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woj 04-18-2005 12:51 PM

50 fights.....

nudecanada 04-18-2005 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clicky_Bucks
DD will just take a week or so break from GFY and never mention this again.

Yup. Then he will be back spamming his garbage, and blowing smoke up the ass of all the sheep and surfers here. :upsidedow

Biggy2 04-18-2005 12:51 PM

where can i place a bet on kimbo?

no offense DS, that guy is massive.

jonesy 04-18-2005 12:51 PM

ko's . . . .

chodadog 04-18-2005 12:55 PM

If DD is a genuine third degree BB in GJJ, then Kimbo will go down. I really wish there was a way we could verify this. I guess seeing as Anthony has offered to train with him, he'll be able to find out without divulging DD's real name to the rest of the world, which is an obvious concern of his.

Meta Ridley 04-18-2005 12:55 PM

fucking sweet

xxxjay 04-18-2005 12:57 PM

this is gay

Vell 04-18-2005 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay
this is gay

no shit it is.

Manowar 04-18-2005 01:00 PM

Woah :warning :warning

MrIzzz 04-18-2005 01:03 PM

i dont give a shit if bruce lee himself trained DD, lol, aint no way kimbo is going down!

on the other hand, anthony in top shape against kimbo....now that would be a cool showdown

BradShaw 04-18-2005 01:04 PM

I just talked to tyson, he would do it for $10k and a place to crash.

Evil Jawa 04-18-2005 01:06 PM

Someone's going to get his ass whooped.

And it ain't Kimbo :1orglaugh

Pipecrew 04-18-2005 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradShaw
I just talked to tyson, he would do it for $10k and a place to crash.

I saw tyson a month ago at the bank, he can barely walk with a cane and he's so dazed a 7 year old could knock him out.

AcidMax 04-18-2005 01:06 PM

I'm waiting for the "Someone hacked my GFY account and posted all that shit, I dont want to fight Kimbo" post.

badmunchkin 04-18-2005 01:07 PM

you've got some serious balls, Dirty, but you won't be looking so good with your eyeball hanging out of your face :(
http://72.29.64.235/~fullofb/smokey/kimbo.jpg

Anthony 04-18-2005 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrIzzz
i dont give a shit if bruce lee himself trained DD, lol, aint no way kimbo is going down!

on the other hand, anthony in top shape against kimbo....now that would be a cool showdown


Izzy, thank you for the props, but there is NO FUCKING WAY IN HELL I will step up and fight Kimbo!!!

I have switched to grappling because my girl loves my face the way it is. :)

I'm kinda partial to where my nose is, eyes work, etc. :)

Evil Jawa 04-18-2005 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcidMax
I'm waiting for the "Someone hacked my GFY account and posted all that shit, I dont want to fight Kimbo" post.

no shit.

i bet Danza is going to backpoedal out of it

X37375787 04-18-2005 01:11 PM

DD better pull through with this stunt, otherwise his credibility is gonna be down the shitter. Then again, people in this biz seem to forget rather quickly, hence... who cares. But mad balls on Dirty if he really goes and gets the shit kicked out of him.

DomBuyer 04-18-2005 01:12 PM

Grow up.

Thrawn$ 04-18-2005 01:12 PM

LOL :1orglaugh

paying 50k to fight kimbo

another GFY classic

MrIzzz 04-18-2005 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony
Izzy, thank you for the props, but there is NO FUCKING WAY IN HELL I will step up and fight Kimbo!!!

I have switched to grappling because my girl loves my face the way it is. :)

I'm kinda partial to where my nose is, eyes work, etc. :)


duuuuuuuude, come on bro! i will be your towelboy!!!!


j/k

i give mad props to all you fighters, i'm too good of a lover to switch fields and begin fighting now :2 cents:

Evil Jawa 04-18-2005 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thrawn$
LOL :1orglaugh

paying 50k to fight kimbo

another GFY classic


:1orglaugh

X37375787 04-18-2005 01:15 PM

you have only one health in your life. remember that.

