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Aly · 04-21-2005, 10:17 AM

AVN Online Story

Utah E-Porn Blocking Signed, Top Supporter Questioned Over Conflict
By: Charles Farrar
Posted: 9:00 am PDT 4-21-2005

SALT LAKE CITY - While Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, Jr., signed into law Utah's new mandate for the attorney general to list adult and other "harmful" websites and order Internet service providers to block them, a key supporter who joined him at the signing ceremony has raised conflict-of-interest questions.

The supporter is Citizens Against Pornography co-founder and ContentWatch chief executive Jack Sunderlage, who claims his business has not benefited since the new law was passed in the state legislature, but whose company may have sold its content-blocking software to at least one ISP after the legislative session ended.

The ISP in question, XMission, was said to have heard from a ContentWatch representative two weeks after that session finished, but XMission technology manager Grant Sperry told reporters the ISP already used its own filtering and never pursued any deal with ContentWatch, which offers partnerships to ISPs selling ContentWatch product to clients.

Sunderlage is said to have reviewed the law in draft before it was introduced in the legislature, as well as signing letters to the editor and joining Huntsman for the signing ceremony. And he denies he was trying to drum up business for ContentWatch while advocating strongly in public for the new law.

"I've seen the harmful effects of pornography," he told the Salt Lake Tribune. "I know how big the problem has become."

The law's chief author, state Rep. John Dougall (R-Highland), told the newspaper he sought Sunderlage's input after he began working on the original bill. "I don't see a conflict on that," he told the paper. "I was working on this before I ever ran into Jack."

The new Utah law is considered likely to face a constitutional challenge similar to that faced by a now-defunct Pennsylvania law that was similar to Utah's. The American Civil Liberties Union is considering litigation to thwart the law, with director Dani Eyer telling the Tribune that Sunderlage's position should be enough to alarm people about hidden agendas by those backing that particular law.

Sunderlage also said Utah ISPs won't have to buy software packages like ContentWatch's package if they comply with the new law. "I was arguing against what our company and our product does," he told the paper. "If the ISPs were doing their job[s], people would be less likely to buy our product."

ContentWatch is said to be preparing an educational DVD, "Pornography: The Great Lie," to sell at Deseret Books, owned by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

Sunderlage's influence extends to Utah's information-technology industry as a whole. He chairs the Utah Information Technology Association, which named him chairman in March. The group said in appointing him that he "has played and will continue to play an integral role in the advancement of critical high-tech and community legislation in our state. We ? will continue to benefit tremendously from the work and talent Jack Sunderlage brings."

Pennsylvania's Net blocking law was struck down in federal court last September, with a judge ruling the law ? aimed at trying to curtail child porn ? was ineffective at blocking child porn but too effective in blocking more than a million websites without any sexual content.

jimmyf · 04-21-2005, 10:24 AM

Verio has a lot of there Tech. support in Utah, when ever I have 2 call them, the 1st thing they ask is you're domain name, i give'm my account number.

tony286 · 04-21-2005, 10:33 AM

wait you people who support .xxx said that could never happen hmmm

J$tyle$ · 04-21-2005, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

wait you people who support .xxx said that could never happen hmmm

The "establishment" regardless of country, state or city will always be gunning for porn ... ALWAYS!

Here's two key paragraphs though that you should keep in mind ...

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The new Utah law is considered likely to face a constitutional challenge similar to that faced by a now-defunct Pennsylvania law that was similar to Utah's. The American Civil Liberties Union is considering litigation to thwart the law, with director Dani Eyer telling the Tribune that Sunderlage's position should be enough to alarm people about hidden agendas by those backing that particular law.

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Pennsylvania's Net blocking law was struck down in federal court last September, with a judge ruling the law ? aimed at trying to curtail child porn ? was ineffective at blocking child porn but too effective in blocking more than a million websites without any sexual content.

The one thing I think most people always miss when trashing/negating .XXX as a viable alternative - is one simple fact ... when or IF an ISP decides to block the TLD - it creates an opportunity for another ISP to say "Come to US! We will NEVER BLOCK content that is Constitutionally legal!"

There are other positive things that could result from .XXX but let the FLAMES begin!

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Aly · 04-21-2005, 11:52 AM

Well put, J$tyle$...!

Now, if this passes intact through a federal court... well, that'll be dodgy.

Bad Big Brother! ... Bad! Bad!

We'll see...

