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Pathfinder · 01-03-2002, 06:17 AM

Before I quit the business and began anew, among other sites, I operated a TGP for about a year. I touched upon trading traffic for a short period of time. I did not seem to get an influx of traffic or an increase in sales so I dropped it. I never did like the use of a blind link in the first place.
Upon reflection it seems to me that trading traffic is circular and the same traffic is being pushed from one trading partner to the next.
This may drive up your hit counters, but what is the point of pushing the same traffic around? Is the point much like a CJ site; piss off the surfer from being misled by blind links so that he will signup for a paysite?

Maybe some of you will take the time to educate me about the benefits of trading traffic, and also the downside of trading traffic.

Thanks

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Pathfinder · 01-03-2002, 11:45 AM

I posted this yesterday under Webmaster Q & Fuckin' A and did not get a response.

I guess I no education for me.

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pr0 · 01-03-2002, 11:55 AM

What? Huh? Did you get sand in your vagina?

Why?? Cuz its how the business is run.

How do you fix it?

I dunno man...get some $ & slang it around till u got some CJ friends..then kindly ask them to stop.

Thats how our politicians work...why not our biz

Exxxotica · 01-03-2002, 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by Pathfinder:
Before I quit the business and began anew, among other sites, I operated a TGP for about a year. I touched upon trading traffic for a short period of time. I did not seem to get an influx of traffic or an increase in sales so I dropped it. I never did like the use of a blind link in the first place.
Upon reflection it seems to me that trading traffic is circular and the same traffic is being pushed from one trading partner to the next.
This may drive up your hit counters, but what is the point of pushing the same traffic around? Is the point much like a CJ site; piss off the surfer from being misled by blind links so that he will signup for a paysite?

Maybe some of you will take the time to educate me about the benefits of trading traffic, and also the downside of trading traffic.

Thanks

The more traffic you have circulating, the more you have going to your sponsors.

Most of your traffic will be sent back out through trades, this is how traffic grows, or stabilizes.

Within this circle, a good number will end up clicking on a sponsor advertisement instead.

A simple example: I have a sponsor link right up at the top of my site. It might say something like "Visit this site for hot amateur girls"

A lot of traffic will click on it and go to my sponsor. Many dont. Those who dont, whether it be because they know that link goes to a paysite, or they dont want to see amateur girls, end up further down my site. This is where my galleries and other sponsors are. The surfer gets a few galleries, maybe clicks through on another sponsor, or is sent on his way through a trade link. (both real and blind is the best combination IMO)

Hopefully that trade will bring in a surfer who does click on my sponsor.

Multiply this times 50 thousand, and it adds up.

Pathfinder · 01-04-2002, 12:49 AM

Exxotica:

Thanks for the input.

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UnseenWorld · 01-04-2002, 01:34 AM

I think the Internet sex business is unique in that businesses that are supposedly in competition cooperate with each other and send each other traffic. I wonder if this could eventually run afoul of antitrust laws designed to promote competition (which implies thwarting cooperation)?

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kmanrox · 01-04-2002, 01:40 AM

what exxxotica sed...

kmanrox · 01-04-2002, 01:43 AM

unseenworld; this is seen in many instances in real mainstream business... one case in point, Las Vegas.... The casinos link to each other with the crosswalks and whatnot, they will swap traffic as if it were adult traffic, someoen doesnt like your casino, let them go to the next, and keep walkin until they like something, and the casino you sent your uninterested person to, perhaps he will have an uninterested person in his casino that will like yours better =-)

Martin · 01-04-2002, 03:46 PM

CJ Traffic is crap. You think by pissing the surfer off he's going to use his credit card on your site? Not likely.. That's why these UCJ sites and CJ sites have to resort to using dialers making them look like free movies and TheHun gets paid thousands of dollars monthly to have banners and galleries put on his site...

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Exxxotica · 01-04-2002, 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by Martin:
CJ Traffic is crap. You think by pissing the surfer off he's going to use his credit card on your site? Not likely.. That's why these UCJ sites and CJ sites have to resort to using dialers making them look like free movies and TheHun gets paid thousands of dollars monthly to have banners and galleries put on his site...

I disagree, there is money to be made in all aspects of the adult business.

CJ, TGP, Freesites, Paysites, Content Providing, AVS, even Gallery Posting.

Martin · 01-04-2002, 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by Exxxotica:
I disagree, there is money to be made in all aspects of the adult business.

CJ, TGP, Freesites, Paysites, Content Providing, AVS, even Gallery Posting.

Your right there my friend. I just never been a big fan of beating the surfer over the head

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Ludedude · 01-04-2002, 05:03 PM

Check out the Soviet board at adultwebmasterinfo.com They have the whole deal on traffic trading.