Anthony 04-18-2005 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrIzzz
duuuuuuuude, come on bro! i will be your towelboy!!!!


j/k

i give mad props to all you fighters, i'm too good of a lover to switch fields and begin fighting now :2 cents:

I'm just a hobbyist. BJJ is something I do on my off days when lifting. :)

It's never too late, and frankly at our ages, it's the only aerobic excercise I get, since I haven't been getting laid on a frequent basis. :winkwink:

Kevsh 04-18-2005 01:20 PM

I think everyone's giving Kimbo too much credit. At most you've seen 2 of his fights and he lost one.

Anyone with a serious knowledge of MMA will tell you that a guy like that is about 1/3 (or less) as lethal on the ground - and a serious MMA fighter could get him off his feet before taking a direct shot.

If Kimbo has little or no grappling experience his size won't be a factor and once he's on the pavement, mat, grass he's amost helpless against chokes, bars, guards, etc.

Take a look at the Pride fight, for example, where MMA fighter (ok, mostly a boxer) Bob Sapp - who is at least as big as Kimbo - fought 'Minotauro' Nogueira and was beat by an armbar. Nogueira is a LOT smaller than Sapp but wore him down, kept him on the mat and waited for his opportunity.

Now, the only question here is how skilled Dirty is and how he'll react if he's hit a few times before getting the big guy off his feet?

Of course, like everyone else I'm hoping this isn't just another round (pun intended) of GFY talk ...

Anthony 04-18-2005 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh
I think everyone's giving Kimbo too much credit. At most you've seen 2 of his fights and he lost one.

Anyone with a serious knowledge of MMA will tell you that a guy like that is about 1/3 (or less) as lethal on the ground - and a serious MMA fighter could get him off his feet before taking a direct shot.

If Kimbo has little or no grappling experience his size won't be a factor and once he's on the pavement, mat, grass he's amost helpless against chokes, bars, guards, etc.

Take a look at the Pride fight, for example, where MMA fighter (ok, mostly a boxer) Bob Sapp - who is at least as big as Kimbo - fought 'Minotauro' Nogueira and was beat by an armbar. Nogueira is a LOT smaller than Sapp but wore him down, kept him on the mat and waited for his opportunity.

Now, the only question here is how skilled Dirty is and how he'll react if he's hit a few times before getting the big guy off his feet?

Of course, like everyone else I'm hoping this isn't just another round (pun intended) of GFY talk ...

This has been said before by me, but bears repearting.

Kimbo has been training at the FFA in Miami with the Avellans. The Avellan Brothers are some of the best grapplers and trainers in Florida.

Do not use Bob Sapp as an example. One, he is bigger than Kimbo. Two, he fought the best Heavyweight BJJ fighter on the planet. There is no comparison. Sapp over 100 lbs heavier than Kimbo. Noguiera, the pride of BJJ, Danza, no one has heard of. Get the point?

The size disparity between Kimbo and DS is too great. DS will lose.

Thrawn$ 04-18-2005 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh
I think everyone's giving Kimbo too much credit. At most you've seen 2 of his fights and he lost one.

Anyone with a serious knowledge of MMA will tell you that a guy like that is about 1/3 (or less) as lethal on the ground - and a serious MMA fighter could get him off his feet before taking a direct shot.

If Kimbo has little or no grappling experience his size won't be a factor and once he's on the pavement, mat, grass he's amost helpless against chokes, bars, guards, etc.

Take a look at the Pride fight, for example, where MMA fighter (ok, mostly a boxer) Bob Sapp - who is at least as big as Kimbo - fought 'Minotauro' Nogueira and was beat by an armbar. Nogueira is a LOT smaller than Sapp but wore him down, kept him on the mat and waited for his opportunity.

Now, the only question here is how skilled Dirty is and how he'll react if he's hit a few times before getting the big guy off his feet?

