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GatorB 04-10-2005 03:45 PM

In 5 billion years when the sun's lifecycle is almost over it will grow into a red giant and it will expand out to the orbit or Mars so the Earth is toast. Then when the sun finally dies what's left of the Earth( if anything ) will orbit a cold dead star.

Myst 04-10-2005 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BoNgHiTtA
Damn even then they knew rednecks would need to play NASCAR simulator on the home PC.

hahahahahahahaha

blackmonsters 04-10-2005 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BVF
How do YOU know that? When was your last trip to outer space?



From your original theory, the body should "re-assemble" itself under water since the "gravity" of water pushes shit back together to fill this so called "void" you were talking about.

First; there is no void in the earth's ocean as I propose is in space.
But if I could create a void in the ocean that could only be filled by matter other than the ocean then the dudes ass and all it's pieces would be pressed into this void. I already said that the World Trade Center will not reassemble. I state that the matter that formed it will return to the general area of earth. The void is not in the ocean in this analogy but rather it is on the shore.

The ocean is not a model of space, it is just being used to relate some similar properties.

The void and pressure thing when relating to water is like the big bubble in the water taking up smaller bubbles around it to form a even bigger bubble.

Surley you can imagine what would happen if you were swimming in the sea when a 10,000 foot radius air bubble appeared beneath you.
You would fucking fall into that void and also shit in your swim trunks.

Nismo 04-10-2005 04:05 PM

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BVF 04-10-2005 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters
First; there is no void in the earth's ocean as I propose is in space.

Actually you're wrong since nothing touches anything else. No "matter" is really solid it's just TIGHTLY CLUMPED particles bound by energy...So that big ass ocean full of water is full of a bunch of water molecules that are not actually touching each other...

And if you want to use another analogy, (like you love to use), What about a big mountain in the middle of the ocean? Isn't that like a planet in the middle of space?

We could go on and on and back and forth with all kinds of analogies and if this was Harvard and not GFY, we could.....but what it boils down to is that neither one of us, nor anybody on this board REALLY knows what it's all about. It's only theories...

Nismo 04-10-2005 04:06 PM

So, you went to college & got a degree in nuclear science or some shit, but you sell porn on the internet?

blackmonsters 04-10-2005 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CoolE
That actually made me laugh out loud!! Thank you! I needed a good laugh today!

Maybe you should go buy some baking soda and pour some vinegar in it; you might then start crying after realizing who stupid you are to not have done this 3rd grade level experiment already.

blackmonsters 04-10-2005 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Nismo
So, you went to college & got a degree in nuclear science or some shit, but you sell porn on the internet?

I claimed I was smart; I never claimed I wasn't horny. :1orglaugh

cyber_ninja 04-10-2005 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by killshot
Ok.. i found a huge flaw in your theory

If gravity is a push.. then when you go underground... you will be weightless because the ground above you is blocking the gravity.

only... that doesnt happen.

lol,thats like saying if you go on the roof of your house you will fly away because your house is blocking gravity.

e-god 04-10-2005 04:18 PM

interesting read

biskoppen 04-10-2005 04:22 PM

BlackMonsters please contact me.. wanna discuss another theory with you

ICQ : 30898463

blackmonsters 04-10-2005 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by biskoppen
BlackMonsters please contact me.. wanna discuss another theory with you

ICQ : 30898463

I don't do ICQ.

spill it here on the board so the rest of gfy can kill us. :1orglaugh

Triple 6 04-10-2005 05:05 PM

BM, whats your thoughts on string theory, gravitons, 11 dimensions, branes, etc?

biskoppen 04-10-2005 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters
I don't do ICQ.

spill it here on the board so the rest of gfy can kill us. :1orglaugh

hehe, most people likes to live inside the box.. going to work .. picking up the children .. watching TV .. go to sleep

Your theory is "funny" .. what energy is pushing all the matter so all the matter pushes the earth?

About the other theory I started this thread : http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=454374

It's just the classic matrix one .. which I like alot

biskoppen 04-10-2005 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by .?.
Surface and MASS are two entirely different things, you silly monkey!

hehe, yeah.. it kinda makes it hard to explain black holes

smack 04-10-2005 05:32 PM

that might be plausible in a vacum (and i don't mean vacum of space, i mean a system where no other forces are acting on the object in question), but in practicality that is silly. there are too many variables including the gravity from our close neighbors like the sun and the moon.

tungsten 04-10-2005 05:40 PM

some interesting points but i think its sheer imagination

nico-t 04-10-2005 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tungsten
some interesting points but i think its sheer imagination

based on......?
every theory is a good theory, simply cuz nobody knows.

blackmonsters 04-10-2005 05:55 PM

Bottom line here folks is that I came up with the theory and that's more than my critics can do.

