50..........

I got a few minute extension...They are going to come pick me up instead of me leaving to go over there.

Now I have more time to spend here. :pimp

Everyone makes mistakes. They keep making mistakes until somebody teaches them a lesson. Who's going to teach him that lesson if Aaron doesn't? The next poor soul that tries giving the kid a break?

When there's this much drama surrounding one person in such a short amount of time, 95% of the time it means they brought everything on to themselves.

Aaron the only thing I can suggest is get over the drama. Let it go, settle up with this kid and forget about it.
You and I are not in the best of shape to be stressing out over such details..it's bad for our chubby little hearts.

CDN vs USD

The fact that you have to ask GFY what to do in this situation doesn't make you look any better. Pick one of your options and run with it and keep it to yourself. As for sonofsam, sometimes it's better to just shut your mouth (especially on the boards). You should have scraped up the money and just apologized to Aaron for the hassle and paid him (awhile ago).

I hope you two can finish this ordeal and I wish you both the best, -g

And well worth reading too. :thumbsup

i'm sure this whole experience has already taught him a lesson. If not, then I'll go back to combing my tit hair.

The voice or reason speaks. :thumbsup

No offense meant to you...BUT...After a comment you made in yesterday's thread, it's clear to me that you have suggested something to him about how to use the content. The way you worded that comment concerns me and for that reason, I don't trust you either.

So....Play as nice as you like in this thread but at the end of the day, as level headed as your words may appear from the surface, you and I both know that they are most likely compromised by your own interests...Whatever those may be.

Stuart. I agree with your statement that sonofsam is not one who is intentionally trying to hurt anyone, that he has made some very poor choices, both monetarily and verbally.

No decision goes without consequence; so, this is what I propose.

1. Aaron. You forgive the money and issue the license, based on these conditions.

a. Sonofsam stfu. First and foremost, truly, with wine in my body because of you and sincerity in my heart, I am begging you now. Shut up. When you say things like ' the only reason I did this was 'cause you did that'...well...that's not very business like..and shows just how much you have to learn. So, free advice, because I, too, am rather expensive. STFU.
Really. It's for your own good.

b. Retracts any statement that you deemed disrespectful on a personal and business level, in public on the board or boards of your choice.
c. If he keeps this up, go with number 5.

Can he (sonofsam) be trusted to abide by that agreement?

Wouldnt kiss you on the lips and you are rough as hell on the edges BUT you do not fuck people over, you have great content, you cross your T's and dot your I's.

For sure a dickwad posting false things about you can hurt you.

Nail him to the wall buddy!

I never asked people to tell me what to do. I asked people why I should allow him to piss in my face and then continue to help him.

I haven't arrived at the same conclusion

I would think that the other 2 experiences he faced over the last month or so would have done that.

Don't scratch your nipple with the comb.

Last I checked you needed to have the proper doc's to use this type of material on the internet. Is it safe to say if he doesn't get the doc's the content is useless to him??....................Pay the man.

I haven't either. Not after yesterday and today.

You guys don't see the icqs flying back and forth between this kid, sorry, sonofsam, but you remind me of a kid.....

If there is an opinion on this board that I value...It's Raven's.

Not that I agree or am going to go with her advice...But it does hold a lot of weight with me and I will consider this while out and about.

Speaking of which...I have to go, my ride is due here any minute now....

I'm really sorry you feel that way but I don't give a flying rats ass if you trust me or not. I have no interests in the matter and it doesn't affect me one bit if you don't trust me as I have nothing to gain nor lose whether or not he is allowed to use the content or not. it's his affairs, I'm just trying to help get this guy out of a big mess as I consider him an acquaintance.

If you must know I suggested he use the content once paid for in a premium AVS site. That's it, that's all :) Nothing maliscious whatsoever.

Honnestly? I don't know. He still hasen't even aswered on that one.

Are you telling me that Sononfsam isn't a fake nick? Naah, can't be.

A lot of the damage to your rep was done by you by the way you acted. This was over and done with as far as the board was concerned until you brought it back up today. No one else posted a thread to rehash this. Maybe you like to punish yourself.

You have made it clear on what has happend. Unless he shows some kind of proof to his story (which I have yet to see) then I dont see your rep being damaged.

As for what to do. Each one has its own way of making you satisfied. But which will make you happy in the end?

I simply cannot believe that this continues.

Sonofsam.

You have fucked up more ways than even I can count.

Not only that, your actions have driven me to drink.

You keep digging a deeper hole and your desperate attempts to sway people's opinions to your side are truly pathetic.

Look. Let us remember a few facts.

1. You saw the breakdown of the content, just as I did. Bulk content is what it is. As Donovan said, as Aaron said, as many have said... you get the good, the bad, the ugly......so what? It's a bulk deal. Bulk. Before you make a bulk purchase, it would have behooved you to educate yourself on what a bulk package is.

2. You paid for this content in Canadian money. Wrong. Totally wrong.

3. You whined about being over extended. You asked for a refund, not because you didn't like the content; but, because you were overextended. Your comments about not liking the content came AFTER , not before.