Of course, like everyone else I'm hoping this isn't just another round (pun intended) of GFY talk ...

DD is 165 lbs there is no way he can put kimbo on the ground
and he said that he needs to train since he's not in shape :eek7

this guy is on crack

jonesy 04-18-2005 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony

Kimbo has been training at the FFA in Miami with the Avellans. The Avellan Brothers are some of the best grapplers and trainers in Florida.


how long has kimbo been training with the Avellans?

Anthony 04-18-2005 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesy
how long has kimbo been training with the Avellans?

Last I saw Kimbo funny enough was in the Vip of China White. I asked him if he was training with the Avellans, his answer was, "Yeah I go down and take some classes." Nothing more or less.

Very laid back guy, not the beast everyone has been fed in the trailers and fights on the internet. Dare I say, a nice guy?

I still wouldn't fuck with him. He never smiled once the whole night, and had a look that just said, I will make you my bitch if you fuck with me.

Shoehorn! 04-18-2005 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesy
pipecrew

pass this suggestion along to kimbo's handlers

the fight should take place when internext is in hollywood fl in aug- it makes sense on every level especially the gambling one

damn this is gonna be good one.

This'll be great if it ever actually materializes.

Rich 04-18-2005 01:33 PM

Who's taking side bets?

Assuming this is going to actually happen, which it most likely isn't.

Juicy D. Links 04-18-2005 01:34 PM

I am getting WOOD now at this fight

Juicy D. Links 04-18-2005 01:36 PM

56k!!!!!!!!!!!

eroswebmaster 04-18-2005 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrIzzz
i dont give a shit if bruce lee himself trained DD, lol, aint no way kimbo is going down!

on the other hand, anthony in top shape against kimbo....now that would be a cool showdown

There's a reason Kimbo doesn't want the fight to go to the ground..and in his other fight his guys complained of knees and chokes...because the guy is a brawler..that's it.
He has power and with one punch could put anyone's lights out...but if a true BJJ fighter is able to use all of his weapons like the ones mentioned above Kimbo's chances are not slim...but they sure are not completely in his favor anymore.
Also if you look at the video of the indoor fight..you can see he's easily winded even just punching. Don't know if you have ever fought for sport...I did when I trained in JuiJitsu back when I wasn't morbidly obese...LOL..but keeping your arms up like that after awhile they start to weigh a ton.
Anyway...if it really does happen..and I don't know why anyone would want to do it...it will be interesting to watch.

Jizar II 04-18-2005 01:38 PM

fake drama :throwup

shermo 04-18-2005 01:38 PM

I wonder if this will materialize... :error

Roald 04-18-2005 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links
56k!!!!!!!!!!!

you whore!

;)))

eroswebmaster 04-18-2005 01:41 PM

Now that I've read the entire thread I've seen anthony's response about Kimbo training in grappling...that does step his game up quite a bit.

jonesy 04-18-2005 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony
Last I saw Kimbo funny enough was in the Vip of China White. I asked him if he was training with the Avellans, his answer was, "Yeah I go down and take some classes." Nothing more or less.

Very laid back guy, not the beast everyone has been fed in the trailers and fights on the internet. Dare I say, a nice guy?

I still wouldn't fuck with him. He never smiled once the whole night, and had a look that just said, I will make you my bitch if you fuck with me.


hmmm "taking classes" :1orglaugh wonder if hes on a regular training schedule. he prob didnt fess up for the right reasons

ive known and hung with a few street fighters ect and would have to say most were nice guys and some were assholes but like you said you get the vibe that theyre not the types to be fucked with

Dalai lama 04-18-2005 01:45 PM

This will be good

DavieVegas 04-18-2005 01:50 PM

my head hurts from all of this

Kevsh 04-18-2005 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony
This has been said before by me, but bears repearting.

Kimbo has been training at the FFA in Miami with the Avellans. The Avellan Brothers are some of the best grapplers and trainers in Florida.

