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Fletch XXX 04-06-2005 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat
so everyone who would hit emily 18 is a pedo ?

http://emily18.com/

does this HONESTLY turn you on?

http://emily18.com/preview/63/DSC_0303.jpg

looks like a little boy.

pornstar2pac 04-06-2005 09:31 AM

Brandon, great thread. keep up the good work


mr saint

CashLikeWhoa_Mike 04-06-2005 09:35 AM

interesting thread.....interesting arguments on both sides

brand0n 04-06-2005 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by pornstar2pac
Brandon, great thread. keep up the good work


mr saint

ofcourse i did some shit in my past when i was a kid that im not proud of, but this is something completly diff you fucking idiot.

but seeing you love to bring that up, just for you pornstarfuckhead, i have a passport right now, everything ive ever done in my life i owned up 2. so what i beat the shit outta some stupid people when i was 18, big woop i sold some weed whe i was 19, i was a dumb kid, where im a 30 year old man now. do you have a fucking passport lol..

this isnt about me, its about an issue that is alot bigger then the idiot i beat up when i was 18 moron.

end result this is going to effect alot of people in this industry. ofcourse seeing you dont have any websites, or any traffic and arent really in this industry its not really a matter that would effect you. :thumbsup

eroswebmaster 04-06-2005 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyMischief
Pigtails in themselves are legal... but it's the SITUATION the girl is placed in... if you have a 30 year old woman in front of a mirror in pigtails and chewing bubblegum and she's in a context that indicates "underaged child" or is doing childlike activities (playing with dolls etc), in the majority of the states it is still considered CP even if the girl IS of age.. SHe could be 70 and this would still be the case... There are precidents in Florida and several other states, and convictions as well.. I will hunt up the info again, but if in doubt, you can always ask an attourney.

I could have sworn those laws were stricken down which in turn opened up the doors to simulated CP *e.g. photoshopped, anime, etc* etc being legal since no real child was hurt in the process.

whatif_3 04-06-2005 09:44 AM

brandon, pic a site and tell us what you would change to make the model appear clearly over-18. i dont disagree with you, but i think that in nearly all cases it is up to the interpretation of the viewer on whether the models appear over/under 18. what constitues looking under 18? braces, a schoolbus photo, pink walls, teddy bears, colored hair braids? can you have braces, a pink wall, and nothing else? do you need to photoshop wrinkes into your 18 year old models face? where the line is drawn is up to the viewer, pic the site that you were referring to and show us what you would change to make it acceptable in your eyes

whatif_3 04-06-2005 09:49 AM

btw, fletch, with regard to emily18, imo, the model looks young, thats it, what would you change to make her look over 18?...i would really think that you would be going the other way with this, the way that people naturally appear and all

Fletch XXX 04-06-2005 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by whatif_3
btw, fletch, with regard to emily18, imo, the model looks young, thats it, what would you change to make her look over 18?...i would really think that you would be going the other way with this, the way that people naturally appear and all

i didnt say anything about her age.

he mentioned having sex with that.

I said that it looks like a boy.

it does.

BradShaw 04-06-2005 09:51 AM

Like it or not, everyone is trying to copy the success of lightspeed.

cherrylula 04-06-2005 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster
I could have sworn those laws were stricken down which in turn opened up the doors to simulated CP *e.g. photoshopped, anime, etc* etc being legal since no real child was hurt in the process.

here is a good read on that.

http://www.p-loog.info/English/koi_35_laws_en.htm

Grapesoda 04-06-2005 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by brand0n
and these people tell me
"we are not catering to pedos, we are just doing the teen niche"

to me makin these girls look fucking 12 is not the teen niche. its border line sick. i dont give a FUCK how well it converts with what, i dont give a FUCK how much money it makes

you fucking know that your a step away from pedo shit, and you are catering to the people who want it.

and difference between doing that and the calvin klien ads is....?

Pleasurepays 04-06-2005 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bmb
and difference between doing that and the calvin klien ads is....?

the context.

Radical Rick 04-06-2005 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
the context.

LOL

the gilr already looks young, there is no need to emphasize with props.

robfantasy 04-06-2005 10:04 AM

ya most 18 year olds have the mind of a 15 year old

eroswebmaster 04-06-2005 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula

Thought so..thx for the link.

MrLuvr 04-06-2005 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by swedguy
ped·o·phil·i·a
The act or fantasy on the part of an adult of engaging in sexual activity with a child or children.

child
A person between birth and puberty.

pu·ber·ty
the age at which puberty occurs being typically between 13 and 16 years in boys and 11 and 14 in girls and often construed legally as 14 in boys and 12 in girls.



Ok so pedophilia is sex with someone between the age of 0 and 12. Emily 18 does not look like 12, she looks young, but not 12. So they cater to people that like fresh looking teens, but not pedos.

That is all that really needs to be said. In many countries of the world having sex with a 13 yr old girl is LEGAL. Heck in Canada, on your northern border the age of consent in Ontario is 14 yrs old. In the UK it is 16 years old.

So what is all the talk about a girl looking "underage"? What is "underage"? Underage for what? A girl under 18 in NOT underage.

And thinking about sex with someone is not the same as having sex with someone.

Thinking about an illegal act is not the same as actually committing one. How many times have you walked by a store and seen something you wanted and wished you could have it for free? Should you be locked up because you were tempted by something?

