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Old 04-17-2005, 12:27 PM   #1
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Submitters! Explain how you go about your business.

Would you mind explaining your method to submiting galleries? Where do you get the galleries from? Do you submit with a program? How much money do you make with the method you use? Do you hire people to submit the galleries you build? Where do you get your content from? Just any question that might be helpfull in explaining why you do the things you do, and how far it gets you.

Just spill the beans and explain your method to submitting galleries
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Old 04-17-2005, 12:27 PM   #2
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1. Build Gallery
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Edit: You are too general. Ask some specific questions and they will be answered
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Old 04-17-2005, 12:29 PM   #3
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"Where do you get the galleries from?"
Just go to http://www.thehun.net and you can find them
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I was being general for the sake of the specific questions to be answered in a diverse way by many gallery submitters. It would be amazing if we could get a few different people to break it down and explain how they go about the work they do. It adds a bit more individuality to the method they explain.
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Old 04-17-2005, 12:32 PM   #5
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I was being general for the sake of the specific questions to be answered in a diverse way by many gallery submitters. It would be amazing if we could get a few different people to break it down and explain how they go about the work they do. It adds a bit more individuality to the method they explain.
No, because anyone who actually has the perfect stpes planned out to get listed wont tell you.

Ask specific questions.
If you are looking for a step by step way to get into gallery submiting.

1. Design gallery. Logo. 15 Pics or 3 movies. 3 Out URLs
2. Content, buy it or get it from a sponsor
3. Get chameleon submitter
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Old 04-17-2005, 12:33 PM   #6
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"Where do you get the galleries from?"
Just go to http://www.thehun.net and you can find them

This is a great place to study FHG's. You can read all you want about making the perfect FHG, but if you want reality, then you would study the FHGs that the top dogs approve of. The Hun is on top for a reason, so any submitter should study the galleries he chooses on a daily basis.
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This is a great place to study FHG's. You can read all you want about making the perfect FHG, but if you want reality, then you would study the FHGs that the top dogs approve of. The Hun is on top for a reason, so any submitter should study the galleries he chooses on a daily basis.


Are you really that clueless?

Do you know what an FHG is?
Do you know taht there isnt a single FHG in thehun.net daily list of galleries
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No, because anyone who actually has the perfect stpes planned out to get listed wont tell you.

Ask specific questions.
If you are looking for a step by step way to get into gallery submiting.

1. Design gallery. Logo. 15 Pics or 3 movies. 3 Out URLs
2. Content, buy it or get it from a sponsor
3. Get chameleon submitter
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No one is perfect, so we don't have to worry about that. I understand the importance of keeping things to a low, but in a subject as broad as gallery submission, I'm sure that people can be more considerate to the time and atmosphere.
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Old 04-17-2005, 12:38 PM   #10
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Would you mind explaining your method to submiting galleries? Where do you get the galleries from? Do you submit with a program? How much money do you make with the method you use? Do you hire people to submit the galleries you build? Where do you get your content from? Just any question that might be helpfull in explaining why you do the things you do, and how far it gets you.

Just spill the beans and explain your method to submitting galleries
Ill just quickly answer, but you need to be a bit more specific.

1. I design them
2. Yes
3. None of anyones businesss
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5. Some bought some sponsor
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"Do you hire people to submit the galleries you build?"

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Old 04-17-2005, 01:08 PM   #12
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some days

Would you like to dive further into who you get to submit your galleries, and why you only do it on some days?
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Old 04-17-2005, 01:20 PM   #15
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What's my point? Spend less time posting, and more time experimenting.
You learn best doing things on your own... My .