Do not use Bob Sapp as an example. One, he is bigger than Kimbo. Two, he fought the best Heavyweight BJJ fighter on the planet. There is no comparison. Sapp over 100 lbs heavier than Kimbo. Noguiera, the pride of BJJ, Danza, no one has heard of. Get the point?

The size disparity between Kimbo and DS is too great. DS will lose.

First, I respect your opinion but was merely showing an example - there are many, many more of "big guys" being owned by much smaller opponents. I don't know Danza from a hole in the ground so I should have avoided making any statements about his chances - instead sticking to a general idea on how Kimbo is beatable.

However, the size disparity can be removed on the ground. A good grappler who has "ground strength" can manipulate a much bigger foe who is not trained. You say Kimbo is training, but how much? How serious is he? How long? If it's only been a few months, he's far, far behind someone with years of experience.

As well, has he had any serious non-brawling fights?

Simpy put, there are too many questions about both fighters for anyone here to make such predictions like "he will lose". If you know Danza and you've seen Kimbo training or something recently, then fine, but guys laying money on 2 virtual unknowns (again, only 2 videotaped Kimbo fights doesn't show enough) is crazy.

Juicy D. Links 04-18-2005 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuaShe
you whore!

;)))

you get me email? :pimp

Kicker 04-18-2005 01:58 PM

Kimbo rocks!!!

Anthony 04-18-2005 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh
First, I respect your opinion but was merely showing an example - there are many, many more of "big guys" being owned by much smaller opponents. I don't know Danza from a hole in the ground so I should have avoided making any statements about his chances - instead sticking to a general idea on how Kimbo is beatable.

However, the size disparity can be removed on the ground. A good grappler who has "ground strength" can manipulate a much bigger foe who is not trained. You say Kimbo is training, but how much? How serious is he? How long? If it's only been a few months, he's far, far behind someone with years of experience.

As well, has he had any serious non-brawling fights?

Simpy put, there are too many questions about both fighters for anyone here to make such predictions like "he will lose". If you know Danza and you've seen Kimbo training or something recently, then fine, but guys laying money on 2 virtual unknowns (again, only 2 videotaped Kimbo fights doesn't show enough) is crazy.

Kevsh,

Thank you for a well thought out response. At this time, I can only go with what information that is in front of me. Which is Kimbo can strike, and is working on his ground game. Teach that man how to Sprawl and Brawl, and that's trouble!

Sean Gannon, Kimbo's last opponent is an active MMA fighter. Golden Gloves Champion. He wasn't favored to win, but he did. Repeatedly during that fight. Calling that fight and saying one or the other is going to win would be folly. But people did anyway.

Let's fast forward to now and DD and Kimbo. There has been no proof that DD is a 3rd BB in BJJ. He's a virtual unknown with no tournament, ring, or cage fights. Hell, I've fought in 2 tournaments, and you can find video of me getting 2nd place in each one, how come we can't of a 7 year plus Brazillian Black Belt? Alledgely.

We do know that Kimbo can hit.

We do know that Kimbo is activelytraining.

We do know that DD hasn't trained in some time.

We do know that DD has sidestepped the BJJ BB question forever.

Where do you think I"m going put my money on?

Cheers.

Evil Jawa 04-18-2005 02:05 PM

Where is Danza ?

DomBuyer 04-18-2005 02:07 PM

If this isn't the biggest setup to a fix, I don't know what is...

BradShaw 04-18-2005 02:10 PM

I have $100k on kimbo, and I do not even know whot he hell he is.

DD, you going to take me up?

BlueDesignStudios 04-18-2005 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vladimir
you have only one health in your life. remember that.

I'm sure a bit of surgery and a few fake teeth and a glass eye can fix it

BradShaw 04-18-2005 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Jawa
Where is Danza ?

I heard he was at wal mart renting a steam cleaner. Something about a puke spill on his new wal mart rug.


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