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Old 04-20-2005, 07:44 AM   #1
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:stop New Advancedsubmitter Database Updates Service!!

Hello fellow webmasters,

Some might already know me and my Databases from other boards/threads, and I'm proud to announce that I've partnered up with the Team at Advancedsubmitter to work on their NEW Database Updates Service.

We've redesigned the entire Area at http://updates.advancedsubmitter.com to fit our new needs during the last weeks, so I apologize if that might have caused any problems.

The new TGP and MGP Databases contain ~4000 Sites each, or ~6000 together, so you'll be amazed about the traffic they can generate. They also optimized for Advancedsubmitter 4.0 and 4.1, support OCR, ALL different sizes of Preview Thumbnails, 2257 Info, Partner Accounts, Keywords etc. etc., so please take a look at the Pages below for more details:

TGP-Database Details

MGP-Database Details

We're also giving a 50% discount on these Databases for all members of the previous Database Updates Service, they would just need to login to the previous Members Area for more Info about that.

I'm also always happy to answer any questions, so feel free to ask them here, or it me up on ICQ 344688791 or at updates(at)adultsponsortest.com, I'm always around between 8am-8pm GMT+1

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Old 04-20-2005, 07:45 AM   #2
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Looks great.

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Old 04-20-2005, 07:50 AM   #3
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Looks great.

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Thx, I think all my previous Clients that bought Databases through AdultSponsorTest.com from me already know that I'm doing my very best to deliver the best possible product, so together with the Team at Advancedsubmitter everything should have a great outcome

Obviously I'll also continue my work on Databases for other Submitters, so stay tuned about these too!
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Old 04-20-2005, 08:02 AM   #4
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Thanks to hjnet for helping us with the db updates.

Just to add another "news" here. The new version of AdvancedSubmitter, that will be released during May will integrate database updating functionality that will allow registered members of database updating service to autoupdate their database through the programs interface.
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Old 04-20-2005, 09:54 AM   #5
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Thanks to hjnet for helping us with the db updates.

Just to add another "news" here. The new version of AdvancedSubmitter, that will be released during May will integrate database updating functionality that will allow registered members of database updating service to autoupdate their database through the programs interface.
Thx, I've forgotten to mention the new features Advancedsubmitter will offer, that will make keeping the Databases up-to-date a lot easier.
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Old 04-20-2005, 10:02 AM   #6
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bump for a first class operation
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Old 04-21-2005, 02:02 AM   #7
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Thx, I'll be around for the next 11 hours, so if anybody has questions, hit me up on ICQ 344688791
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Old 04-21-2005, 03:17 AM   #8
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Looks good, can you accept payments via epassporte?
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Old 04-21-2005, 03:40 AM   #9
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looking good, I just might have to buy advanced submitter
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Old 04-21-2005, 03:42 AM   #10
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Looks good, can you accept payments via epassporte?
Yes, the guys from FlashCash just made an Account for me yesterday.
Hit me up on ICQ 344688791 for more details, I'll add the payment Portal for epassporte within the next few days to the DB pages
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Old 04-21-2005, 03:45 AM   #11
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now thats bullshit, when i first bought advancedsubmitter i bought the database service, It was only updated 2 times in almost 8 months and now i have to pay %50 of the reg price on the service to get the new database? Thats bullshit, Because the old database wont be updated no more because of the new database, Give your old customers that bought the database service access to the new database..
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Old 04-21-2005, 04:04 AM   #12
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wow, that is cool. thanks for the information!
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Old 04-21-2005, 04:23 AM   #13
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why would anyone pay that for a shit list.

4000 sites? lol

4000 mgps actually exist?

must be crap. because there are only maybe 100 good converting ones.

stop adding useless sites that wont convert

and stop conning people into buying your database. like the one guy you told he would make 2000$ in the first month
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Old 04-21-2005, 04:53 AM   #14
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now thats bullshit, when i first bought advancedsubmitter i bought the database service, It was only updated 2 times in almost 8 months and now i have to pay %50 of the reg price on the service to get the new database? Thats bullshit, Because the old database wont be updated no more because of the new database, Give your old customers that bought the database service access to the new database..

The previous Database Service wasn't run by me, I've just sold my own Databases at http://adultsponsortest.com/advancedsubmitter.htm, and since my forerunner at the Database Updates Service (Guitariff) had to end his work due to some personal problems I'm offering my Databases now through Advancedsubmitters website.
And as an "excuse" for happenings I had no influence on I'm giving all previous members a 50% discount, so that's $50 for the old membership, which is still working, plus $75 for the new Database, which is still cheaper than $150 all non-members would have to pay.
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Old 04-21-2005, 05:10 AM   #15
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why would anyone pay that for a shit list.

