Is 4 months revenue good selling price? - GoFuckYourself.com

khy · 04-08-2005, 07:23 AM

Besides being tied up by a new mainstream business, my wife and I want to adopt and want to get rid of biz beforehand... so we are letting both our corps go w/ minimum selling price less than 6 months revenue... and due to Ibill fiasco, tons of room for major short term growth.

Starting with revenue... The following accounts for the majority of the revenue. There is currently ~ $1500 / month in other revenue (sponsor programs and old innuity account)

Ibill: Nov 2004 - 1449 @ 23,090.55
Ibill: Dec 2004 - 1,167 @ $19,118.00
Ibill: Jan 2005 - 1,160 @ $19,220.03
Ibill: Feb 2005 - 298 @ $4,740.94
Ibill: March 2005 - 58 @ $984.00

Epoch: Feb 2004 - 432 @ $6,189.80
Epoch: March 2004 - 675 @ $9,213.60

We cancelled all our Ibill subscribers in February and got some to move over to Epoch, but only a small percentage. Most of the Epoch $ are from new subscribers, so rebill base has a lot of growth potential.

We have active affiliates that have started moving over to Epoch as well, so that is helping growth.

Corporations:
Alliance Net, Inc.
Kodiak Entertainment, Inc.
(both Florida corps)

Domain names includes (most, if not all are developed):
38ddblonde.com
boobieindex.com
brunetteamateurs.com
bustybunny.com
bustynoelle.com
cateyes.com
eroticsilk.com
hiddendoor.com
justadoll.com
keg2000.com
lustylatina.net
naughtyabigail.com
noelles-hotbods.com
noelleshotbods.com
perfectgirl.com
roxyspantyraid.com
sexy-anne.com
sexy-noelle.com
sexynoelle.com
sexynoelle.net
softkisses.com
stockingsandheels.com
thehiddendoor.com
thenextdoorgirls.com
top100bikini.com
virtualsorority.com

achost.com
alex4sex.com
alexisdream.com
all4amateurs.com
amateurpartner.com
angelique.net
anitakiss.com
aussiebabe.com
balloongals.com
balloonvixens.com
bigboobalicious.com
bigboobtube.com
bodaciousbabbette.com
bulgingbras.com
bustybiker.com
carols-secret.com
chestytreasures.com
chicflixxx.com
cindylegs.com
elviranaked.com
ericakiss.com
eroticballoons.com
eviltwin.net
famousamateurs.com
famouswebcams.com
gothicgoddess.com
gulfcoastbabes.com
haleyhills.com
harmonyhunter.com
hollyheartbreak.com
julietemple.com
kinkylist.com
kittykennedy.com
lacy3x.com
lacysgirls.com
lisalovexxx.com
melonymelons.com
misti.net
myfirstsexsite.com
nadianaked.com
naughtykiana.com
nekkidgirls.com
nikitta.com
nodicksinmychics.com
passionpeaks.com
playperscrew.com
poppingpregos.com
pregnantlovin.com
sabrah.net
sabrinayoung.com
samanthasmilz.com
sexpaige.com
sexycherie.com
sexykrista.com
shanestorm.com
sweetecstasy.com
sweetsonya.com
sweetsophia.com
tabathajordan.com
tabithajordan.com
taija.net
teencutie.com
teenlesbo.com
vanitysmirror.com
vintagelovers.com

The following 3 domains specifically excluded along with any content, regardless of domain it is located on, of Princess and Katrina.
lesbiandream.com
18princess.com
balloonprincess.com

Content is all licenses or produced in house w/ model releases on file.
We have original, unedited content cds and tapes on a lot of our in house content, but may not have all from over the years.

Almost all our licenses and original content is posted, but there is still a little of both that is not released.

Traffic: All hard trades and tgps. Also, tabathajordan.com, hollyheartbreak.com, sweetecstasy.com and bulgingbras.com show nearly 5000 search engine clicks per week just from those sites.
Our servers combined push a pretty consistent 3 megabit, so we've got some traffic moving....

Expenses:
Under $4k / month for hosting and leased content

More details on request at [email protected]
Minimum asking price: $45,000 (~ 4 months gross)

Khy

Theo · 04-08-2005, 07:28 AM

you should request selling price based on profits, not gross

adonthenet · 04-08-2005, 07:31 AM

Hell yeah exactly what im looking for, Emailing you now

Nysus · 04-08-2005, 07:33 AM

Yeah, 8-12 months worth of profits is usual standard; it depends on a lot though, example being that you might have some domains that someone really likes, or the fact that you say revenues can be increased again easily, would make it legitimate to ask for a higher price than the 8-12 month mark would set the sale price to.. Long sentence, but hope you get my points.

Good luck...

Matt

khy · 04-08-2005, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

you should request selling price based on profits, not gross

OK! One year's profits then is usually a minimum starting point.... so $60,000 please!

MandyBlake · 04-08-2005, 07:35 AM

good luck on your adoption and new projects.

khy · 04-08-2005, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nysus

or the fact that you say revenues can be increased again easily, would make it legitimate to ask for a higher price than the 8-12 month mark would set the sale price to..

Matt

Revenue should easily get back up near $15k, if not to $20k again. Hell, we haven't been actively marketing for nearly 2 years... should be able to get us back up to 30 or 40K...

The more responses, the more I think I should raise the price.

adonthenet · 04-08-2005, 07:38 AM

khy please answer to my email
**no affilate program setup with it? no affilates?

khy · 04-08-2005, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adonthenet

khy please answer to my email
**no affilate program setup with it? no affilates?

You've got mail.

Ibill affiliates were emailed and starting signing up to promote in March. Only $700 in March was from affiliates... this revenue is growing rapidly and should be around $5k relatively quick.

adonthenet · 04-08-2005, 07:57 AM

thanks.

Pete-KT · 04-08-2005, 08:05 AM

I sent you an email

4Pics · 04-08-2005, 08:19 AM

Epoch: Feb 2004 - 432 @ $6,189.80
Epoch: March 2004 - 675 @ $9,213.60

Where are $$$'s from Epoch in Jan, Feb, March of 2005? 2004 doesn't help anyone at all.

adonthenet · 04-08-2005, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4Pics

Epoch: Feb 2004 - 432 @ $6,189.80
Epoch: March 2004 - 675 @ $9,213.60

Where are $$$'s from Epoch in Jan, Feb, March of 2005? 2004 doesn't help anyone at all.

WOW didnt saw this!

Nicky · 04-08-2005, 08:22 AM

where is Trax?

Methodcash Rick · 04-08-2005, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khy

The following 3 domains specifically excluded along with any content, regardless of domain it is located on, of Princess and Katrina.
lesbiandream.com
18princess.com
balloonprincess.com

You say that everything is included, except these 3 domains & content asociated with them, so that make me wonder, how much of the gross numbers you posted, are generated by these 3 domains.. If it's a significant portion, then we would need to see the numbers without these 3 above listed domains included in the numbers...

khy · 04-08-2005, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4Pics

Epoch: Feb 2004 - 432 @ $6,189.80
Epoch: March 2004 - 675 @ $9,213.60

Where are $$$'s from Epoch in Jan, Feb, March of 2005? 2004 doesn't help anyone at all.

From 2004, we were running about $2k / month in old rebill processing at Epoch. We starting moving some new sales again to Epoch in Dec and made the full move (all our sites) to Epoch in Feb, 2005.

Full stats can be made available to serious buyers. The point is we did not have significant Epoch processing before Ibill went defunct, so the business at Epoch is primarily new business that is being rebuilt from scratch (but from an old, established business that did significant volume with Ibill)...

khy · 04-08-2005, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB-Rick

You say that everything is included, except these 3 domains & content asociated with them, so that make me wonder, how much of the gross numbers you posted, are generated by these 3 domains.. If it's a significant portion, then we would need to see the numbers without these 3 above listed domains included in the numbers...

Insignificant numbers. They are being excluded because they are family.
Actual numbers to serious inquiries.

Pete-KT · 04-08-2005, 08:36 AM

something smells fishy why are the epoch stats for 2004?

khy · 04-08-2005, 08:38 AM

Please post additional questions in thread or to my email: [email protected]

I am heading out for most of the day and will answer all late tonight.

Just note as well, we 've been in business since 1997, so we are established. I am not a fly by night, throw up some sites and try to sell them guy. You WILL make your money back on this deal. CAKE

Also, we have a note from Ibill for $75k... might not ever see it, but buyer will be buying any remaining debt and may get a landfall one day.

Answers to all upcoming questions later tonight....

khy · 04-08-2005, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete-KT

something smells fishy why are the epoch stats for 2004?

typo ... 2005

screen shots to serious buyers
later tonight... out for a few hours.

khy · 04-08-2005, 04:31 PM

Back in for the evening.

Will be getting to the email questions shortly. Any further questions can also be posted here and I will get to them tonight if possible.

Thanks for the emails.

goldman · 04-08-2005, 08:38 PM

the problem with selling internet businesses is that because of few most people are very skeptical... my adivse to get rid of th fears is to promise to hold the money in a trust for say 1-2 months and if everything goes well the seller gets his money otherwise.. u need to check ur lawyers..

