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Old 04-19-2005, 07:42 PM   #1
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what's the best martial arts for self defense?

i'm thinking about learning self defense, but i don't know anything about martial arts.

what would be best to learn to protect myself from some girl's pissed-off boyfriend at a bar or similar situation?

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Old 04-19-2005, 07:44 PM   #2
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Old 04-19-2005, 07:45 PM   #3
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Aikido.

I love it. There's no offensive moves in it whatsoever. It's all defensive, and it's fun to watch an unsuspecting idiot fly.
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Actually it's a Mexican art, El-Glocko. Do a google on it, you will be inspired.
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Old 04-19-2005, 07:46 PM   #5
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thanks bv, that will help me pick up the chix into the whole "robocop" look.
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I've been doing Krav Maga for over a year now, lost lots of weight and can defend myself in 95% of the case. Sure it won't help against some Kung Fu master, but since 95% of people can't fight, you're pretty much covered. Plus it's a great aerobic work out
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Old 04-19-2005, 07:49 PM   #7
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i agree with Tala. Aikido is the shit. You can REALLY fuck someone up and make them look like jackasses because they beat their own ass pretty much
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Old 04-19-2005, 07:54 PM   #8
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Find a school that teaches kickboxing and jujitsu and sign up for both. This will cover your standing game and ground game.. trust me... you'll need both.
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Old 04-19-2005, 07:54 PM   #9
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i found one site by this bouncer guy http://www.geoffthompson.com/ . if you want to know the secret techniques for destroying the tendons in your opponents hands, he's the guy.

i live in a really small town, and i just want to get away with as little drama as possible. no need to invite other shitheads to try me just because they heard i was a bad dude or something.
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Old 04-19-2005, 07:55 PM   #10
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It's not the style of martial art, its the practitioner's desire and persiverance! I studied Gosoku Ryu, (an offshoot of Shotokan) for ten years. But I believe a decently trained boxer could probably kick my ass!
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It's not the style of martial art, its the practitioner's desire and persiverance! I studied Gosoku Ryu, (an offshoot of Shotokan) for ten years. But I believe a decently trained boxer could probably kick my ass!
But then again, my training ended over 20 years ago. I did train at least 5 days a weeks, often twice a day. It was fun though.
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Old 04-19-2005, 08:07 PM   #13
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Aikido, but takes a long time to learn it good, more than any other art I think.
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the BEST bet is a great combination of styles, and takes more than a few years to really develop what will work best for you, i have been studying many styles since 1988, Hakko Ryu Jujutsu, Shorinji Kenpo, plus several other smaller 'americanized' styles and I have never had to prove myself outside of our weekly 'fight night' but and very confident that i very able to defend myself if necessary. best to learn as much as you can and then apply what works best for you
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Old 04-19-2005, 08:21 PM   #17
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yikes. it sounds like it would be easier just to stay home and spank my bologna to online porn.
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I know Hakko Ryu Jujutsu, Shorinji Kenpo and three other jap words.....
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Old 04-19-2005, 10:41 PM   #21
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wing chun for a real street fight against multiple assailants...
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Old 04-19-2005, 10:53 PM   #23
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Sorry Tala and everyone that thinks Aikido is good for self defense. It only looks that way in class with a non resisting opponent.

Brazillian Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai. It was mentioned before, stand up and ground. Both styles are 100 percent alive, meaning you train against a fully resisting opponent, which is more applicable to real life and not some guy who is taught ukemi, or learning how to fall when thrown in practice.
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first rule of a street fight: if you go to the ground, get up!
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these threads are always stupid.

if you are not going to devote a significant portion of your life to fighting... then there is no particular style that is going to help you at all. get a gun or taser gun or just dont be in bad places.

I get tired of all the "aikido is the best" crap. aikido is just a lame way to make women and worthless hippies feel empowered. nothing else. no matter what you think about aikido, the fact is that it takes a willing opponent to train. that is its greatest flaw. and if you think that learning a few arm locks and wrist locks are going to save your life one night in a dark alley against a guy whos adreneline and endorphines are pumping and will continue to spike further everytime you respond agressively, then you are deluding yourself... and lets all please, stop pretending that the laws of physics cease to exist because you studied Rex Kwon Do for a week and a 1/2. a 110-150 pound girl is going to destroyed by the average male no matter what she knows. she is smaller and weaker. laws of physics do apply when you are trying to hit someone twice your size with twice your strength. the only exceptions i have ever seen to this are women who have trained seriously for many many many years and have devoted their life to fighting arts who have unusual strength and focus.

Most importantly, you have to understand that you will never be better than the effort you devote to any particular fighting style. Are you going to give 110% for 5 years, 4-5 times a week to become good? or are you going to go to Tai Bo twice a week for 20 mins just so you can tell yourself you have never felt more confident?

My experience is that almost all women will suck no matter what they study, regardless of how long.... because quite simply, its unlikely that someone is going to be able to train you to snap and explode forward agressively with the intent to take someone out. woman have a hard time becoming violent and agressive. MOST women and usually at least 1/2 of men will never have that regardless of how hard they train. if you dont have the capability to be violent, agressive and really hurt people then don't waste your time. if you are deluding yourself by saying "yeah, well if someone is attacking me, i would not hesitate to..." then you better try to punch someone in the face or break their arm first just to see that it really isnt that easy... and certainly not easy when they are attacking you. hitting someone to knock them out or break something is not as easy as it seems... for anyone unless you are somewhat sadistic and cruel. are you?

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That's what fighting in all ranges mean.