4000 sites? lol

4000 mgps actually exist?

must be crap. because there are only maybe 100 good converting ones.

stop adding useless sites that wont convert

and stop conning people into buying your database. like the one guy you told he would make 2000$ in the first month
It's 4213 MGPs, and you can count them one by one if you want

And as you can see at http://adultsponsortest.com/advanced...P_database.htm I'm making no secret out of it that ~2000 of them are either dead (MGP_Dead) or Fake (MGP_Fake) or accept only submissions from partners 8MGP_Partner), or have some slow loading submission Pages 8MGP_Lamers) etc.etc.
But adding these Sites is neccessary to give those people that want to build their own Databases out of mine some kind of blacklist to import their Site lists in bulk, to save them some time and to avoid that they have to sort through the same Sites as I already did, so I'll continue to add sites if it's not too much of a problem for you.

Additionally I've never told someone that he'll make $2000 within the first month, I'm telling everybody the same, that it takes lot's of experience and time to get reasonable results, at least 2-3 months. But for a hard working submitter it's possible to get ~30k per day (~$1000 per month) within the first month, if he already has some semi decent galleries and some experience.
And from there on it takes it's time to achive enough partner Accounts and fine-tune the galleries, but that's something everybody has to walk through, and these Databases are the best chance for a honest submitter to get started and built something up.
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Old 04-21-2005, 06:18 AM   #16
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The three most popular pay/subscription submission scripts right now are probably:

Chameleon = $20 per month / $149 per year (+$29 for mail responder)
Advanced Submitter = $248 (script + database: not sure how often database is updated or the cost - if any - of updates)
Dream Submitter = $35 per month (equivalent to $420 a year)

They all do the same job and they all apparently do it well. They all have extensive databases which are relatively easy to customize. Is the very significant price differential simply a case of each author charging whatever he thinks he can get away with, or are there objective justifications - from the user's point of view - for the price range?
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Old 04-21-2005, 06:48 AM   #17
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The three most popular pay/subscription submission scripts right now are probably:

Chameleon = $20 per month / $149 per year (+$29 for mail responder)
Advanced Submitter = $248 (script + database: not sure how often database is updated or the cost - if any - of updates)
Dream Submitter = $35 per month (equivalent to $420 a year)

They all do the same job and they all apparently do it well. They all have extensive databases which are relatively easy to customize. Is the very significant price differential simply a case of each author charging whatever he thinks he can get away with, or are there objective justifications - from the user's point of view - for the price range?

They do only basically the same Job,
Dreamsubmitter offers for sure the most features, and is a great tool for people that heavily work with Payed Gallery Spots because of that, but therefore you'd have to invest some time and learn everything, and therefore it also costs some money. And it can be used for LinkLists, LinkDumps etc. too

Chameleonsubmitter is a great tool for beginners (IMHO), it's very easy to handle because most of the difficult work is handled by others (Database Updates), but therefore you'll reach it's limits rather soon, and it doesn't have as much features as some people might wanna have.

And Advancedsubmitter is somewhere in between them, it's rather easy to work with, the DBs are updated frequently (and more often when I'm finished with the LinkList and LinkDump DB) and it can also be used as I said for everything with a form, LinkDumps, LinkLists, Directories, Boards, SearchEngines, etc.etc. And it's also used by many professional Submitters to handle their bought Gallery Spots and Partner Accounts.

So each submitter has it's advantages, and the more feature-rich a program is the more expensive it becomes, cause it also targets a "more wealthy" group of buyers. None of them is "the best", it's only a matter of what you want, and how experienced you are.
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Old 04-21-2005, 07:15 AM   #18
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Chameleonsubmitter is a great tool for beginners (IMHO), it's very easy to handle because most of the difficult work is handled by others (Database Updates), but therefore you'll reach it's limits rather soon...
Thanks for the response. If I read you correctly, both of the more expensive scripts are likely to justify their extra cost mainly if you are doing something other than straightfoward submissions to M/TGP's? The only comment which suggests otherwise is the one I have quoted, which I don't really understand.

I used TGSW when I started submitting, since that was all there was at the time. But it became impossible once there were constant changes and dozens of new sites every week. The update service was okay for maybe a year, then I just gave up on auto-submissions and switched to GASS. Combined with Roboform, GASS handles manual submissions very easily and at $45 it's a bargain.

Then, maybe 2 years ago I started using Chameleon because with its frequent updates, it was again practical to hit the hundreds of small TGP's that don't justify manual submissions. I have the database customized for patner accounts (and could do so for paid spots too) and there are usually 2 or 3 updates a week to take care of the rest. At least in terms of submissions to M/TGP's I'm not aware of the limits to which you refer, although yes, Chameleon doesn't handle links lists, dumps, etc.
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Old 04-21-2005, 07:38 AM   #19
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Thanks for the response. If I read you correctly, both of the more expensive scripts are likely to justify their extra cost mainly if you are doing something other than straightfoward submissions to M/TGP's? The only comment which suggests otherwise is the one I have quoted, which I don't really understand.

I used TGSW when I started submitting, since that was all there was at the time. But it became impossible once there were constant changes and dozens of new sites every week. The update service was okay for maybe a year, then I just gave up on auto-submissions and switched to GASS. Combined with Roboform, GASS handles manual submissions very easily and at $45 it's a bargain.