But lets get to my basic claims and forget about earth exploding and all that.

My basic claim (theory) is that :

1. Space is a massive body with a mass of it's own.
2. Space does not exert a force it's force is merely it's weight.
3. Space does not roll like the sea but it's weight and pressure is similar in that going deep into it increases the pressure on a object.
4. This pressure deep in space in what creates gravity
5. Were are certainly deep in space because no motherfucker will ever see the top. :1orglaugh



Any reasonably intelligent person should be able to see that these 5 points are a much better explanation of gravity than the notion that every celestial body magically starts sucking shit into it like a magnet.

FelixFlow 04-10-2005 06:04 PM

you ignored someone's earlier question, about how do you explain high-tides & the moon correlation ?

blackmonsters 04-10-2005 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by biskoppen
hehe, yeah.. it kinda makes it hard to explain black holes

Oh really!!!!

No scientist yet has actually located the imploded star theorized to be the black hole. This tiny dot with the mass of a star is only a theory.

As I said there can be void in space like an air bubble in the sea that can't find the surface(notice I said air and not void!). The sea has no void because there is air in the bubble so the sea does not force an object into the bubble. But space does force objects into it's "bubble" because it's "bubble" is a true void of space.

A black hole may simply be a huge void that is at a very deep level of space.
The deeper into space the higher the pressure flows into the void.

Restated: A black hole is a void in space that is currrently trying to fill itself. When it becomes full it will have formed a new galaxy.

But on the side of the star theory; an imploded star of incredible magnitude would infact create this void. But it is the void and not the star that pulls objects in.


MY SHIT IS FLAWLESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wargames 04-10-2005 06:25 PM

I'm just wondering why are there people obsessed with ending the world?

Repetitive Monkey 04-10-2005 06:27 PM

I think that is an interesting idea in that it is original, and it is nice to know that there are still people who like to try to think outside of the box.

Unfortunately though your theory is not correct and you can disprove it in a series of ways. For example, weighting equal amounts of mass with different amounts of exposed surface area.

blackmonsters 04-10-2005 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FelixFlow
you ignored someone's earlier question, about how do you explain high-tides & the moon correlation ?

Dude, there is no reason for waves to be created by the moon.
That's a interesting theory but consider that the earth is moving.

Move a glass of fucking water and look at the wave.....weeeeeeeeee!!!!!!

Still yet; there is such a thing as perpetual motion : meaning that even if all the water on earth was absolutley still at a point in time it would only take a minor rumble beneath the earth to start the seas in motion forever.

Also there is wind that can push small waves and make them bigger and even huge tidal waves. Hurricances don't give a fucking shit about the moon when they whip up the sea.

I don't think anybody in Thailand is blaming the moon for that fucking tsunami.

FelixFlow 04-10-2005 07:07 PM

that explaination is weak dude

Repetitive Monkey 04-10-2005 07:14 PM

You still believe in it? Another "indication" of a pull instead of a push as you describe it is the fact that I am not weightless in spite of sitting in a house with a roof (as much as I'd want to :)).

Myst 04-10-2005 07:14 PM

i cannot believe this dipshit is for real

hey buddy, go conquer highschool first before making stupid theories

do you know what happens when one asteroid moving at a few thousand miles an hour collides with another?
heres a hint

the debris created doesnt spontaneously come back together

blackmonsters 04-10-2005 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Repetitive Monkey
I think that is an interesting idea in that it is original, and it is nice to know that there are still people who like to try to think outside of the box.

Unfortunately though your theory is not correct and you can disprove it in a series of ways. For example, weighting equal amounts of mass with different amounts of exposed surface area.

Unfortunately you didn't read page two of this post where I explained this in full.

Once again; here's the short version:

Balls on the drum head...
The ball with the heaviest mass makes a deeper impression on the drum head meaning the drum head has more tension on that ball than the others.
The drum head is consistant yet it applies more pressure to the heavy ball.
The drum head is the weight of space the ball is the planet; the tension around the ball is gravity and if you move a small ball next to the bigger ball the tension from the big ball pulls the small ball toward it in a collision.



Go back and read it again and see where I also explain orbits and solar systems.

NetRodent 04-10-2005 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters
1. Space is a massive body with a mass of it's own.

Where is all this mass that space is supposedly composed of?

Wouldn't its presence be detectable?

If its massive enough to hold planets together wouldn't it exert wicked friction on bodies moving through it?

Wouldn't it diffuse light from distant starts far more than the earths atmosphere would? Why doesn't the observed data support this?