4. You whined about Aaron not sending the content, even after he explained about US/Canadian Customs. You got the content, didn't you?

5. He put you on ignore and I don't blame him. It lasted from the night until the next day. He has had to deal with you every day for long enough.

6. You aren't learning anything from this. If you had, you would have acted in a professional manner....which, as of yet, you have not.

So.

I'm now opting for whatever Aaron can think up....because, at some point, you will have to learn something....or pick something else to do to generate revenue.

May I suggest that you STFU? For real now.

Raven - for once I have to disagree with you. Go back over yesterday's thread and you will see an interesting pattern in his posts.

He is a natural born manipulator - look at how many times he tries to portray himself as a poor struggling little newbie being screwed to death by a big time content provider - just count the number of times he says that Aaron is going to sue him and you will see what I mean.

Personally I think Aaron should wait till he pays the balance - give him the licences and then walk away. The kid is burning so many bridges that he won't even be remembered in 6 months.

:2 cents:

IMHO, I would prefer to settle the outstanding balance, turn over the materials, agree to disagree and part ways. It's been my experience that karma will always take care of the rest. :2 cents:

Read the bold.

Sam: let it go. it's not worth the anxiety and impending stroke.

Tell him how many sets he can have for $4500, let him choose that many sets from the content he has (that way he can say he is happy with the content as well), and send him the docs for those sets.

Then walk away with your head held high.

I'd go for the fifth option man. Go get 'em and learn from it.

do you know the full story?

anyone that wants to talk about this can call my cell phone and talk to me... i'd gladly explain it to anyone... i have nothing to hide...

the thing that pisses me off the most is not even the content or the money, its the fact that i'm being made to look like i don't appreciate someone helping me... however... aaronM other then selling me a content package which contains mostly stuff i didn't want... is not helping me..

you think i am being unjust here? icq me.. get my cell number and talk to me.... instead of not even knowing the story and saying OPTION 5 OPTION 5 because you know aaron.


EDIT: you will also remain anonymous unless you yourself choose to post about the conversation...

Swallow your pride and go with number 1 please. Either that or just give the kid a refund.

This is still going on? Aaron, how about you get money, and then bring down the options to 2.

1. Give him documents...

2. Keep the money call it a day.

All the dumbasses posting "#5 show him who's boss" posts can stfu and get a clue as to whats going on.

Get the facts then spout off at the mouth (or keyboard).

First off, Steve, I'm actually in shock that Marie would ALLOW you to disagree with me.

And, now that we have THAT out of the way, ya know? I think you're right.
Most kids are manipulative.....I looked at yesterday's thread....just because you said so!! I got to talk to ms. busy marie today.....first time in forever!!

Raven , you seem to work for Aaron.. why don't you call me and talk to me about it? you seem to have a really strong opinion.. so why not hear my side properly instead of over the keyboard?

Ok, sonof sam.....email your cell phone to me and I'll talk to you. I already know Aaron's side and I promise not to take sides. I'll listen to what you have to say.

raven at sin - text dot com.

Oh, and, for the record, AngelDollarsAndy? I do know what's going on.....so my stfu's are actually advice for sonofsam....with sincerity.

I do not work for Aaron.

But, I have been known to conduct some executive interventions. This may well be one of them.

Cell number has been sent.

like i said before

sonofadouchebag obviously is one of these assholes that doesnt listen to reason and doesnt get the message till the hammer comes down hard

hopefully aaron will just use a roofing hammer

i would use a pile driver

No one's going to walk away from this one as neither person seems willing to compromise anymore..

Better solution... Send the kid final docs/license for $4500 worth of content that he's paid for and be done with it... he doesn't owe anymore, he gets some content and you can wash your hands of the thing and not have to deal with him anymore. This could be finished with in a couple hours.

with a post like that, i don't really value your opinion.

Sam would you be happy with this? - It seems to be a way so everyone wins

of course i would , so long as i can choose which sets i want because so much of it is Goth / BBW / older girls

and that it say at the same rate that 4500 US / 750 sets.


its not my ideal outcome obviously, but i would accept that.

I'd personally make him give me the money and then make him use my Custodian of Records info on his sites. I'd keep the 2257 info myself. Who knows what some 18 year old with a track record of revealing info that's supposed to be kept private would do with model release that lists a models real name, number, and address.

Don't send him the releases. Make him list you as the "custodian of records".

I would, however, give him the license AFTER he paid.

He gave you a better deal than he's given others.. On top of that, I suspect it will be some additional work to do the paperwork for less than a full package deal... After this hassle, I think you should be willing to accept a bit worse deal and walk away from this before you get fucked even more.. I figure 450 sets is more than reasonable for the money you've paid and the stupidity you've shown..

And no.. I am FAR from an AaronM fan...

I sonofsam even real? The guy is so entertaining I'm starting to think he may be a character used by board elite for promotion. :2 cents:

no i'm a troll :2 cents: