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Fletch XXX 04-06-2005 05:13 PM

also what are canadas laws like regarding bondage... anyone pushing bondage from canada?

some people like to tie people up or be tied up... but you have laws saying i cant even photograph myself being fucked while being tied up???

heard someone having trouble regarding bondage content on their laptop... this goes for U.S. as well.

bondage content is a target as well, just because YOU dont like it, doesnt mean shit.

i do

Matt Frackas 04-06-2005 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n
and these people tell me
"we are not catering to pedos, we are just doing the teen niche"

to me makin these girls look fucking 12 is not the teen niche. its border line sick. i dont give a FUCK how well it converts with what, i dont give a FUCK how much money it makes

you fucking know that your a step away from pedo shit, and you are catering to the people who want it.



I write commentary in my members area of Matt's Models.

Recently I wrote this if anybodys interested.

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TITLE: "Young Babe" sites.

I did a lot of research this week on the net and I thought I'd sort of vent about something real quick.

First of all, the amount of Free Porn out there is astronomical.
Secondly, there is 5 gazillion sites with models who make my models look like MILFS!

All this "making sites and models look underage" bullshit is starting to piss me off.

Let me explain that I am the first person to appreciate young looking, fresh girls and I realize that in other parts of the world, the legal age is lower than the USA..

However I DON'T believe in doing what many of these sites do:
Shooting in a way that emphasizes or implies that the girl is underage.
For example: Having the models ONLY wear pig tails, shoot only girls with braces, make stupid "Im sooo young" faces etc.
Also, marketing the site with copy and graphics *NORMALLY ASSSOCIATED* with underage girls....whether it be the color schemes, or copy about "My first day in school" and so on.

It has now dawned on me that the internet is breeding and molding thousands of "closet pedophiles".
Analogously as MTV dictates taste in Music, style and pop culture for young people, the net dictates what men SHOULD like in a woman.

One could argue that the net is only providing what people want to see; supply and demand. To some extent this is true, however it's a vicious cycle. Yes there is a demand, but then the marketers start honing that demand and INFLUENCING more people to understand and BUY that product.

Major companies don't spend billions of dollars on advertising because it DOESN'T work. Ads, magazines, TV, Radio and Movies DO INFLUENCE people and PERSUADE them to act a certain way.

With that said, I don't believe in curtailing the RIGHTS of producers/photographers/marketers to market as they see fit, as long as it's legal and with legal aged models/actors/performers. I do believe it's the responsiblity of the consumer not to get sucked into the trap.

I can also appreciate the beauty of youth (like a US legal age suspect female walking topless down the beach in France - which I have seen); or the books of renowned artistic nude photographers in Europe with their images of young women.

The difference for me is the relentless pursuit of playing up HOW YOUNG AND INNOCENT THE GIRL IS BY USING PROPS AND OTHER INSTRUMENTS AND IMPLYING OR OVERTLY STATING HER SEXUALLY PROMISCUOUS BEHAVIOR.

I'm not ever going to be involved in making some site/model look like some fuckin elementary school girl, I don't care if the model is 40.

It's just fuckin stupid.

- Matt

Alice22 04-06-2005 05:32 PM

I am taking pics for www.emily18.com

Emily come to Israel when she was 15 yo, alone?
She doing everything by her self, no help from parents.
And she is more mature than me, even if I am 6 years older.
So when I take her pics, I never think about the ?little girl look? ,but Ii know that she looks young, and I don?t have any problem with that.
I am not trying to make her look younger anymore ...no braces, no pigtails?
Just the way she is.
:)
sorry for my English

pornstar2pac 04-06-2005 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alice22
I am taking pics for www.emily18.com

Emily come to Israel when she was 15 yo, alone?
She doing everything by her self, no help from parents.
And she is more mature than me, even if I am 6 years older.
So when I take her pics, I never think about the ?little girl look? ,but Ii know that she looks young, and I don?t have any problem with that.
I am not trying to make her look younger anymore ...no braces, no pigtails?
Just the way she is.
:)
sorry for my English



have you shot Oracle porn yet? he's in Isreal. he just turned 17

Dopy 04-06-2005 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Frackas
I write commentary in my members area of Matt's Models.

Recently I wrote this if anybodys interested.

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TITLE: "Young Babe" sites.

bla bla bla

I'm not ever going to be involved in making some site/model look like some fuckin elementary school girl, I don't care if the model is 40.

It's just fuckin stupid.

