Tech question: Can a router slow down a connection? - GoFuckYourself.com

PersianKitty · 04-13-2005, 12:36 AM

I recently upgraded to the 6Mb speed option through comcast. With my main pc plugged straight into the cable modem, my speakeasy tests run about 5600/580. When I add my Microsoft router into the loop the tests drop to 3900/530 and below. I've reset and recycled several times. Others in my zip code are receiving 6Mb on tests.

Anyone have any insights?

baddog · 04-13-2005, 12:43 AM

yeah, a router will most likely slow you down, unless you upgrade to a faster router. those extra steps knock nano-seconds off your speed

RyuLion · 04-13-2005, 12:45 AM

check with the brand of the router. Did you have to install software for it?
See if you can config. it there.
A friend had Speakeasy, they blocked a lot of his emails so be warned!
p.s. How about a partner account?

Alky · 04-13-2005, 12:48 AM

your pc is the router???

TheDoc · 04-13-2005, 12:48 AM

Hey PK...

Many routers are total trash. MS, Linksys, etc.. Many try to add in custom encryption, packet crap, etc.. I recommend you check out the Belkin line of routers, go with pre-n if you want wireless. 800,000 sq foot of broadcast, super fast, very secure, and easy to use.

http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatSecti...tion_Id=202570

PersianKitty · 04-13-2005, 12:52 AM

Don't think Microsoft makes a faster router. This one is rated to 54Mbps. Got this one because it's one of the few that allows multiple XBoxLive connections without problems. Just trying to figure out of the speed test is flakey through the router or if it's the actual connection.

Vell · 04-13-2005, 12:59 AM

PK - the 54mbit/sec only denote the theoretical maximum packet throughput through the router. If a firewall is activated, each tcp packet will get processed in order to determine whether it should be passed through or not. I suggest turning it off.

pstation · 04-13-2005, 01:00 AM

try upgrading the firmware first

venus · 04-13-2005, 01:02 AM

if you do not need the router, just get a switch, it will be faster.

Alky · 04-13-2005, 01:04 AM

i didnt even know microsoft made routers

KMR Stitch · 04-13-2005, 01:06 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...7099 923&rd=1

If you want to spend a little more $ and get something better for home use

PersianKitty · 04-13-2005, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vell

PK - the 54mbit/sec only denote the theoretical maximum packet throughput through the router. If a firewall is activated, each tcp packet will get processed in order to determine whether it should be passed through or not. I suggest turning it off.

Can't disable the firewall that's part of this router.

pstation · 04-13-2005, 01:08 AM

aren't those at EOL?

Quote:

Originally Posted by KMR Stitch

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...7099 923&rd=1

If you want to spend a little more $ and get something better for home use

Xplicit · 04-13-2005, 01:42 AM

Obvious solution would be:

- Connect directly to your computer, run the speed test.

- Connect through your router immediately after, run speed test.

If its a big difference, its %99 odds that its the router.

PersianKitty · 04-13-2005, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xplicit

Obvious solution would be:

- Connect directly to your computer, run the speed test.

- Connect through your router immediately after, run speed test.

If its a big difference, its %99 odds that its the router.

That's what I said in my post..

Direct to pc is 5600/580
through router is 3900/530

baddog · 04-13-2005, 02:38 AM

My son purchased a MS router, and it was complete garbage, I would probably lean more towards Belkin or Linksys myself.

MGibson · 04-13-2005, 02:41 AM

Go to Lynksis, buy an unmanaged Switch for around $100 that has 100Mbps and a 1Gb connection port.

Throw up to 28 connections into it, it'll hum.

lazycash · 04-13-2005, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xplicit

Obvious solution would be:

- Connect directly to your computer, run the speed test.

- Connect through your router immediately after, run speed test.

If its a big difference, its %99 odds that its the router.

Lol Einstein, did you bother reading the initial post?

MGibson · 04-13-2005, 02:43 AM

Have 3, they work like a charm.

http://www.compusa.com/products/prod...216&pfp=BROWSE

With its advanced switching technology, the EtherFast® 3124 24-Port 10/100 Ethernet Switch will boost your network performance with much more than just full duplex data transfer and dedicated bandwidth.

It features non-blocking, wire-speed switching that forwards packets as fast as your network can deliver them. Also included are Address Learning and Aging to prevent data transfer errors and Data Flow Control to help prevent packet collisions.

The EtherFast 3124 is rack mountable and includes an Expansion Slot that accepts an optional Fiber Module to let you grow your network by linking to other switches in full duplex mode up to 2000 meters (6560 feet) away.