AdultInsider Cloner · 04-21-2005, 11:58 AM

I used to live in Utah, this law will never last.

Quickdraw · 04-21-2005, 12:25 PM

Growth of Internet over the years (US)
http://www.nua.ie/surveys/how_many_o...n_america.html

Crime stats by year
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance.htm
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/cv2.htm

Quote:

Quotes from the government stats.

Serious violent crime levels declined since 1993.
Violent crime rates declined for both males and females since 1994.
Rates for males and females have been getting closer in recent years.
Firearm-related crime has plummeted since 1993.

I see an interesting timing of events between active internet users and the decline of crime.

Some might attribute the increased level of incarceration to be a dominant factor in these crime trends declining.
I am not so sure that is all there is to the decline. The numbers don't seem to jive for me.

"Porn soothes the savage beast"?

Well, I guess at the very least the 'bad guys' can be entertained at home.

Utard is full of hypocritical religious nuts and bad drivers, I lived there for too long. There really is no line between church and state there.

04-21-2005, 10:17 AM	#1
Aly President, ePufferProfits Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,881	No more Porn for Utah...? AVN Online Story Utah E-Porn Blocking Signed, Top Supporter Questioned Over Conflict By: Charles Farrar Posted: 9:00 am PDT 4-21-2005 SALT LAKE CITY - While Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, Jr., signed into law Utah's new mandate for the attorney general to list adult and other "harmful" websites and order Internet service providers to block them, a key supporter who joined him at the signing ceremony has raised conflict-of-interest questions. The supporter is Citizens Against Pornography co-founder and ContentWatch chief executive Jack Sunderlage, who claims his business has not benefited since the new law was passed in the state legislature, but whose company may have sold its content-blocking software to at least one ISP after the legislative session ended. The ISP in question, XMission, was said to have heard from a ContentWatch representative two weeks after that session finished, but XMission technology manager Grant Sperry told reporters the ISP already used its own filtering and never pursued any deal with ContentWatch, which offers partnerships to ISPs selling ContentWatch product to clients. Sunderlage is said to have reviewed the law in draft before it was introduced in the legislature, as well as signing letters to the editor and joining Huntsman for the signing ceremony. And he denies he was trying to drum up business for ContentWatch while advocating strongly in public for the new law. "I've seen the harmful effects of pornography," he told the Salt Lake Tribune. "I know how big the problem has become." The law's chief author, state Rep. John Dougall (R-Highland), told the newspaper he sought Sunderlage's input after he began working on the original bill. "I don't see a conflict on that," he told the paper. "I was working on this before I ever ran into Jack." The new Utah law is considered likely to face a constitutional challenge similar to that faced by a now-defunct Pennsylvania law that was similar to Utah's. The American Civil Liberties Union is considering litigation to thwart the law, with director Dani Eyer telling the Tribune that Sunderlage's position should be enough to alarm people about hidden agendas by those backing that particular law. Sunderlage also said Utah ISPs won't have to buy software packages like ContentWatch's package if they comply with the new law. "I was arguing against what our company and our product does," he told the paper. "If the ISPs were doing their job[s], people would be less likely to buy our product." ContentWatch is said to be preparing an educational DVD, "Pornography: The Great Lie," to sell at Deseret Books, owned by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Sunderlage's influence extends to Utah's information-technology industry as a whole. He chairs the Utah Information Technology Association, which named him chairman in March. The group said in appointing him that he "has played and will continue to play an integral role in the advancement of critical high-tech and community legislation in our state. We ? will continue to benefit tremendously from the work and talent Jack Sunderlage brings." Pennsylvania's Net blocking law was struck down in federal court last September, with a judge ruling the law ? aimed at trying to curtail child porn ? was ineffective at blocking child porn but too effective in blocking more than a million websites without any sexual content. __________________ . . Aly's ICQ: 51504163 . Aly's Email: [email protected]

04-21-2005, 10:24 AM	#2
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04-21-2005, 11:52 AM	#5
Aly President, ePufferProfits Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,881	Well put, J$tyle$...! Now, if this passes intact through a federal court... well, that'll be dodgy. Bad Big Brother! ... Bad! Bad! We'll see... __________________ . . Aly's ICQ: 51504163 . Aly's Email: [email protected]

04-21-2005, 11:58 AM	#6
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04-21-2005, 10:33 AM	#3
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	wait you people who support .xxx said that could never happen hmmm