- Matt


Nice to see you flying the Metart flag - The original home of pigtails and white socks

JulianSosa 04-06-2005 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alice22
I am taking pics for www.emily18.com

Emily come to Israel when she was 15 yo, alone?
She doing everything by her self, no help from parents.
And she is more mature than me, even if I am 6 years older.
So when I take her pics, I never think about the ?little girl look? ,but Ii know that she looks young, and I don?t have any problem with that.
I am not trying to make her look younger anymore ...no braces, no pigtails?
Just the way she is.
:)
sorry for my English

How old is she now and when those pics where taken?

eroswebmaster 04-06-2005 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dopy
Nice to see you flying the Metart flag - The original home of pigtails and white socks

Not to mention actual under age models.

Alice22 04-06-2005 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornstar2pac
have you shot Oracle porn yet? he's in Isreal. he just turned 17

LOL
Nope, i never meet him.

Only 17? He never come to hang out with us (israel webmaster comunity).
:)

sandman! 04-06-2005 05:51 PM

this thread is funny.

webmasters trying to convince other webmasters that legal content is wrong.

I have seen this argument for years but i guess some people will never change and will keep arguing.


LOL

Alice22 04-06-2005 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JulianSosa
How old is she now and when those pics where taken?

She will be 19 this summer , and her pics where taken when she turn on 18.

pornstar2pac 04-06-2005 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alice22
LOL
Nope, i never meet him.

Only 17? He never come to hang out with us (israel webmaster comunity).
:)



lol, I think he's 19. but he was very sexual active at a early age. Let me go find the thread.......

Fletch XXX 04-06-2005 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornstar2pac
lol, I think he's 19. but he was very sexual active at a early age. Let me go find the thread.......

please dont, no one even remembers the kid except you.

no one wants to read about oracle porn.

nico-t 04-06-2005 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX
what i dont get it.... this teen fantasy stuff is 100% legal.

However, you have people on this board who make money with Anal sex in the US... guess what, there were LAWS FORBIDDING it. whew,... glad they overturned that one.

http://www.sodomylaws.org/usa/usa.htm

fucking people are ridiculously uneducated.

go ahead, submit your anal gallery but oh no, dont take a picture of a girl with braces

:1orglaugh

another great example of the land of the free....

reynold 04-06-2005 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kapitan Ivanov II
I agree. The fantasy of pedophilia is just as sick as pedophilia itself.


That is so right. Never ever mess with kids unless you wanna be like Jacko.

Funky Bastard 04-06-2005 06:16 PM

Who care's you all are talking about something that is legal. You cant have any Morals in this business! Make yourself usefull find some real cp and report that shit if you care so much.

Alice22 04-06-2005 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornstar2pac
lol, I think he's 19. but he was very sexual active at a early age. Let me go find the thread.......

haha, i think i remember that :-))))))

Scootermuze 04-06-2005 06:37 PM

Doesn't matter who's looking at what.. or whether she is actually 18....

It all reloves around the, "Community standards" phrase... That's what lets judges do a slam dunk on what would otherwise be ok with perhaps a different state/court/judge..

MrJackMeHoff 04-06-2005 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat
so everyone who would hit emily 18 is a pedo ?

http://emily18.com/

Yes just got me a membership!

pornstar2pac 04-06-2005 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX
please dont, no one even remembers the kid except you.

no one wants to read about oracle porn.



trust me I'm not. whenever I hear Isareal, I think of Oracle porn being blow up on a local bus there

MrJackMeHoff 04-06-2005 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MickeyG
I'm pretty sure LadyMischief is correct about it being illegal to insinuate the model is underage. Just like you cant have an adult have sex with a minor in a movie its the same laws.

Not true and there are movies with adults having sex with pretend underage people, alot of them.

brand0n 04-06-2005 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett
Yep the name emily 18 really makes me think of underage girl.. Funny a guy that promotes illegal drug use is on GFY talking about morals. :error

why does weed.com keep comming up

where does a pro marijuana site and a pedo site find any common ground?

BVF 04-06-2005 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n
why does weed.com keep comming up

where does a pro marijuana site and a pedo site find any common ground?

Your site promotes an ILLEGAL substance while their site promotes a LEGAL product.

The only difference is that YOU think that it's immoral which really doesn't mean diddly in the whole scope of things and it makes this whole thread full of HYPOCRISY.

If you can't see it, you're blind...You can stand in the crowd and still think the Emperor has clothes on all you want but the muthafucka is naked.

BVF 04-06-2005 08:12 PM

Fuck...how many people say that they would NEVER pay to look at a crackhead?...I've been in business since 2000 and I get better every year with a WORLDWIDE loyal fan base....It's the same with this shit...The same people in here screaming "pedo" are the same people that have tents forming in their pants when they see emily18 and they want to go on a rampage to crucify someone else because they're too ashamed to admit it.

Matt Frackas 04-06-2005 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dopy
Nice to see you flying the Metart flag - The original home of pigtails and white socks


Yeah it sounds like you didn't read my argument thoroughly or you didn't understand it.

