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Old 04-08-2005, 03:57 PM   #1
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rtoine - askjolene, dns cache poisoning ?

Mr. Toine Verheul from wise guys and askjolene?
Sir, your askjolene work with algorithms is impressive but indeed a far cry from google-like as boasted.

Algorithms is not the theme of my inquery. I'm inquiring with with respect to your involvement with dns cache poisoning.

http://home.wanadoo.nl/meilof/

1 - Why were you approched with this?

2 - With your knowledge and expertise, how couldn't you know in advance the intrest was dns cache spoofing?

3 - Remotely? It's always intriguing how a individual with your expertise remotely induldges in a project knowing it's highly illegal.
Why didn't you refuse to participate?

4 - An assumption;
Is meilof *the wanadoo.nl subscriber* in fact erwin - *Mefo on the gfy forum*, askjolene's marketing exec?
If so, it's facinating how some cherish articals based on a colleagues indulgence with illegal activity.

5 - Is the illegal use of traffic controllers (modified) being used to direct clicks to askjolene's paying campain holders?
Possibly this is the basis for the many useless clicks experienced by frustrated non converting webmasters?

Please do not disappoint me as askjolene colleague justsexx managed to accomplish earlier.

A response to the published artical featuring you and askjolene is expected.
Perhaps none of this happened. Maybe someone used your name without you knowing?
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Old 04-10-2005, 03:54 PM   #2
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Paul I missed this thread, just saw it so let me answer.

DNS spoofing is not in our interest, the traffic is useless and the activities are illegal.
We were approached by a person that wants to sell us this kind of traffic and decided to go after it and see how it works after this a friend of us wanted to pubklish an articel about this.

The site you mention is not "mefo", erwin's site and Justsexxx doesn't for for us, he works for diesel as all know.
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Old 04-10-2005, 04:25 PM   #3
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Damn....... Mike has answered your questions/replies in several threads already and still you find it necesarry to make a new thread about this?

get a life, move on Paul, go shoot some content, do something usefull
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Old 04-10-2005, 06:51 PM   #4
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Damn....... Mike has answered your questions/replies in several threads already and still you find it necesarry to make a new thread about this?

get a life, move on Paul, go shoot some content, do something usefull
Nobody expects you to know the times of creation of a 3 thread saga.

This thread was created before the other 2 threads so it's not a repeat.

This thread was clearly missed by Mr. Schwalbach and rtoine for 2 days untill just discovered.

Thank you for pointing this out to us Mr. nickbaauw even though you are 2 days late. One would figure a members having 4000 posts would have some sort of idea what has happened.

Mr. Schwalbach and I are both aware of what has transpired.


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Old 04-10-2005, 06:53 PM   #5
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god, this is getting old
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Old 04-10-2005, 06:57 PM   #6
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Paul I missed this thread, just saw it so let me answer.

DNS spoofing is not in our interest, the traffic is useless and the activities are illegal.
We were approached by a person that wants to sell us this kind of traffic and decided to go after it and see how it works after this a friend of us wanted to pubklish an articel about this.

The site you mention is not "mefo", erwin's site and Justsexxx doesn't for for us, he works for diesel as all know.
Belive this thread was created before the other 2. What page did you discover it on? Must have been located on page 15?

Indeed very true Mr. Schwalbach, spoofed traffic is useless.

Hypothetically speaking;

If the traffic are individuals in search of christianity sites and are redirected to pornography sites, *via dns cache spoofing* wouldn't you agree that would be difficult to convert?

The coincidence of the many that found unsatisfactory results compaired to the ones that are satisifed is starting to level off. It's difficult to believe that your clients have suddenly discovered a way to properly use the correct key words in such a short time.

I am still not completly convinced askjolene hasn't induldged itself in dns cache spoofing. You being in the online traffic business with your companies ceo involved with dns cache spoofing is far to coincidentally for my taste.
I am sure many agree with my side while others feel your explaination and denyal is acceptable.

Not sure of your businesses structure but must say askjolenes ceo Toine Verheul should be a silent partner. You have to admint Mr. Schwalbach if this dns cache spoofing episode was discovered by silent others in the past, the amount of revenue lost to your company could be staggering.
Seems Mr. Verheul displays a pattern of unethical involvement and perhaps in the best intrest of your company he needs to be leashed.
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Old 04-10-2005, 07:18 PM   #7
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god, this is getting old
Amen.............
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Old 04-10-2005, 10:54 PM   #8
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we posted the article ourselves (is in dutch) we have nothing to hide

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=425828
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