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Rich 04-18-2005 01:33 PM

Who's taking side bets?

Assuming this is going to actually happen, which it most likely isn't.

Juicy D. Links 04-18-2005 01:34 PM

I am getting WOOD now at this fight

Juicy D. Links 04-18-2005 01:36 PM

56k!!!!!!!!!!!

eroswebmaster 04-18-2005 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrIzzz
i dont give a shit if bruce lee himself trained DD, lol, aint no way kimbo is going down!

on the other hand, anthony in top shape against kimbo....now that would be a cool showdown

There's a reason Kimbo doesn't want the fight to go to the ground..and in his other fight his guys complained of knees and chokes...because the guy is a brawler..that's it.
He has power and with one punch could put anyone's lights out...but if a true BJJ fighter is able to use all of his weapons like the ones mentioned above Kimbo's chances are not slim...but they sure are not completely in his favor anymore.
Also if you look at the video of the indoor fight..you can see he's easily winded even just punching. Don't know if you have ever fought for sport...I did when I trained in JuiJitsu back when I wasn't morbidly obese...LOL..but keeping your arms up like that after awhile they start to weigh a ton.
Anyway...if it really does happen..and I don't know why anyone would want to do it...it will be interesting to watch.

Jizar II 04-18-2005 01:38 PM

fake drama :throwup

shermo 04-18-2005 01:38 PM

I wonder if this will materialize... :error

Roald 04-18-2005 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links
56k!!!!!!!!!!!

you whore!

;)))

eroswebmaster 04-18-2005 01:41 PM

Now that I've read the entire thread I've seen anthony's response about Kimbo training in grappling...that does step his game up quite a bit.

jonesy 04-18-2005 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony
Last I saw Kimbo funny enough was in the Vip of China White. I asked him if he was training with the Avellans, his answer was, "Yeah I go down and take some classes." Nothing more or less.

Very laid back guy, not the beast everyone has been fed in the trailers and fights on the internet. Dare I say, a nice guy?

I still wouldn't fuck with him. He never smiled once the whole night, and had a look that just said, I will make you my bitch if you fuck with me.


hmmm "taking classes" :1orglaugh wonder if hes on a regular training schedule. he prob didnt fess up for the right reasons

ive known and hung with a few street fighters ect and would have to say most were nice guys and some were assholes but like you said you get the vibe that theyre not the types to be fucked with

Dalai lama 04-18-2005 01:45 PM

This will be good

DavieVegas 04-18-2005 01:50 PM

my head hurts from all of this

Kevsh 04-18-2005 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony
This has been said before by me, but bears repearting.

Kimbo has been training at the FFA in Miami with the Avellans. The Avellan Brothers are some of the best grapplers and trainers in Florida.

Do not use Bob Sapp as an example. One, he is bigger than Kimbo. Two, he fought the best Heavyweight BJJ fighter on the planet. There is no comparison. Sapp over 100 lbs heavier than Kimbo. Noguiera, the pride of BJJ, Danza, no one has heard of. Get the point?

The size disparity between Kimbo and DS is too great. DS will lose.

First, I respect your opinion but was merely showing an example - there are many, many more of "big guys" being owned by much smaller opponents. I don't know Danza from a hole in the ground so I should have avoided making any statements about his chances - instead sticking to a general idea on how Kimbo is beatable.

However, the size disparity can be removed on the ground. A good grappler who has "ground strength" can manipulate a much bigger foe who is not trained. You say Kimbo is training, but how much? How serious is he? How long? If it's only been a few months, he's far, far behind someone with years of experience.

As well, has he had any serious non-brawling fights?

Simpy put, there are too many questions about both fighters for anyone here to make such predictions like "he will lose". If you know Danza and you've seen Kimbo training or something recently, then fine, but guys laying money on 2 virtual unknowns (again, only 2 videotaped Kimbo fights doesn't show enough) is crazy.

Juicy D. Links 04-18-2005 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuaShe
you whore!

;)))

you get me email? :pimp

Kicker 04-18-2005 01:58 PM

Kimbo rocks!!!