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters
2. Space does not exert a force it's force is merely it's weight.

What does this even mean? Isn't an objects weight directly dependant upon the gravitation pull on that object?

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters
Any reasonably intelligent person should be able to see that these 5 points are a much better explanation of gravity than the notion that every celestial body magically starts sucking shit into it like a magnet.

Your five points don't even make sense. Your drum head analogy is the classic one used to support the conventional concept of how mass creates gravity.

TheDoc 04-10-2005 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters
Oh really!!!!

No scientist yet has actually located the imploded star theorized to be the black hole. This tiny dot with the mass of a star is only a theory.

As I said there can be void in space like an air bubble in the sea that can't find the surface(notice I said air and not void!). The sea has no void because there is air in the bubble so the sea does not force an object into the bubble. But space does force objects into it's "bubble" because it's "bubble" is a true void of space.

A black hole may simply be a huge void that is at a very deep level of space.
The deeper into space the higher the pressure flows into the void.

Restated: A black hole is a void in space that is currrently trying to fill itself. When it becomes full it will have formed a new galaxy.

But on the side of the star theory; an imploded star of incredible magnitude would infact create this void. But it is the void and not the star that pulls objects in.


MY SHIT IS FLAWLESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The energy from a black hole doesn't form another galaxy as once thought. Rather they emit small particles of radiation (release of energy) until they fully dissipated.

I can't remember the name of the guy that found this out but I do remember he is a paraplegic (wow) and has been expanding on the Newton / Einstein Theories.

blackmonsters 04-10-2005 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Myst
i cannot believe this dipshit is for real

hey buddy, go conquer highschool first before making stupid theories

do you know what happens when one asteroid moving at a few thousand miles an hour collides with another?
heres a hint

the debris created doesnt spontaneously come back together


Listen moron:

Planets are round just like a air bubble floating in the water.

Why is the air bubble round? Because the weight of the water pushes the air/gas with equal pressure from all sides. No way to form a square or triangle it has to be round.

Planets are formed from gases and they are round because the weight of space is pushing the gases with equal pressure on all sides.

This equal pressure on all sides is what is known as gravity.

Planets can only form in a void and any matter leaving the void must be replaced and that's why the gases from the exploded planet will reassemble in the exact same void. Forget about a fucking rock that flys out of reach.
Stupid motherfuckers think planets are made of rocks!!!
Some planets in other solor systems are 100% gas!!!

Your asteriod collision happens outside of a void and is therefore completely irrelevant to matter that will reassemble in a void.


So my initial contnetion is that if the earth vaporizes in an explosion those gases would be forced back into the void and compressed again into a planet. No, it will not be "Earth" as we know it; but it will be of the same matter as earth.
Matter cannot be destroyed it can only be transfered.

CDSmith 04-10-2005 07:42 PM

Since everything in space is weightless, the whole theory becomes empty-headed. It is quite simply a theory that can't be proven.

Tell you what, since we're on the subject of theories that can't be proven, I have one. Anyone wanna hear it?

Didn't think so.

Myst 04-10-2005 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters
Listen moron:

Planets are round just like a air bubble floating in the water.

Why is the air bubble round? Because the weight of the water pushes the air/gas with equal pressure from all sides. No way to form a square or triangle it has to be round.

Planets are formed from gases and they are round because the weight of space is pushing the gases with equal pressure on all sides.

This equal pressure on all sides is what is known as gravity.

Planets can only form in a void and any matter leaving the void must be replaced and that's why the gases from the exploded planet will reassemble in the exact same void. Forget about a fucking rock that flys out of reach.
Stupid motherfuckers think planets are made of rocks!!!
Some planets in other solor systems are 100% gas!!!

Your asteriod collision happens outside of a void and is therefore completely irrelevant to matter that will reassemble in a void.


So my initial contnetion is that if the earth vaporizes in an explosion those gases would be forced back into the void and compressed again into a planet. No, it will not be "Earth" as we know it; but it will be of the same matter as earth.
Matter cannot be destroyed it can only be transfered.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
have you even completed elementary school?
oh dear god this post brought a tear to my eye

you think the earth is filled with gas? fucking pick up a god damn science book designed for kids in grade 4 for fuck sakes. earth is not a 'gas giant' like jupiter

as if that statement wasnt stupid enough.. you go on to amaze me more by saying that gravity is the space pushing on matter. are you really that dense? please tell me youre kidding. because if this was true, then the gravity on all planets of all sizes and masses would be the same, since the pressure that space exerts is the same for everything

learn the concept of gravitational fields - how one mass 'knows' another mass is around causing an attactive force. it works similar to magnetic fields, but is much much much weaker. seriously, finish high school, then make theories

CoolE 04-10-2005 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters
Take two inert chemicals such as baking soda and vineger. They do nothing by themselves; but combine them and a bubbly life is produced.

