ,yes if I had to. I work better with mt back against the wall.

Martin · 04-27-2005, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quiet

i would have absolutely no interest in, or motivation for starting over.

Same here man.. I would rather get into a trade of some sort. Might do that still.

Napolean · 04-27-2005, 08:07 PM

doin it now

gotta love when a host eats your files ;)

SleazyDream · 04-27-2005, 08:08 PM

i kinda feel like i start EVERY day from scratch.

i really don't want to see the day where I don't feel like that.

04-22-2005, 02:49 PM	#1
Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	Interesting Question.. If You Had To Start From Scratch Today Could You Do It? I just had lunch with one of our Crew and this question came up. Alot of people here can attribute alot of their success to timing and or having funds available to them. If you had to start everything from scratch today with little money and build from the ground up and without using your reputation or connections. Starting out 100% fresh only with the knowledge you've acquired. Could you do it? I know for a fact I could without a problem, I did it once and could do it again Anybody else? I know alot of the people I know could not.

04-22-2005, 02:57 PM	#3
Bomber8888 Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,444	Definitely.. without a doubt! __________________ Icq - 403858640 bomber.jason AT gmail dot com

04-22-2005, 02:58 PM	#4
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,476	Yup, I got lucky in the beginning because of a relatively uncompetitive market and low cost to entry but I could replicate the success today after the years of experience I've had underneath my belt. It would be much harder but definitely doable. WG __________________ I play with Google.

04-22-2005, 03:03 PM	#9
JayRevenue Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 240	i have done it before. i would do it again if need be. __________________ icq: 291096009

04-22-2005, 03:05 PM	#11
Napolean Old school Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Kettering, OH Posts: 4,327	bring it on __________________ Need a programmer? (Desktop/Web Applications) --- Skype: napoleande

04-22-2005, 02:55 PM	#2
ThumbLord Guest Posts: n/a	simple answer ............. NO

04-22-2005, 02:59 PM	#5
ElvisManson Looking California Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 5,476	Hell Yeah. have done it twice already.

04-22-2005, 02:59 PM	#6
Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	yes - without a doubt

04-22-2005, 02:59 PM	#8
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	Could I do it? Yes. Would I do it? Not sure. Probably not.

04-22-2005, 03:05 PM	#10
Fake Nick So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: go troll goo! Posts: 7,708	I make no money now , and I think I could make no money again when starting from scratch

04-22-2005, 03:09 PM	#13
Bike Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,363	Yes, no doubt.

04-22-2005, 03:10 PM	#14
Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	Interesting point Aaron. That's a whole other debate LOL. I think the guys that would have the most trouble are some of the old timers. It was real easy money back then and alot of them probably would not have a clue of what to do today if they had to do it all again. I see alot of these guys have sat back on their success and not really kept up to date with the industry.

04-22-2005, 03:26 PM	#15
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	For sure.

04-22-2005, 04:07 PM	#16
Furious_Female Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Upstate, New York Posts: 8,187	I start completely over every few months actually. __________________ Skype: j3nn.com ICQ 160370494 My current favorite high-converting sponsor: CrakRevenue

04-22-2005, 04:33 PM	#18
Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	Hey Aaron could you contact me or give me your contact details. I've been meaning to hit you up to do some business together

04-22-2005, 04:39 PM	#22
Rorschach So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,579	Definitely, give me an internet connection, my scripts and DBs and some free hosting accounts and I'll be rocking from zero to hero in 3 days.

04-22-2005, 05:00 PM	#23
jayeff Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,944	Modest success is usually achievable by effort with a modicum of skill and knowledge, so it is repeatable. Serious success is something else altogether because however much we would like to tell ourselves otherwise, luck and timing play major roles. To illustrate: my first business success came about at the time of the oil crisis in the early 70's when I had a respectable but unremarkable operation. I didn't realize it at the time, but I went on looking to expand my business while almost all my competitors had decided to dig in until the market eased. When business took off again a couple of years later, I had a solid customer base and the means to service it, and emerged with one of the biggest companies of its kind in London. Could I have repeated that success? I seriously doubt it. Not only was my success a product of the times as much as my decision, but that decision could have been disastrous if the recession had been deeper or lasted longer. So while I have always been grateful I got that one right, I never under-estimated the part that luck played. Obviously there are exceptions. But it is far easier to find entrepreneurs who subsequently fail (often spectacularly), than it is to find ones who bring a Midas touch to a string of ventures.

04-22-2005, 06:15 PM	#24
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	shap saying if you started now with nothing you think you could make 1M+ year in a short time?

04-22-2005, 06:18 PM	#26
pxxx First African GFY Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 12,114	I am still trying to get constant bank, because i am fairly new comparing to others here, but i has been very hard, especially with not much to fund it, it is doable though.

04-22-2005, 06:19 PM	#27
EddiePulp Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Australia iCQ:408018496 Posts: 1,332	hell yes, with my knowledge across the board coding, graphics and marketing.. I'm unstopable __________________ I dont need a sig.