Anthony 04-18-2005 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh
First, I respect your opinion but was merely showing an example - there are many, many more of "big guys" being owned by much smaller opponents. I don't know Danza from a hole in the ground so I should have avoided making any statements about his chances - instead sticking to a general idea on how Kimbo is beatable.

However, the size disparity can be removed on the ground. A good grappler who has "ground strength" can manipulate a much bigger foe who is not trained. You say Kimbo is training, but how much? How serious is he? How long? If it's only been a few months, he's far, far behind someone with years of experience.

As well, has he had any serious non-brawling fights?

Simpy put, there are too many questions about both fighters for anyone here to make such predictions like "he will lose". If you know Danza and you've seen Kimbo training or something recently, then fine, but guys laying money on 2 virtual unknowns (again, only 2 videotaped Kimbo fights doesn't show enough) is crazy.

Kevsh,

Thank you for a well thought out response. At this time, I can only go with what information that is in front of me. Which is Kimbo can strike, and is working on his ground game. Teach that man how to Sprawl and Brawl, and that's trouble!

Sean Gannon, Kimbo's last opponent is an active MMA fighter. Golden Gloves Champion. He wasn't favored to win, but he did. Repeatedly during that fight. Calling that fight and saying one or the other is going to win would be folly. But people did anyway.

Let's fast forward to now and DD and Kimbo. There has been no proof that DD is a 3rd BB in BJJ. He's a virtual unknown with no tournament, ring, or cage fights. Hell, I've fought in 2 tournaments, and you can find video of me getting 2nd place in each one, how come we can't of a 7 year plus Brazillian Black Belt? Alledgely.

We do know that Kimbo can hit.

We do know that Kimbo is activelytraining.

We do know that DD hasn't trained in some time.

We do know that DD has sidestepped the BJJ BB question forever.

Where do you think I"m going put my money on?

Cheers.

Evil Jawa 04-18-2005 02:05 PM

Where is Danza ?

DomBuyer 04-18-2005 02:07 PM

If this isn't the biggest setup to a fix, I don't know what is...

BradShaw 04-18-2005 02:10 PM

I have $100k on kimbo, and I do not even know whot he hell he is.

DD, you going to take me up?

BlueDesignStudios 04-18-2005 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vladimir
you have only one health in your life. remember that.

I'm sure a bit of surgery and a few fake teeth and a glass eye can fix it

BradShaw 04-18-2005 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Jawa
Where is Danza ?

I heard he was at wal mart renting a steam cleaner. Something about a puke spill on his new wal mart rug.

woj 04-18-2005 02:11 PM

100..........

fl_prn_str 04-18-2005 02:12 PM

100...ouches


edit....fuck too slow!!!! :1orglaugh

gdog 04-18-2005 02:15 PM

Still no word from DD, if he posts in the future about his program do we just point to this thread?

Kimbo is brute strenght, no doubt, and if you can get him in a submission there is a HUGE chance he could brute strength his way out of it.

The lost eyeball dude took some major swings at Kimbo's face and he did not even bother to block it. My best friend is blue belt ju-jitsu, and muay thai and used to fight in the 165 weight group. I was talking to him about it, and basically a guy as strong as Kimbo would eat DD up, no matter what pretty much.

Still no word from him, Brad can you call over to Wal Mart and see if he will answer the call to comment.

Pipecrew 04-18-2005 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gdog
Still no word from DD, if he posts in the future about his program do we just point to this thread?

Kimbo is brute strenght, no doubt, and if you can get him in a submission there is a HUGE chance he could brute strength his way out of it.

The lost eyeball dude took some major swings at Kimbo's face and he did not even bother to block it. My best friend is blue belt ju-jitsu, and muay thai and used to fight in the 165 weight group. I was talking to him about it, and basically a guy as strong as Kimbo would eat DD up, no matter what pretty much.

Still no word from him, Brad can you call over to Wal Mart and see if he will answer the call to comment.