Then, maybe 2 years ago I started using Chameleon because with its frequent updates, it was again practical to hit the hundreds of small TGP's that don't justify manual submissions. I have the database customized for patner accounts (and could do so for paid spots too) and there are usually 2 or 3 updates a week to take care of the rest. At least in terms of submissions to M/TGP's I'm not aware of the limits to which you refer, although yes, Chameleon doesn't handle links lists, dumps, etc.
I mean limits traffic wise, with Chameleon you're submitting to exactly the same Sites, with exactly the same Settings (right or wrong) together with at least 1000 other submitters, which doesn't make it easier to get listed. And many many newbies are using Chameleon, because they would like to get rich quick. So you have the problem that all of these Sites get flooded with Galleries that have exactly the same style (Recips etc.), so that again doesn't make it easier to get listed, and even I can tell you when a submission comes from Chameleon or f.e. Russiansubmitter.
It's true that you could avoid these problems by making your own costumized Database for Chameleon, but that would be like inventing the wheel a second time.
Again, Chameleon is a great tool for what it's made for (autosubmission and a maintained DB), but for costumized Databases, handsubmission, partner Accounts, paid Spots there are better ones.
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Is it possible to blend your new database with my current advanced submitter database?

I dont want to have to re-do all my changes with usernames and passwords on my private submission accounts.
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Old 04-21-2005, 07:46 AM   #21
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typeo "Please dorp me an email"

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Is it possible to blend your new database with my current advanced submitter database?

I dont want to have to re-do all my changes with usernames and passwords on my private submission accounts.
I'm using just the simple Domain names (f.e. madthumbs.com) as the TGP_Name Value, so if you're doing the same there can't be any duplicate entries, which makes it rather easy to merge the DBs. You'd just have to import my Sites.dat file into your Database, then all of my Sites that aren't already in your will be added, and the same goes for the site specific Rules and generic Rules. And if you backup your TGP.mdb before nothing can go wrong.
Obviously I'm gonna help you with the merge through ICQ if you want, but it's not too complicated, I have to do that everytime when I release a new update
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Old 04-21-2005, 10:58 AM   #24
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looking good, I just might have to buy advanced submitter
I've also just recently made a new small Database for the Trial and the Stock Version of Advancedsubmitter. So you might wanna try the Free Trial out, and drop me an email at webmaster(at)adultsponsortest.com, so I can send you the new Trial DB.
It's just a pre-release Version, but it should be ok normalwise
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dont buy from this gimp. there are not over 4000 mgps. with decent traffic. head over to thinkreel and talk to the real mgp people. this guy is a joke. trying to profit from it.
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dont buy from this gimp. there are not over 4000 mgps. with decent traffic. head over to thinkreel and talk to the real mgp people. this guy is a joke. trying to profit from it.
Why shit in his thread? This isnt the first time he posted his services on GFY or any other board. Every thread he started to offer his services had no complaints. Why even start controversy when you have not even used his services yourself? He already stated that about 2k of them are dead/problems. That info is even on his site and he explains why they are included.
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hjnet gave me an updated list of his database, i looked over it, and i gave him my own hand submitted database. i added a couple of his sites to my database, so it was good for me in the long run

his database is good for beginners.

hopefully he can incorporate my custom database into the next version.

i would recommend hjnet to anyone, because mine is mostly teen, and his database is a mix, and with his you can seperate it by the pull down menu. which is a very cool option.

good job hjnet, glad we had this long talk on icq. and sorted this out.

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Old 05-03-2005, 08:36 AM   #28
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hjnet gave me an updated list of his database, i looked over it, and i gave him my own hand submitted database. i added a couple of his sites to my database, so it was good for me in the long run

his database is good for beginners.

hopefully he can incorporate my custom database into the next version.

i would recommend hjnet to anyone, because mine is mostly teen, and his database is a mix, and with his you can seperate it by the pull down menu. which is a very cool option.

good job hjnet, glad we had this long talk on icq. and sorted this out.


Thx fris, I'll look through your list for the next Database update.
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How does this affect people who have already bought your databases in the past? Do we have to pay again to get the new updated ones (I thought you promised free updates)...
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How does this affect people who have already bought your databases in the past? Do we have to pay again to get the new updated ones (I thought you promised free updates)...
No, all people that bought ANY Databases from me at ANY Time get free updates as long as I'm able to provide updates.

I previously sold my Databases through AdultSponsorTest.com, and Guitariff run the Database updates Service at Advancedsubmitter. A few months ago he ran into some personal Problems, so he had to quit his work there in Nov 2004 and I partnered up with Advancedsubmitter to continue his work.

So nothing changes for MY Clients, the only thing that changed is that I sell my Databases now through http://updates.advancedsubmitter.com instead of adultsponsortest.com
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Sorry again if that change caused any misunderstandings...
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