As far as beating the surfer, I just let the thugcash guys do it for me...they take a reasonable percentage

Scootermuze · 01-05-2002, 12:17 PM

Some of these popup sites are tantamount with going to a mall and being grabbed by the arm and pulled into each store.. "Look at what we have!".. And dialers will probably be a thing of the past soon with all of the manipulating going on now.. As far as linking partners goes, they trade links with partners who may have something different to offer. Again, like going to the mall, but not being grabbed by the arm. If you don't like one store's offering, there are other stores right there to visit if you wish.

SonOfRage · 01-05-2002, 12:33 PM

I like those analogies of traffic trading being like a mall or several linked casinos.

01-03-2002, 06:17 AM	#1
Pathfinder theking of trailer parks Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tehachapi, California Posts: 2,290	What Is The Point: Before I quit the business and began anew, among other sites, I operated a TGP for about a year. I touched upon trading traffic for a short period of time. I did not seem to get an influx of traffic or an increase in sales so I dropped it. I never did like the use of a blind link in the first place. Upon reflection it seems to me that trading traffic is circular and the same traffic is being pushed from one trading partner to the next. This may drive up your hit counters, but what is the point of pushing the same traffic around? Is the point much like a CJ site; piss off the surfer from being misled by blind links so that he will signup for a paysite? Maybe some of you will take the time to educate me about the benefits of trading traffic, and also the downside of trading traffic. Thanks ------------------ XXXGalore-Megasite.Net Adult Surfer Forum

01-03-2002, 11:45 AM	#2
Pathfinder theking of trailer parks Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tehachapi, California Posts: 2,290	I posted this yesterday under Webmaster Q & Fuckin' A and did not get a response. I guess I no education for me. ------------------ XXXGalore-Megasite.Net Adult Surfer Forum

01-03-2002, 11:55 AM	#3
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	What? Huh? Did you get sand in your vagina? Why?? Cuz its how the business is run. How do you fix it? I dunno man...get some $ & slang it around till u got some CJ friends..then kindly ask them to stop. Thats how our politicians work...why not our biz

01-04-2002, 12:49 AM	#5
Pathfinder theking of trailer parks Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tehachapi, California Posts: 2,290	Exxotica: Thanks for the input. ------------------ XXXGalore-Megasite.Net Adult Surfer Forum

01-04-2002, 01:34 AM	#6
UnseenWorld Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 5,279	I think the Internet sex business is unique in that businesses that are supposedly in competition cooperate with each other and send each other traffic. I wonder if this could eventually run afoul of antitrust laws designed to promote competition (which implies thwarting cooperation)? ------------------ Check out the new content at Wonders of the Unseen World

01-04-2002, 01:40 AM	#7
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,295	what exxxotica sed...

01-04-2002, 01:43 AM	#8
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,295	unseenworld; this is seen in many instances in real mainstream business... one case in point, Las Vegas.... The casinos link to each other with the crosswalks and whatnot, they will swap traffic as if it were adult traffic, someoen doesnt like your casino, let them go to the next, and keep walkin until they like something, and the casino you sent your uninterested person to, perhaps he will have an uninterested person in his casino that will like yours better =-)

01-04-2002, 03:46 PM	#9
Martin "Assassins" Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: At home Posts: 17,277	CJ Traffic is crap. You think by pissing the surfer off he's going to use his credit card on your site? Not likely.. That's why these UCJ sites and CJ sites have to resort to using dialers making them look like free movies and TheHun gets paid thousands of dollars monthly to have banners and galleries put on his site... ------------------ Sarcastic-Bastards TGP/Newbie Form

01-04-2002, 05:03 PM	#12
Ludedude Suck it! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Who wants to know? Posts: 4,432	Check out the Soviet board at adultwebmasterinfo.com They have the whole deal on traffic trading. As far as beating the surfer, I just let the thugcash guys do it for me...they take a reasonable percentage

01-05-2002, 12:17 PM	#13
Scootermuze Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 4,513	Some of these popup sites are tantamount with going to a mall and being grabbed by the arm and pulled into each store.. "Look at what we have!".. And dialers will probably be a thing of the past soon with all of the manipulating going on now.. As far as linking partners goes, they trade links with partners who may have something different to offer. Again, like going to the mall, but not being grabbed by the arm. If you don't like one store's offering, there are other stores right there to visit if you wish.

01-05-2002, 12:33 PM	#14
SonOfRage Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: You have a cute daughter, mind if I jack? Posts: 632	I like those analogies of traffic trading being like a mall or several linked casinos.