I was just contemplating the same thing. Although I don't know to much, I'll probobly learn more by diving right into it and patching up ignorance as I go along. This post was meant to be my last source of extremely helpfull information before I dedicate myself to something. I would really like to discuss submission on a technical and easy to understand level in this thread. I already know that I'm the noob asking the questions. There isn't any pride or humility to keep me from saying that I simply want to know more about something I don't know much about by means of asking how you do it. I know it's a simple question that isn't specific, but if people would treat it just as that, alot can be learned.
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I joined in 2005 under the name Chris Malais. I tried posting under the name 05cjmala six months before, but for some reason I was never allowed to post, so I just read through the forums when I felt like learning something.

Give me a hand. Explain your methods and reasoning behind them. I'm not gonna back off of this subject untill I have it fully understood.
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I also consider asking people questions as a form of learning on my own. If you don't go into this business with extreme open mindness, then the evolution of your line of work will probobly kill you.
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you have to understand this is the inernet, no one explains ANY methods 99% of the time because if you do you will have half the known earth copying your business model.
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you have to understand this is the inernet, no one explains ANY methods 99% of the time because if you do you will have half the known earth copying your business model.
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Edit: You are too general. Ask some specific questions and they will be answered

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The best way to find out is do it yourself and learn by trial and error. I can show you how to make $20K a month very easily from galleries but I had to learn the hard way. I had little help from anyone. Thus, I'm very protective of the knowledge. Not that I submit galleries at the moment, but I probably will in the future.

It really isn't rocket science though. Get a submitter, 50+ partner accounts, and MOST importantly learn how to make a gallery that converts.
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The best way to find out is do it yourself and learn by trial and error. I can show you how to make $20K a month very easily from galleries but I had to learn the hard way. I had little help from anyone. Thus, I'm very protective of the knowledge. Not that I submit galleries at the moment, but I probably will in the future.

It really isn't rocket science though. Get a submitter, 50+ partner accounts, and MOST importantly learn how to make a gallery that converts.
Would it not be profitable for you to help say 5 people and they pay you everything they make over $10K/mo. for 6 months?
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Would it not be profitable for you to help say 5 people and they pay you everything they make over $10K/mo. for 6 months?
It would never work logistically.

Besides, I wouldn't feel happy charging anyone. The information is out there and so is the knowledge you can gain from submitting -- and it's all free info.

There is a thread on another board where people honestly cannot believe it's possible to make $6K a month as an adult webmaster. I'm shocked. I know this sounds boastful, but it is truly shocking. I can think of at least a dozen ways to do it -- and yep tgp is still definitely one of them.
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The best way to find out is do it yourself and learn by trial and error. I can show you how to make $20K a month very easily from galleries but I had to learn the hard way. I had little help from anyone. Thus, I'm very protective of the knowledge. Not that I submit galleries at the moment, but I probably will in the future.

It really isn't rocket science though. Get a submitter, 50+ partner accounts, and MOST importantly learn how to make a gallery that converts.


I understand that you didn't have much help from anyone, but I don't think that detail makes you a better submitter. It may take better learning skills to learn on your own, but it wont make you the better submitter.

For example, I learned how to play guitar on my own, and I've become damned good at it. While I'm probobly better than 98 out of every 100 guitar players, I can honestly say that If I would have learned with more of the answers given to me from the start, that I would be a better guitar player from a technical standpoint?

But maybe you're more innovative being that you learned on your own. I know my guitar playing style is obscure. While being innovative or obscure may be good in one way, it's also risky. Knowing your shit is all that matters. I just want to go about it the most efficient way as possible.
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It would never work logistically.

Besides, I wouldn't feel happy charging anyone. The information is out there and so is the knowledge you can gain from submitting -- and it's all free info.

There is a thread on another board where people honestly cannot believe it's possible to make $6K a month as an adult webmaster. I'm shocked. I know this sounds boastful, but it is truly shocking. I can think of at least a dozen ways to do it -- and yep tgp is still definitely one of them.
as an adult webmaster you can make 6k money np but you have to invest some money too, not only time.
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It would never work logistically.

Besides, I wouldn't feel happy charging anyone. The information is out there and so is the knowledge you can gain from submitting -- and it's all free info.