LOL

ULVideo 04-06-2005 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fake Nick
I think this thread is about teenrevenue.com not emlily18.com

I mean look at this shit

http://22yearoldtopanga.com/tour.html
http://trixietwenty.com/tour.html
http://www3.agingapril.com/tour.html



this shit is wrong ,

At least this time when someone "complained" about how young the girls on these sites looked, the links didn't have thier refcode in it.

ULVideo 04-06-2005 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by some webmaster
I can't believe it!!! This pedo site I've been promoting the hell out of has been shaving me!!!!!! Don't these people have any morals??????

12345678

wargames 04-07-2005 01:36 AM

Pedophiles make me sick.

jamesonxx 04-07-2005 02:30 AM

I hate pedos.

reynold 04-07-2005 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kapitan Ivanov II
I agree. The fantasy of pedophilia is just as sick as pedophilia itself.

that's very true

chodadog 04-07-2005 03:17 AM

I've replied to similar threads like this with what i'm about to say before, but it's worth repeating.

brand0n, you clearly do not understand what motivates a paedophile. It's not as simple as someone looking young. The fact that they are not young is a huge turn off to paedophiles. Merely mentioning on the front page of the website that the girl is 18 kills the fantasy (personally, i think they should make it far more clear that these girls are 18 though. Emily18.com makes it pretty clear just by the domain name obviously, and nearly all of the sites similar do mention it, but i think they should make it way more obvious in the text on the site). The fact that she's willingly participating in an adult website also negates the "innocent" appeal. Sure, these girls look young, and they are petite, but they are clearly physically developed. They have adult bodies.

Paedophiles are looking for undeveloped bodies. These chicks are developed. They do look quite young in their facial features but that is generally as far as it goes.
Paedophiles are looking for innocent kids. These chicks are willingly featured in their very own adult website.
Paedophiles are looking for KIDS. These websites do mention that these chicks are over the age of 18. (And again, i think they should make it more clear, but even what they have would be enough to turn off a pedo)

This thread and others like it is nothing but an ignorant knee jerk reaction to a subject few people are genuinely care about.

Mikey_219Inc 04-07-2005 03:33 AM

a lot of full of shit hypocrites in here. why the fuck do you think guage was so popular? this is not cp. it doesnt give me wood, becuase i know most girls dont know what the hell they are doing until they are at least mid 20's ... but i can understand the appeal - and i do NOT believe it is making anyone a pedophile who is not predisposed to abusing children.

i encourage those of you who are repulsed by these sites to shut the fuck up and make a donation to the The National Center for Missing & Exploited Children ... otherwise shut up and dont bite the hand that feeds you ... these models have all signed releases, been paid, are of legal age, and the sites are converting like mofos ... so make some money from this legal, consentual shit ...

if you really want to help TRULY exploited people, put your money where your mouth is. some of you desk jockeys have no idea what kind of exploitation you are profiting from.

jtpornstar 04-07-2005 04:40 AM

Brandon:Too much hot air! (Could almost be classed as 'fake drama'). If you really cared, then make a stand. CCBill bill it, take it up with them. Call the cops, speak to your congressman! Or just post your spineless rant here, safe in the knowledge that equally spineless pussies will throw up their hands and add their shrill voices to your fake complaint. I should be truly impressed if any of those outraged actually did anything about it. So, as the instigator, why don't you start, and then keep us informed of your progress in the 'fight againgst perceived kiddie porn'.
PS Actually, I have no beef with anyone. But these same threads, throwing up the same infantile worldly view, can be alittle trying.

quiet 04-07-2005 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF
Fuck...how many people say that they would NEVER pay to look at a crackhead?...I've been in business since 2000 and I get better every year with a WORLDWIDE loyal fan base....It's the same with this shit...The same people in here screaming "pedo" are the same people that have tents forming in their pants when they see emily18 and they want to go on a rampage to crucify someone else because they're too ashamed to admit it.

if we ever meet i'm buying you a beer, or a bottle of dom.

have always liked your style.

Oracle Porn 04-07-2005 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alice22
LOL
Nope, i never meet him.

Only 17? He never come to hang out with us (israel webmaster comunity).
:)

hehe im not 17, and i was never invited ;)

Oracle Porn 04-07-2005 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alice22
I am taking pics for www.emily18.com

Emily come to Israel when she was 15 yo, alone?
She doing everything by her self, no help from parents.
And she is more mature than me, even if I am 6 years older.
So when I take her pics, I never think about the ?little girl look? ,but Ii know that she looks young, and I don?t have any problem with that.
I am not trying to make her look younger anymore ...no braces, no pigtails?
Just the way she is.
:)
sorry for my English

yo do you have an icq #?


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