04-22-2005, 06:19 PM	#28
Babagirls Text Writer Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 18,812	i already did that. i started in 2001 and then got out of the biz from 2002-(early)2004. it was was fuckin hard as hell to do. Took me a good 6 months to re-build 'my empire', make new contacts, get my name out there, do some trades, re-learn a TON of shit, and basically, just start from scratch. It was a nightmare. And my answer is NO, i wouldnt do it for the 3rd time. __________________ Need a Text Writer? Blogs\|Reviews\|Descriptions\|Paysites\|TGP's\|Stories ICQ: 397892500

04-22-2005, 07:41 PM	#29
Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	Hmm Bigdog good question. I hadn't thought of it that way. I had thought of it more if I was stripped of everything now would i do well in this biz? To that the answer is yes. I built it from the ground up and was in charge of every aspect of our success from the beginning. The flip question: could i match our existing success? Without funding and with the current industry situation I would have to say no. When you really sit down and think about it it would be extremely difficult to do. You stumped me at my own question Btw next show we have to meet up. I remember seeing you at the mgp party snapping off pics left and right

04-22-2005, 07:45 PM	#30
Maureenoz I'm older than you are. Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: very far south Posts: 165	My answer would be no. We started out in 1996 with $500. In today's climate we couldn't do it again. But we know we could earn enough money to live comfortably. __________________ Love Ain't FREE! SexyAds.Com

04-22-2005, 08:40 PM	#31
Major (Tom) Boomer Woffen Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Null Posts: 30,279	I'm sure I could. I have solidified enough solid relationships to get me back on my feet if need be, but quite honestly Shap, it would be a huge mental obstacle overcomming it. Duke __________________ My mother said, to get things done You'd better not mess with Major Tom

04-22-2005, 09:00 PM	#32
BVF Black Vagina Finder Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Midwest Posts: 13,975	I don't think I could do it....It took YEARS to build up this shit. I got my start from a 10,000+ yahoo club that I built up from providing FREE weekly sets of girls to my club members...I was able to get a signup within an hour of setting up my paysite. Now, Yahoo clubs/groups are dead. You don't get the 100+ members signing up per day and you don't have the adult club directory on Yahoo....If I didn't have that, I'd just be another newb with no traffic trying to peddle some crack hoes. I've seen plenty of people try to follow me and MISERABLY fail and they did it because they didn't have a fan base before they started their paysite. Plus I was just to IGNORANT to know that starting a paysite as a newb would almost guarantee failure. I never joined a paysite before I started mine and I rarely surfed them so I had virtually NO experience in internet porn when I started. I just knew that I had an audience and that I could work it for my own benefit. My success is built on time, luck, early entry, good marketing, excellent salespitch writing, and branding and less on actual webmastering skill...I've built my name on the SURFERS telling others about me and not on networking with others in the biz. So if I had to start today, I highly doubt that I would have made it...Yahoo Groups are dead now....I also wouldn't have been able to pay the 750 visa registration fee as a newb instead of visa coming along AFTER I was making enough to just pay them with deductions from my current income. I wouldn't have made it...Seriously. __________________ Black Pussy Click On Mr Cosby..CCbill, 60/40, 136 FHG's....The Cos Loves Black Ghetto Pussy!!

04-22-2005, 09:30 PM	#35
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	i would have absolutely no interest in, or motivation for starting over. __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

04-22-2005, 10:58 PM	#36
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,716	Knowing what I know now it would be no problem at all. But if I was a totally green newb faced with all of the difficulties today (Visa regs, fees, competition etc.) I would probably pass.

04-22-2005, 11:12 PM	#37
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	That's a tough one. When I first started there was lots of free traffic available. Not many people were posting to TGP's, bandwidth was expensive. You could actually get galleries listed every day on free hosts that had headers and footers, or on terra.es and shit like that. Today there is very little free traffic. So even though you can get free hosting, free content, free whatever from sponsors, you still need traffic to make $$. Without the capital to buy the traffic I don't know if I could get to this level again. Its possible but it would take a long time.....fight for every scrap of free traffic out there and reinvest every dime made back into the biz. Hopefully this will all remain a hypothetical knocks on wood __________________ sig too big

04-22-2005, 11:15 PM	#38
xclusive Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 35,218	Yes but it would be a lot harder as there is just more competition each and every day but with the knowledge that I have aquired over the years I think I could get pretty close to what I have today __________________ I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /

04-22-2005, 11:21 PM	#39
jact Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Canada Posts: 9,134	I did it once before, and I'm in the process of doing it again, business seems to go in cycles for me. I have a lot more knowledge to deal with it and make things work the way I need them to this time around so I think I'll be just fine. __________________ Free agent

04-22-2005, 11:23 PM	#41
NaughtyRob Two fresh affiliate progs Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Inside teen pussy Posts: 29,602	I have started from scratch many times and succeed every time. __________________ [email protected] Skype: 17026955414 Vacares Web Hosting - Protect Your Ass with Included Daily Backups

04-22-2005, 11:44 PM	#42
chowda Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gooch city Posts: 9,527	im starting an affiliate prog, nothing adult. but the potential is huge. and ive only seen 1-2 at most sites offering it. its gonna be big __________________ Someone finds you... 2007 PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.

04-22-2005, 11:47 PM	#43
jonpotz Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 960	probably the best question on gfy ever.... i have to say yes, i could do it... you know why? because if you have determination then you can do anything. its all about getting traffic that converts. anyone can read on how to get traffic that converts. so, GET THAT TRAFFIC NEWBIES!

04-23-2005, 01:09 AM	#44
Matt_WildCash Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,699	Time & Luck do play a certain part. If I had to start again with nothing in the bank I'm not sure if I could redo it from scratch but if I had $50k to play with I could certainly do it again. Certainly risks though its nice to have backing and a fallback business thats still making money

04-23-2005, 02:39 AM	#46
Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kernow Posts: 2,977	I think Pimpdog was the perfect model for showing it could be done in a time that was after the initial goldrush. An unusual tactic perhaps, but he proved it could be done by combining lots of the aforementioned elements with an off the wall marketing strategy. As for myself, I am certain I would struggle.