04-08-2005, 07:23 AM	#1
khy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 135	Is 4 months revenue good selling price? Besides being tied up by a new mainstream business, my wife and I want to adopt and want to get rid of biz beforehand... so we are letting both our corps go w/ minimum selling price less than 6 months revenue... and due to Ibill fiasco, tons of room for major short term growth. Starting with revenue... The following accounts for the majority of the revenue. There is currently ~ $1500 / month in other revenue (sponsor programs and old innuity account) Ibill: Nov 2004 - 1449 @ 23,090.55 Ibill: Dec 2004 - 1,167 @ $19,118.00 Ibill: Jan 2005 - 1,160 @ $19,220.03 Ibill: Feb 2005 - 298 @ $4,740.94 Ibill: March 2005 - 58 @ $984.00 Epoch: Feb 2004 - 432 @ $6,189.80 Epoch: March 2004 - 675 @ $9,213.60 We cancelled all our Ibill subscribers in February and got some to move over to Epoch, but only a small percentage. Most of the Epoch $ are from new subscribers, so rebill base has a lot of growth potential. We have active affiliates that have started moving over to Epoch as well, so that is helping growth. Corporations: Alliance Net, Inc. Kodiak Entertainment, Inc. (both Florida corps) Domain names includes (most, if not all are developed): 38ddblonde.com boobieindex.com brunetteamateurs.com bustybunny.com bustynoelle.com cateyes.com eroticsilk.com hiddendoor.com justadoll.com keg2000.com lustylatina.net naughtyabigail.com noelles-hotbods.com noelleshotbods.com perfectgirl.com roxyspantyraid.com sexy-anne.com sexy-noelle.com sexynoelle.com sexynoelle.net softkisses.com stockingsandheels.com thehiddendoor.com thenextdoorgirls.com top100bikini.com virtualsorority.com achost.com alex4sex.com alexisdream.com all4amateurs.com amateurpartner.com angelique.net anitakiss.com aussiebabe.com balloongals.com balloonvixens.com bigboobalicious.com bigboobtube.com bodaciousbabbette.com bulgingbras.com bustybiker.com carols-secret.com chestytreasures.com chicflixxx.com cindylegs.com elviranaked.com ericakiss.com eroticballoons.com eviltwin.net famousamateurs.com famouswebcams.com gothicgoddess.com gulfcoastbabes.com haleyhills.com harmonyhunter.com hollyheartbreak.com julietemple.com kinkylist.com kittykennedy.com lacy3x.com lacysgirls.com lisalovexxx.com melonymelons.com misti.net myfirstsexsite.com nadianaked.com naughtykiana.com nekkidgirls.com nikitta.com nodicksinmychics.com passionpeaks.com playperscrew.com poppingpregos.com pregnantlovin.com sabrah.net sabrinayoung.com samanthasmilz.com sexpaige.com sexycherie.com sexykrista.com shanestorm.com sweetecstasy.com sweetsonya.com sweetsophia.com tabathajordan.com tabithajordan.com taija.net teencutie.com teenlesbo.com vanitysmirror.com vintagelovers.com The following 3 domains specifically excluded along with any content, regardless of domain it is located on, of Princess and Katrina. lesbiandream.com 18princess.com balloonprincess.com Content is all licenses or produced in house w/ model releases on file. We have original, unedited content cds and tapes on a lot of our in house content, but may not have all from over the years. Almost all our licenses and original content is posted, but there is still a little of both that is not released. Traffic: All hard trades and tgps. Also, tabathajordan.com, hollyheartbreak.com, sweetecstasy.com and bulgingbras.com show nearly 5000 search engine clicks per week just from those sites. Our servers combined push a pretty consistent 3 megabit, so we've got some traffic moving.... Expenses: Under $4k / month for hosting and leased content More details on request at [email protected] Minimum asking price: $45,000 (~ 4 months gross) Khy

04-08-2005, 07:33 AM	#4
Nysus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,817	Yeah, 8-12 months worth of profits is usual standard; it depends on a lot though, example being that you might have some domains that someone really likes, or the fact that you say revenues can be increased again easily, would make it legitimate to ask for a higher price than the 8-12 month mark would set the sale price to.. Long sentence, but hope you get my points. Good luck... Matt __________________ What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets See https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948258-untouchedmarkets-pr0-refund-money-post16744521.html and for more detailed see https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948645-re-recent-bullshit-drama-explained-detail-pr0-untouched-markets.html

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04-08-2005, 08:38 PM	#22
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04-08-2005, 07:28 AM	#2
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	you should request selling price based on profits, not gross

04-08-2005, 07:31 AM	#3
adonthenet Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,753	Hell yeah exactly what im looking for, Emailing you now

04-08-2005, 07:38 AM	#8
adonthenet Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,753	khy please answer to my email **no affilate program setup with it? no affilates?

04-08-2005, 07:57 AM	#10
adonthenet Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,753	thanks.

04-08-2005, 08:05 AM	#11
Pete-KT Workin With The Devil Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 51,532	I sent you an email

04-08-2005, 08:19 AM	#12
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	Epoch: Feb 2004 - 432 @ $6,189.80 Epoch: March 2004 - 675 @ $9,213.60 Where are $$$'s from Epoch in Jan, Feb, March of 2005? 2004 doesn't help anyone at all.

04-08-2005, 08:36 AM	#18
Pete-KT Workin With The Devil Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 51,532	something smells fishy why are the epoch stats for 2004?

04-08-2005, 08:38 AM	#19
khy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 135	Please post additional questions in thread or to my email: [email protected] I am heading out for most of the day and will answer all late tonight. Just note as well, we 've been in business since 1997, so we are established. I am not a fly by night, throw up some sites and try to sell them guy. You WILL make your money back on this deal. CAKE Also, we have a note from Ibill for $75k... might not ever see it, but buyer will be buying any remaining debt and may get a landfall one day. Answers to all upcoming questions later tonight....

04-08-2005, 04:31 PM	#21
khy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 135	Back in for the evening. Will be getting to the email questions shortly. Any further questions can also be posted here and I will get to them tonight if possible. Thanks for the emails.