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Originally Posted by coolegg
That actually made me laugh out loud!! Thank you! I needed a good laugh today!

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters
Maybe you should go buy some baking soda and pour some vinegar in it; you might then start crying after realizing who stupid you are to not have done this 3rd grade level experiment already.

Stop it! You're killing me with the laughter! It all reminds me of the "Sea-men" South Park episode.

Exactly what form of "bubbly life" (God, even that phrase is funny! You are my new favorite GFY moron!) do you think is created by mixing acetic acid, water and sodium bicarbonate? Does this created life form have a name?

blackmonsters 04-10-2005 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NetRodent
Where is all this mass that space is supposedly composed of?

That's like asking me where is the mass in our atmosphere.
Compress earths atmosphere into a container and it's weight will be
tons upon tons!!

Don't assume space has no density just because you cannot measure it.

Calculus: Axium: ((zero times infinity = 1)) --
This states that if you assume a part of space has density of Zero then it's total density would be Zero times it number of parts. Well since the number of parts of space is fucking INFINITY; that equates to Zero times infinity which equals 1 fucking full unit of density which is it's fucking weight!!

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Originally Posted by NetRodent
Wouldn't its presence be detectable?

Yes, and when you jump off a building and smash to the fucking ground you will have detected it.

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Originally Posted by NetRodent
If its massive enough to hold planets together wouldn't it exert wicked friction on bodies moving through it?

Ah, the lower the density the higher the speed needed to create friction.
That flame on the ass end of a comet may indicate it has achieved this speed.

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Originally Posted by NetRodent
Wouldn't it diffuse light from distant starts far more than the earths atmosphere would? Why doesn't the observed data support this?

Yeah, that's why your eyes don't fucking burn out when looking at the stars!!


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Originally Posted by NetRodent
What does this even mean? Isn't an objects weight directly dependant upon the gravitation pull on that object?

Weight is a term I used to describe pressure; pressure does not require weight.
pressure can be created in huge amounts on a balloons surface without the balloon or the gas inside weighing any fucking thing. Just put your face on the surface of a big balloon that weighs only 1 ounce and let me pop it with a needle; then tell that you don't feel like you got punched in the face.


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Originally Posted by NetRodent
Your five points don't even make sense. Your drum head analogy is the classic one used to support the conventional concept of how mass creates gravity.

Well, that's because you're stupid

Ok...no flame; but bare with me...I'm getting hit from all sides with equal pressure and have formed into a ball.

blackmonsters 04-10-2005 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Repetitive Monkey
You still believe in it? Another "indication" of a pull instead of a push as you describe it is the fact that I am not weightless in spite of sitting in a house with a roof (as much as I'd want to :)).

Using your logic: Duh, If I take my scale down into the subway I will weigh more because I'm closer to the pull of the center of the earth...duh...
people who live below sea level weigh tons...duh

Duh...also...if my plane is crashing I will just jump out right before it hits the ground and nothing will happen to me...hehehehe!

jamesonxx 04-10-2005 08:20 PM

you're really quite a genuirs dude thanks

blackmonsters 04-10-2005 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith
Since everything in space is weightless, the whole theory becomes empty-headed. It is quite simply a theory that can't be proven.

Tell you what, since we're on the subject of theories that can't be proven, I have one. Anyone wanna hear it?

Didn't think so.

Let's see. I can float in space and that means I'm "weightless" but when I float in the water I still weigh the same. :1orglaugh

Myst 04-10-2005 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Myst
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
have you even completed elementary school?
oh dear god this post brought a tear to my eye

you think the earth is filled with gas? fucking pick up a god damn science book designed for kids in grade 4 for fuck sakes. earth is not a 'gas giant' like jupiter

as if that statement wasnt stupid enough.. you go on to amaze me more by saying that gravity is the space pushing on matter. are you really that dense? please tell me youre kidding. because if this was true, then the gravity on all planets of all sizes and masses would be the same, since the pressure that space exerts is the same for everything

learn the concept of gravitational fields - how one mass 'knows' another mass is around causing an attactive force. it works similar to magnetic fields, but is much much much weaker. seriously, finish high school, then make theories

answer please dipshit
you need to understand
1) gravitational fields
2) mass vs weight
3) air pressure
4) junior high level science

Doctor Dre 04-10-2005 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BoNgHiTtA
God damn boy, you have smoked yourself retarded.

:winkwink: :winkwink:

smoked ? Probably Special K or something like that


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