Sorry will on this one youa re just wrong, Adult Friend Finder is far larger than Ifriends/Clickcash. It has far more employees does way many times more volume and Converts traffic better than Clickcash !

For some webcam specific traffic Adult Friend Finder might not convert better than Clickcash but for general traffic nothing absolutely nothing out converts Adult friend Finder.


I know you love your baby but in this game it looses to the 10,000 pound Gorilla that is Friendfinder network, which is at the very top of the pack in terms of traffic as rated by many of the top metrics rating systems.

You can try other programs with your traffic that youa re sending to AFF of course but I bet you will return shortly thereafter due to the enormous payouts that are to be made at AFF.

And Adult Friend Finder will be releaseing some new options and opportunities soon that will make it even more over the top at converting.

Just a tip if you are not using the geo targeted options and sending to the geo targeted search results you are missing the boat, Adult FriendFinders nearly 20 million active members makes it the geo targeting machine finding people in your area to hook up with !

I got 2 words for you- Adult Locals

... geo targeting is over exploited, ratios have dropped to almost what they were before the introduction of geo targeting.

Which would be a third of what you send.

Yes 5,000,000 divided by 365 = about 22,500 on average.

And not the actualy 13,500

If you cant do simple math how can you help anyone tweak numbers?

Very revelatory thread.



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I'm buying traffic.

lensman at adult.com

Well I would like to hear from some the AFF affiliates to backup those claims. I don't doubt that AFF is a big company and there are a lot of people that make money with them, I just dont think they blow ClickCash away as you claim or even beat them for that matter. ClickCash has about 150K registered webmasters, pays 10's of millions a year in money to webmasters... i don't have a clue about the other stuff, but could care less who has more hits or employees. Converting is all relative, you can convert 1:50 and make $5 but I would rather convert 1:200 and make $60.

All i have is general traffic, not just webcam specific. Also tried the geo ads, and while some people may make money with them, I bet it is a fad that fades away pretty quick. How long do you expect people to keep failing for it.

As far as being biased . Well I am sure most people would say that about program owners, where as most people would tell me that I am crazy for opening my mouth in the first place and creating my own competition on ClickCash. Just a different way of looking at things.

IF there any AFF guys here making a lot of money please post how much I am curious !

[QUOTE=Alex]Yes 5,000,000 divided by 365 = about 22,500 on average.

lol because it was over 8 months not a year.

Just so you are clear... for the slow learners...

5,500,000 hits 8 months time. (roughly 30 days per month) 30x8 = 240

5,500,000 / 240 = 22,916.666667 ( i rounded it to 22,500)

some people have to be so anal... even if i did make a calculator mistake whats the big deal... geesh. got it over it.

Here's a challenge.

Brad, you tried AFF for 8 months. take a screen snap shot of your stats, and send the same traffic to ClickCash for the next 8 months. Post screen shot, lets the stats tell the truth and the world to see. If i am wrong I will be the first to admit it. Can look at hits and even do a % per hit to make it fair if one 8 month period received more hits. I think it is safe to assume his free host traffic is pretty much consistant in quality.

[QUOTE=will76]He said he has sent 5 million in the past 12 months.

[QUOTE=Alex]
My mistake you wre talking to brad and not funkmaster

[QUOTE=Alex]No problem... Yeah I was replying to Brad, he said since last August, so I figured that's about 8 months...

http://www.alexa.com/site/ds/top_sit...e=lang&lang=en

Adult Friend Finder is the in the top 50 most visited site on the web in english.
Sorry Click Cash just is not there.

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?w=379...u=ifriends.net

Anyway you should send all your traffic to Adult Friend Finder you will make more money than with Click Cash !

Sorry but the site with the most "hits" doesn't mean anything to me... infact if it does mean anything it means that program is over saturaited. Same could be said for Clickcash (even though they are not on the list :upsidedow ) It all comes down to how you package your add. Doesn't look like AFF has much flexibility (but i honestly haven't looked indept into it). I wouldn't want to use the same ads that 2 million other people are using. That's another reason why I like ClickCash, i make all my own tours, ads, etc.. and tie their site into my design.

Hey I say we get Brad to take the challenge and we make a bet ;) :thumbsup . If he discloses his AFF stats for the last 8 months and tries ClickCash for the next 8 months (and send equal traffic) and he makes less money I will buy an add for AFF on GFY for 1 month with no affiliate codes nothing all proceeds go to AFF. If I win you do the same for Team ClickCash :thumbsup

and no i am not trying to be sneaky and have you give up an affiliate for 8 months for a stupid banner LOL /// although one could look at it that way on the surface. Brad made it pretty clear he wants to try something else so I say why not ClickCash and we can see which works better for him.

Anyone know if Brad is interested in doing this ?

All of sudden this thread become very interesting :)

Have to agree with some of the stuff will said btw...

Come and join IwantU.com our programs are top of the industry, come and make more money with us we have been trusted since 1996 for our service and loyalty to our affiliates... :thumbsup

Bryan, I don't want to bash anyone here, but this kinda goes along the lines of what i say in my sig " blowing smoke up your ass...."

How can you guys say " make more money with us" seriously. Have you checked your top 100 link lately ?

Hey Will76, i´m not trying to blow anything out of proportion but here are the top ten affiliates so far for this week, please check our top 100 again,, peace.