No matter how intensive your network demands, the EtherFast 3124 24-Port 10/100 Ethernet Switch's advanced chipset supports your needs with an affordable and efficient networking solution you can count on.
24 Autosensing 10/100 full duplex, auto MDI/MDI-X ports
Optional 100BaseFX Fiber Optic Module connects multiple switches at high speed as your network grows
Run blazing speeds up to 200Mbps
Address Learning and Aging and Data Flow Control for transmission reliability

MGibson · 04-13-2005, 02:47 AM

http://www.linksys.com/products/prod...id=39&prid=570

Top of the line, with 1GB switching for under $300, not sold in stores yet though 8(

PersianKitty · 04-13-2005, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

My son purchased a MS router, and it was complete garbage, I would probably lean more towards Belkin or Linksys myself.

I used a Linksys prior to buying the MS one. Linksys router gave the boys fits when more than one of them was playing XBoxLive. With the MS router, I've had 3 separate xboxes playing wired and one on wireless with no problems.

MGibson · 04-13-2005, 04:43 AM

Hey now, SOME linksys ARE junk. The blue and light blue ones STAY AWAY From.

But the ones I posted, they are good man.

hey Persian do you use ICQ?
Ive only ever gotten 3 galleries approved on your site, was wondering if I could talk to you sometime...

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PersianKitty Meow Media Inc. Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: In the valley of the sun, cactus, tacos, tequila, and nod Posts: 7,785	Don't think Microsoft makes a faster router. This one is rated to 54Mbps. Got this one because it's one of the few that allows multiple XBoxLive connections without problems. Just trying to figure out of the speed test is flakey through the router or if it's the actual connection. __________________ Wondering what webmaster programs PK uses? Check them out here!

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04-13-2005, 12:43 AM	#2
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	yeah, a router will most likely slow you down, unless you upgrade to a faster router. those extra steps knock nano-seconds off your speed

04-13-2005, 12:48 AM	#4
Alky Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 5,651	your pc is the router???

04-13-2005, 12:59 AM	#7
Vell So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 170	PK - the 54mbit/sec only denote the theoretical maximum packet throughput through the router. If a firewall is activated, each tcp packet will get processed in order to determine whether it should be passed through or not. I suggest turning it off.

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pstation Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: chicago Posts: 1,135	try upgrading the firmware first

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Alky Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 5,651	i didnt even know microsoft made routers

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KMR Stitch I am cool Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 14,494	http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...7099 923&rd=1 If you want to spend a little more $ and get something better for home use

04-13-2005, 01:42 AM	#14
Xplicit Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: █◄►█ Posts: 3,558	Obvious solution would be: - Connect directly to your computer, run the speed test. - Connect through your router immediately after, run speed test. If its a big difference, its %99 odds that its the router.

04-13-2005, 02:38 AM	#16
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	My son purchased a MS router, and it was complete garbage, I would probably lean more towards Belkin or Linksys myself.

04-13-2005, 02:41 AM	#17
MGibson So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 772	Go to Lynksis, buy an unmanaged Switch for around $100 that has 100Mbps and a 1Gb connection port. Throw up to 28 connections into it, it'll hum.

04-13-2005, 02:43 AM	#19
MGibson So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 772	Have 3, they work like a charm. http://www.compusa.com/products/prod...216&pfp=BROWSE With its advanced switching technology, the EtherFast® 3124 24-Port 10/100 Ethernet Switch will boost your network performance with much more than just full duplex data transfer and dedicated bandwidth. It features non-blocking, wire-speed switching that forwards packets as fast as your network can deliver them. Also included are Address Learning and Aging to prevent data transfer errors and Data Flow Control to help prevent packet collisions. The EtherFast 3124 is rack mountable and includes an Expansion Slot that accepts an optional Fiber Module to let you grow your network by linking to other switches in full duplex mode up to 2000 meters (6560 feet) away. No matter how intensive your network demands, the EtherFast 3124 24-Port 10/100 Ethernet Switch's advanced chipset supports your needs with an affordable and efficient networking solution you can count on. 24 Autosensing 10/100 full duplex, auto MDI/MDI-X ports Optional 100BaseFX Fiber Optic Module connects multiple switches at high speed as your network grows Run blazing speeds up to 200Mbps Address Learning and Aging and Data Flow Control for transmission reliability Last edited by MGibson; 04-13-2005 at 02:45 AM..

04-13-2005, 02:47 AM	#20
MGibson So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 772	http://www.linksys.com/products/prod...id=39&prid=570 Top of the line, with 1GB switching for under $300, not sold in stores yet though 8(

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MGibson So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 772	Hey now, SOME linksys ARE junk. The blue and light blue ones STAY AWAY From. But the ones I posted, they are good man. hey Persian do you use ICQ? Ive only ever gotten 3 galleries approved on your site, was wondering if I could talk to you sometime...