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Old 12-30-2001, 10:43 PM   #1
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So, let's say a paysite has 2000 members....

What's it worth??

2000 members. Also, the traffic, and content (especially) must come into play.
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Old 12-30-2001, 10:53 PM   #2
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Huw much are they recurring at? Who is the processor? What is the niche? How much bandwidth are you going thru?
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Old 12-30-2001, 10:55 PM   #3
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Old 12-31-2001, 12:07 AM   #4
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Huw much are they recurring at? Who is the processor? What is the niche? How much bandwidth are you going thru?
recurring at 29.95 a pop. 50/50 program. Processor is ibill. Niche is teen. bw = about 20% of revenue.
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Old 12-31-2001, 12:53 AM   #5
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the seller would probably want 50k. i would buy it for 20
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Old 12-31-2001, 01:02 AM   #6
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I think the profit for 3-6 months is the going rate.
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Old 12-31-2001, 03:12 AM   #7
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recurring at 29.95 a pop. 50/50 program. Processor is ibill. Niche is teen. bw = about 20% of revenue.
well, ibill charges 15% to the program. you still have to pay out 50% before ibill fees.

so = 16800 on 2000 members, per month, assuming 20% bw costs.

still have to look at content and any other associated operating costs.

I have a paysite I have sort of considered selling. Over 10000 members @ 20 bucks a pop. No affiliate program (all traffic is produced inhouse). All the content is extemely high quality video, that we shoot ourselves, and all of it is exclusive to the site. and we have lots of it.

This site is focused on broadband, is growing *daily*, produces on average 170 sales per day (beyond recurring - again with no affiliate prog), etc. did i say our video is extremely high quality?

we also have a very large amount of daily traffic. i could never consider selling for even a measily 12 times monthly profit, and don't know why anyone would...

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Old 12-31-2001, 03:17 AM   #8
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I have a paysite I have sort of considered selling. Over 10000 members @ 20 bucks a pop. No affiliate program (all traffic is produced inhouse). All the content is extemely high quality video, that we shoot ourselves, and all of it is exclusive to the site. and we have lots of it.

This site is focused on broadband, is growing *daily*, produces on average 170 sales per day (beyond recurring - again with no affiliate prog), etc. did i say our video is extremely high quality?

we also have a very large amount of daily traffic. i could never consider selling for even a measily 12 times monthly profit, and don't know why anyone would...

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Stop talking so dirty, you are making my pussy wet.


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Old 12-31-2001, 03:19 AM   #9
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mrbrian you are on drugs dood...

ive got a site with 200 members id sell for 12k, how you gonna suggest someone sell a site with 2000 members for 50k?

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Old 12-31-2001, 03:33 AM   #10
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mrbrian you are on drugs dood...

ive got a site with 200 members id sell for 12k, how you gonna suggest someone sell a site with 2000 members for 50k?


What niche?
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Old 12-31-2001, 03:45 AM   #11
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Stop talking so dirty, you are making my pussy wet.
sounds like you aren't doing so bad yourself kmanrox - what's the story with that paysite?

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Old 12-31-2001, 04:16 AM   #12
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the seller would probably want 50k. i would buy it for 20
20K? Are you serious? 11K net profit in 1 month.
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Old 12-31-2001, 06:36 AM   #13
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Depends.

Lots of smart buyers will just buy your site,content and traffic not members.

Also avg rebill is 2-3 months unless you can prove different over a good period of time. No one will pay 100% as that would be foolish, maybe up to 70%.

Of course when all is said and done, it is worth what you can get for it.
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Old 12-31-2001, 07:07 AM   #14
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My paysite has 360 members and I make -$2,500.00 + per month.

I'll pay $1,000.00 if anyone wants to take them over.

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Old 12-31-2001, 07:31 AM   #15
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wanna know what its worth?
auction it. You'll get what people are willing to pay.
don't expect much. Everyone thinks what they own is worth so much.
It's not.
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Old 12-31-2001, 08:40 AM   #16
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Old 12-31-2001, 10:24 AM   #17
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Barry let me make sure i read this right your making negative two thousand five hundred dollars a month with 360 members?????

ok if yoiu wanna pay me $1k to take it over i think i can handle that
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Old 12-31-2001, 10:50 AM   #18
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Damn, I'll take that deal too. Pay me $1000 to take over your 360 members.
I have about the same amount of members but I sure make more that -$2500 a month.
What are you doing wrong ?

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Old 12-31-2001, 12:59 PM   #19
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Old 01-01-2002, 11:11 PM   #20
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Does anyone know of a good place to sell or auction developed pay sites? Would ebay be the only real option as far as auctions go?
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Old 01-02-2002, 12:41 AM   #21
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Looks like right here!
BV has got the bidding for Barry Porn's site
$1000 higher than his first offer.

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Old 01-02-2002, 02:29 AM   #22
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Does anyone know of a good place to sell or auction developed pay sites? Would ebay be the only real option as far as auctions go?
Anyone?
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Old 01-02-2002, 06:05 AM   #23
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www.edeal.com

or maybe a yahoo auction lol
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Old 01-02-2002, 01:17 PM   #24
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I have a paysite I have sort of considered selling. Over 10000 members @ 20 bucks a pop. No affiliate program (all traffic is produced inhouse). All the content is extemely high quality video, that we shoot ourselves, and all of it is exclusive to the site. and we have lots of it.

This site is focused on broadband, is growing *daily*, produces on average 170 sales per day (beyond recurring - again with no affiliate prog), etc. did i say our video is extremely high quality?

we also have a very large amount of daily traffic. i could never consider selling for even a measily 12 times monthly profit, and don't know why anyone would...

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Interesting post from Quiet. I can only assume that this means there's a big market for broadband users ... even though they're still supposed to be only a small percentage of surfers out there ...

Just out of curiousity, if I may ask, how much video content do you host on your site to maintain that kind of membership? Also, do you stream the video or allow customers to download it?

I produce my own videos for a small site I'm building and I'm always curious as to how the big boys do it ...

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Old 01-02-2002, 02:31 PM   #25
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Old 01-02-2002, 03:01 PM   #26
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wanna know what its worth?
auction it. You'll get what people are willing to pay.
don't expect much. Everyone thinks what they own is worth so much.
It's not.
Agreed, you can start your own. All the people that think their sites are worth all this money are wrong. Go try to sell them and see what you get. Welcome to the real world. Maybe in theory you wish they are worth all that "Big" money but you won't find anyone willing to pay, so in reality there not worth it.



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Old 01-03-2002, 01:06 AM   #27
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Agreed, you can start your own

So, where it the best place to sell a reasonably sucessful (2000 member) paysite? Putting it on ebay, I don't Get why anyone would bid without 3rd party confirmation of revenue and traffic, among other things. I would never do that myself, so I can't expect anyone else to? Anything else besides ebay? Any other ideas?
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Old 01-03-2002, 01:25 AM   #28
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mrbrian you are on drugs dood...

ive got a site with 200 members id sell for 12k, how you gonna suggest someone sell a site with 2000 members for 50k?
does your site use affiliates for traffic, how well does it convert, and how much is a membership? Also, is all traffic you are currently pushing to it included?

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Old 01-03-2002, 02:03 AM   #29
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How'bout a join venture plan. like selling in percentages. I don't have to risk hundreds of thousands of dollars and you probably make more selling it in pieces. I rather share IDEAS and RISKS with a few owners then all to myself. just an idea..) maybe too troublesome.
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