There is a thread on another board where people honestly cannot believe it's possible to make $6K a month as an adult webmaster. I'm shocked. I know this sounds boastful, but it is truly shocking. I can think of at least a dozen ways to do it -- and yep tgp is still definitely one of them.

Maybe your time is worth money? Maybe your time will help others convert?
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Thanks for the guide. I would still like to see this thread develop into something more usefull though.
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The best way to find out is do it yourself and learn by trial and error. I can show you how to make $20K a month very easily from galleries but I had to learn the hard way. I had little help from anyone. Thus, I'm very protective of the knowledge. Not that I submit galleries at the moment, but I probably will in the future.

It really isn't rocket science though. Get a submitter, 50+ partner accounts, and MOST importantly learn how to make a gallery that converts.


I understand that you didn't have much help from anyone, but I don't think that detail makes you a better submitter. It may take better learning skills to learn on your own, but it wont make you the better submitter.

For example, I learned how to play guitar on my own, and I've become damned good at it. While I'm probobly better than 98 out of every 100 guitar players, I can honestly say that If I would have learned with more of the answers given to me from the start, that I would be a better guitar player from a technical standpoint.

But maybe you're more innovative being that you learned on your own. I know my guitar playing style is obscure. While being innovative or obscure may be good in one way, it's also risky. Knowing your shit is all that matters. I just want to go about it the most efficient way as possible.
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only clueless people would do that...I prefer to actualy see what works...
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only clueless people would do that...I prefer to actualy see what works...

People like to avoid the obvious intentions of a thread if they think they have the chance to come off as being better than someone else. I know there is more to it than build, submit, and forget. Maybe that is the only aspects of it that you people know? Lets start to act like adult webmasters and help the community out a bit.
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Noob scenerio question: What would be the outcome of a good submitter that submits only to partner accounts that he pays for? Is time better spent with paid partner accounts and good galleries, or is it better to hustle up sites that will list you easily?
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Meh, I'm just starting with this crap too..
But, from what I'd guess, it's best to find high traffic sites that are willing to list your stuff
just because it's a 'partner' site, doesn't mean it's good!
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I was being serious at first, but now I think I'll change my previous statement into one of sarcasm Better now?
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The hun is full of galleries, not FHGs. Just thought i'd clear that up ^^
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The hun is full of galleries, not FHGs. Just thought i'd clear that up ^^

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Old 04-17-2005, 08:19 PM   #46
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1. use clean galleries, no iframes or anything like that
2. submit daily for a few months to the same tgps by hand then ask for a partner account
3. hand submit to all major tgp's, auto submit to the small ones
4. use good content thats unique and "fresh"
5. don't use a free host, most are banned.
6. never change a gallery after its submitted
7. spend some money on some good gallery templates or look at the top spots and take notes on their galleries. Since they are paying they are usually quality galleries.
8. follow every tgp's rules, always.
9. never use a free email account to submit
10. www.gofuckyourself.com/search.php
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Old 04-17-2005, 08:22 PM   #47
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i never paid for gallery listings, i think thats why i have to work my ass off to get some decent cash
I've never bought a paid listing even one time and I regularily clear well over 10K in a month.

Paid partner accounts are a different matter.
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Old 04-17-2005, 08:36 PM   #48
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I've never bought a paid listing even one time and I regularily clear well over 10K in a month.

Paid partner accounts are a different matter.


I bet you can raise that 10K if you bought paid listings. Is the 10K from submitting alone? How long do you work?
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I have a gallery designer build me a template, i use sponsor provided content, i use dreamsubmitter to submit, and i rinse and repeat many times daily.

dreamsubmitter is the one tool that is a must.
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Old 04-17-2005, 09:35 PM   #50
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I bet you can raise that 10K if you bought paid listings. Is the 10K from submitting alone? How long do you work?
The check hasn't arrived yet, no more information, sorry.
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