Top 10 affiliates live!
1 Chatsworth, United States $10,470.00
2 Carlsbad, United States $5,289.50
3 Tadworth, United Kingdom $3,030.00
4 Shanghai, China $2,273.00
5 Independence, Missouri, United States $2,153.31
6 Anonymous $1,745.14
7 Bradenton, United States $1,546.08
8 Donetsk, Ukraine $1,255.87
9 San Diego, United States $1,209.98
10 Landrum, United States $1,070.00

Bryan - I think will with that comment meant that your top100 is far from impressive (just trying to clear things up)

It looks like it .......

Bryan... when you make comments like " make more money with us", it is smoke blowing up people's ass. what are you basing his on? This is worse then people who say " the best site on the net" at least that is an opinion. "Make more money with us " is something that is factual.

For example: I did check it out your list. add up your top 100 people's income for the first 14 days of april ... ALL 100 combined, I made more then them in my first 14 days of April.

So when i (just 1 affiliate for clickcash) make more money then your entire affiliate program how in the hell can you tell people " make more money with us?"

Take a look at www.housewivescash.com

Wow, lots of action today.

Sorry I've been out of the office and in meetings. I have a party interested in purchasing the freehosts from me and am giving them the next week to think about it. If anybody else is interested, you are welcome to email me at [email protected] but this party has first dibbs at the price I quoted them.

I believe it's worth reiterating that I think very highly of AFF. With the 4 or 5 sponsor programs I promoted before I switched it all to AFF I had inconsistent, unaccountable results. Now, with zero effort I get two consistent monthly checks from AFF and have 8 months of history where they've always paid on time and the numbers they count jive with my own stats.

I'm fully busy with MojoHost and 123Bill and have everything else off my plate except these small freehosts. If I had more time to spend, or any at all really, I'm sure that I could tweak the sites to do better with AFF or even just diversify and target a few different sponsors better. However, I don't.

So, rather spontaneously, I'm entertaining selling the sites. If the current offer I made to someone doesn't close I'll then entertain other ones. If nothing pans out, I'll re-evaluate the sponsor-traffic situation. I'm happy selling the property, it'll save me about 2 hours a month in work. :)

Thank you everyone for taking the time to ICQ and respond to me in this thread.

Brad

And, you know, everybody that is so confident that they can do better generating revenue is speaking too soon.

Forget the numbers, they mean nothing. Everything is about traffic quality. I've been doing this for 6 years now and although I am always learning, I do know quite a bit already. The only reasonable approach anybody could take to this situation would be to experiment with the traffic and see if they can do better. Anybody saying they could guarantee better results is putting themselves at risk because all traffic is not created equal.

:)

Why dont you post your stats, I want to drool...

:2 cents: :thumbsup

Brad and Funkmaster, Please contact me if you are interested in trying StudioCash, 1 in 300 1st page average conversions for the entire program right now
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=456071

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The quality of the traffic is the key, correct. But in your situation your traffic quality remains pretty consistant, only seems logical. I dont see why you can't expect the same results from free host traffic week in and week out just the same as you can from tgp traffic, etc...

I am confident that you can make more money with sending your traffic to ClickCash (vs, what you made with AFF), There is no 100% gurantee with anything, but I am certain enough to make a friendly wager on it for a few bucks, (as post above) But now I see you are selling the free host and yes I am interested. Maybe I should just buy it and carry out the experiment on my own and let everyone see for themselves ;) I'm emailing you for more details if your current deal does not go through.

Some stats posted here by me and others... good discussion about why (or why not) companies disclose what their affiliates make.

EDIT: lol i see you started this topic... hell you should have seen it then...

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/456065-dont-sponsors-list-top-affilates.html

IwantU.com
 

We are happy to hear that you are successful with other programs. Our top 100 only show our top100 earning affiliates! We have several thousand affiliates and we don't only pay 100 affiliates per week :)

If you want to diversify your traffic, give us a try and see if you convert good with us or not.

If you are sending a good deal of traffic, we can set you up with a higher payout immediately.

Hit me by ICQ anytime for any question.

wow! being "new" on the board, that's one of the most alive thread I've read recently :thumbsup

I can see there's a lot of shopping options out there!
Information is key in order to know where to redirect your traffic. Honestly, there's no absolute truth or answer to that subject. Some people might do better with some programs because of their quality of traffic.

One important thing is that at iwantu.com, we treat each affiliate separately and we are able to customize a plan that will bring you better revenues for your traffic.

Hit me up by icq if you wanna talk! :2 cents:

Someone remind me on Monday and I'll screencap my stats for everyone to look at. It'll make ya cry! LOL

Brad

A smart affiliate will try all programs, and stick with what works best for him, his needs and his traffic :2 cents:

... damn, if I would send traffic for a couple of days I could be your best affiliate.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Damn funk, your sig cracks me up. Who made that?
I wonder what he was really picking up.

I am not trying to bash your program, it looks nice and you do have a pretty good list there of affilates... I shouldn't even bother replying back and keeping this going you seem like nice people. I just can't help but point out the inaccuracies... When you say that the list only shows your top 100 earners and that you pay out 1000's of webmasters thats cool.. but your #100 guy only made $40... so i guess it is safe to assume 101 - 999 isn;t going to add up to a whole lot of money. I think my statement is still accurate.

yes indeedy. I was just looking at the IWU top 10 from this morning vs now.

...Some dude from North Las Vegas made over $2000 in 6 hours today. :thumbsup