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Old 04-20-2005, 08:40 PM   #27
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jiu jitsu is designed to defend yourself against opponents that are bigger and stronger than you. It is a good choice. Less striking, more taking enemy to the ground and injuring them enough to not fight/walk... Some of the techniques are quit simple as well.
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The best defense is say your sorry and walk away. As cool as the fantasy is to kick someones ass using some cool move and its over is nice but rarely what happens. They come back with bats, guns now your really fucked. I studied Kung Fu for 3 yrs and if my Sifu said it once he said it a thousand times walkaway.The best defense is to avoid,I bounced for over 15 yrs and came to blows only twice. Its easier to difuse then you think .

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nice 308 up top.. then whats below that a 223 or 243?... I got me about 15 times that many weopns but only carry one with me everywhere I go.. either in my ancle holster or small of my back and thats the H&K .40 cal myself.. would not trust anything smaller to stop a human being
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wow, all those for self defense... you must be in full battle gear.. ahihihihi..

i love martial arts... and I love jackie chan... he is so hilarious
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what bout judo? its all bout defence , like use your oponent power against him
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Lift some weights, take creatine, and get an intimidating upper body build. Also work on getting the right expression on your face when shits about to hit the fan. Image is everything! Most people get scared shitless when they are confronted by someone who looks like they have nothing to lose, or could possibly enjoy the fight regardless of the outcome!

Having said that, you should back up this badass image with BOXING and some type of wrestling, preferrably submission wrestling (no grabbing clothes). DONT go for any of the traditional martial arts as a general rule, unless they teach strickly scientific techniques. Stay away from anything DEFENSIVE like aikido. Start watching MMA like the PRIDE MIDDLEWEIGHT GP THIS WEEKEND!!!!
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Krav is a really cool art but almost any of them will help, If you want to really know something study Ba Gwa or bagwan/pakua. make sure they can teach the Qi Gong. you will basically become a jedi from this, you learn every form of fighting and how to master yourself.
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The best defense is say your sorry and walk away. As cool as the fantasy is to kick someones ass using some cool move and its over is nice but rarely what happens. They come back with bats, guns now your really fucked. I studied Kung Fu for 3 yrs and if my Sifu said it once he said it a thousand times walkaway.The best defense is to avoid,I bounced for over 15 yrs and came to blows only twice. Its easier to difuse then you think .
I totally agree I was a bouncer for a few years and only had a few altercations most people are pussies and if you talk to them and buy them a beer they will usually understand. Lets say you kick his ass whose to say that he's not thier with a bunch of friend? What about next time you go to the place and the person sees you and decides to get a gun and blow your brains out? Shit like that can happen i've seen it before.
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nice 308 up top.. then whats below that a 223 or 243?...
That's a politically correct Russian AK (7.62 x 39) with an illuminated Russian scope. Legal to hunt with.

As far as personal protection, I choose the 357 revolver for it's simplicity and reliability. If my life is on the line, I would rather trust a revolver over an auto any day.
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Bruce Lee created Jeet Kune Do by taking only the things that worked.
From all the different Martial Arts. Theirs videos you can buy or in most major cities you can find a place.
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Good fucking god, it's like the UFC never happened. There's no question on this subject, anyone who has a fucking tv knows the answer if they have half a brain and can process easily available information. They've had the bare handed fights. We know what works now AND what doesn't.

Jiu-Jitsu on the ground, Muay Thai standing up. That's IT.

Krav Maga is almost useless, Aikido is completely useless, Kung Fu and Pressure Point Fighting are running jokes among those who fight for a living.

Wrestling and boxing are very helpful, but they're both just weaker versions of BJJ and MT. Russian Sambo is good but good luck finding an instructor.
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From all the different Martial Arts. Theirs videos you can buy or in most major cities you can find a place.
yeah me too, I just took only what really works and gave it a name, it's Bernie Kune Do. Books and videos coming soon. I specialize in 'whacking people with chair legs'.
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That's a politically correct Russian AK (7.62 x 39) with an illuminated Russian scope. Legal to hunt with.

As far as personal protection, I choose the 357 revolver for it's simplicity and reliability. If my life is on the line, I would rather trust a revolver over an auto any day.
Shoot somebody, you go to prison. Defend yourself with your hands, you're a hero.
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If you are looking to attack, Kung Fu or Tae Kwan Do are pretty offense heavy styles, if you are just looking to protect yourself Aikido or Karate is a good choice.

If you are looking to sneak thru the shadows and thru little metal stars at people, the Ninjitsu is the way to go.

However, if you just want to generally scare the shit out of everyone who crosses your path, I recommend Glock-Foo...

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if you don't have it in you, nothing will help. maybe do boxing for a few years and you might do ok
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I get tired of all the "aikido is the best" crap. aikido is just a lame way to make women and worthless hippies feel empowered. nothing else. no matter what you think about aikido, the fact is that it takes a willing opponent to train. that is its greatest flaw
Dude, you don't have a clue about real aikido. Come train in my dojo; I can promise you it'll open your eyes.
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Old 04-21-2005, 03:54 AM   #49
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Aikido.

I love it. There's no offensive moves in it whatsoever. It's all defensive, and it's fun to watch an unsuspecting idiot fly.
I didn't know you did aikido, Tala. That's awesome. I will clarity that there *are* offensive moves in aikido, physically speaking, although we practice with a defensive philosophy. There are times the fight is imminent, and it's preferred to make the first physical move, although the fight has technically already begun, so it's still defensive in philosophy.
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Old 04-21-2005, 04:30 AM   #50
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