Exactly, I have a hard time believing with such a disparity in physical strength, that he could even take kimbo to the ground, but who knows.

dunefield 04-18-2005 02:20 PM

hahaha what i want to know is... HOW THE HELL IS DIRTY DANZA GOING TO GET KIMBO ON THE GROUND?!?!

that Kimbo dude is HUGE! and even if danza does get him on the ground how the hell is he going to deal with Kimbo's brute strength?

WEIGHT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN A FIGHT AND I'M BETTING ON KIMBO!!!

Pipecrew 04-18-2005 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradShaw
I have $100k on kimbo, and I do not even know whot he hell he is.

DD, you going to take me up?

now you know

http://www.sublimedirectory.com/base...edia/kimbo.wmv

BradShaw 04-18-2005 02:23 PM

I called walmart, he is still there on the little 486 in the corner filling out an application.

DirtyDanza 04-18-2005 02:26 PM

just woke up.. long night with whores.... ok.. so it's on it seems.... pipecrew we need to get our people together and set everything up... I want it legit.. non ot this backyard shit... I don;t wannat get beat on 5 times if he does happen to knock me out know what I mean.... and we also need to get in on the PPV stream so we can all make some more money as well.... but I am game... and for the record I have nothing aginst kimbo... last thing I want it a sucker punch from him at a club.. LOL.... but in a tru sactoned fight.. I do think he is beatable.. very beatable.. specally on the ground

Dion 04-18-2005 02:26 PM

Dirty Danza,

LMK if you need a gun, i think that's the only way you'll win. Actually, maybe a shotgun just incase.

"The rise and fall of a gfy'er"

PS. I think he is adding in all these requirements, so the fight will flop due to regulations.

Dion 04-18-2005 02:31 PM

Danza,
I also just took a look at your site. And saw a picture of you. Then i looked at Kimbo again, and again, and once more, again.

Your going to get the shit kicked out of you from the front to back. I hope you have funeral arrangments made.

Digipimp 04-18-2005 02:32 PM

when you go into a fight even if you're grappler or whatever the fuck you want to be you better know that you can at least take a good solid one two from the guy you're fighting or else you already stacked the odds against yourself in a bad way.

those guys bob sapp fights can take a punch or two from him no problem, that's why they get a chance to take him down and submit or something, but if they couldn't take his big one two then they wouldn't have a chance to get him into a guard or submit.

so the real question is can danza take a one two from kimbo in order to get him to the ground or guard, or will he crumble from it, i say he crumbles. there's a chance that he doesn't have to take the big hit before he can get him into the guard though, but that's a small chance.

Thrawn$ 04-18-2005 02:32 PM

You're the man :thumbsup

Vitasoy 04-18-2005 02:34 PM

I would love to see this fight happen. What are the odds? Kimbo is clearly the favourite...

X37375787 04-18-2005 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios
I'm sure a bit of surgery and a few fake teeth and a glass eye can fix it

I don't call all of the above "health". :)

Pipecrew 04-18-2005 02:37 PM

This is the latest, they were waiting for you to respond.


1. if he's serious and has the cash it'll go down

2. no ppv stream no nothing

3. a very small group of people watching

4. hardcore badass fight witha neutral ref

5.bring cash end of story.

gdog 04-18-2005 02:37 PM

Awhile ago there was a video circulating where this smaller white guy got a choke hold on this huge samoan guy. The lock was in full and the samoan guy snapped the white guys shoulder by sheer brute force. Anybody else ever see the video, I think it was on CJ?

Dion 04-18-2005 02:37 PM

pipecrew, he won't go for it :)

Phoenix 04-18-2005 02:38 PM

well at the very least everyone has learnt a new word


disparity...lol


DD...just say something like..haha got you all fuckers

if you do win..i bet half your face is crushed or something

get out now

X37375787 04-18-2005 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty_DS
I do think he is beatable.. very beatable.. specally on the ground



As opposed to in mid-air. The monkeys fly low tonight.

BradShaw 04-18-2005 02:39 PM

DD, going to take my $100k bet?


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