If people were locked up for their thoughts, I am sure 90% of the people in this world would be in jail!

cambaby 04-06-2005 10:14 AM

Hypocrisy is the act of pretending to have beliefs, virtues and feelings that one does not truly possess. The word derives from the late Latin hypocrisis and Greek hupokrisis both meaning play-acting or pretence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocritical

BVF 04-06-2005 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Fake Nick
lol,

you dont know the difference with illegal and immoral ? :error

Yes idiot I know the difference.

illegal = going to jail
immoral = some hypocrit saying it's wrong.

Now let brandon set up a shopping cart on weed.com where he sells ACTUAL weed and see how fast his ass gets strung up. The Teen Revenue people don't have to worry about that.

MrLuvr 04-06-2005 10:32 AM

I find it amazing that some people who sell porn for a living (which in itself is regarded as immoral by many) sit here and try to pass moral judgements on others.

BVF 04-06-2005 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Furious_Female
I agree. Yeah, teenage girls might own stuffed animals but they don't walk around holding them with a lollipop in their mouth like a 6 year old would. :disgust

Sorry but that's BS. Grown people walk around with lollipops in their mouths all the time.

http://www.blackvaginafinder.com/misc/kojak.jpg

BVF 04-06-2005 10:35 AM

And I'd fuck Emily18....

















































HARD!

After Shock Media 04-06-2005 02:36 PM

Now this is why I made my thread in regards to "thought crimes" and if people think they should be illegal or legal. What we have here is truely just that a thought crime. Nobody at all has done anything that is criminal and there is no victem, just the possibility of making people think the model may be under age.

Our industry should be no more regulated than a comparable industry such as the motion pictures association. Yes I do agree we do and did need an proof of age law, and some saftey standards and practices in place. Aside from that I am of the opinion that it should stop there.

If it is ok for hollywood to have produced very simuliar movies and or story lines where the only difference is the amount of nudity and sex versus the amount of violence and disregard for the law in the real world. It should be perfectly ok for our industry as well. If hollywood can make any of the above mentioned movies or even most of the Charles Bronson films of the 70's and early 80's which dealt a great deal with rape, murder, vigilanty behavior, drugs, and excessive violence and hide under the "artistic" flag so can we.

pornstar2pac 04-06-2005 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord of the fungi
Now this is why I made my thread in regards to "thought crimes" and if people think they should be illegal or legal. What we have here is truely just that a thought crime. Nobody at all has done anything that is criminal and there is no victem, just the possibility of making people think the model may be under age.

Our industry should be no more regulated than a comparable industry such as the motion pictures association. Yes I do agree we do and did need an proof of age law, and some saftey standards and practices in place. Aside from that I am of the opinion that it should stop there.

If it is ok for hollywood to have produced very simuliar movies and or story lines where the only difference is the amount of nudity and sex versus the amount of violence and disregard for the law in the real world. It should be perfectly ok for our industry as well. If hollywood can make any of the above mentioned movies or even most of the Charles Bronson films of the 70's and early 80's which dealt a great deal with rape, murder, vigilanty behavior, drugs, and excessive violence and hide under the "artistic" flag so can we.









Can you please try to brainwash us more with your way of thinking?

After Shock Media 04-06-2005 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pornstar2pac
Can you please try to brainwash us more with your way of thinking?

And how am I trying to brainwash anyone?
If you wish to pick apart what I said then fine do so, but a blanket statement without any rebuttles does not come off well.

MandyBlake 04-06-2005 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by brand0n
and these people tell me
"we are not catering to pedos, we are just doing the teen niche"

to me makin these girls look fucking 12 is not the teen niche. its border line sick. i dont give a FUCK how well it converts with what, i dont give a FUCK how much money it makes

you fucking know that your a step away from pedo shit, and you are catering to the people who want it.

Amen brother!

pornstar2pac 04-06-2005 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord of the fungi
And how am I trying to brainwash anyone?
If you wish to pick apart what I said then fine do so, but a blanket statement without any rebuttles does not come off well.




No need to pick apart what you sAID. i have moved on with my life.





so should you...

JSA Matt 04-06-2005 03:02 PM

There is nothing wrong with using legal girls that look young but when you stick them in a little kids room with flowers and teddy bears, it's obvious who you are trying to target. You are fooling no one and you are the scum of this industry.

Anyone watch 'the shield' last night? They had a porn shop owner selling videos of boys with little kids faces super imposed on the video. It was supposedly legal because no kids were actually in the videos. Does that make it OK?

polish_aristocrat 04-06-2005 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX
does this HONESTLY turn you on?

http://emily18.com/preview/63/DSC_0303.jpg

looks like a little boy.

nope :2 cents:

Veterans Day 04-06-2005 03:07 PM

we know exactly who they are catering to, its pretty obvious. Lollipops, braces, pigtails, and frilly pastel walls :1orglaugh Oh and gotta throw in the teddy bear

Veterans Day 04-06-2005 03:09 PM

I also think it sells so well cause these sick fucks who like little girls can join legally and download all that shit content and not have to worry bout legality.

After Shock Media 04-06-2005 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JSA Matt
They had a porn shop owner selling videos of boys with little kids faces super imposed on the video. It was supposedly legal because no kids were actually in the videos. Does that make it OK?

It is legal and therefore ok. Does not make it morally right, nor something I would promote or sell (like several sites mentioned in this thread). Though I refuse to push a given area into the realm of illegal.

I personally do not like a great deal of what is marketed in our industry from what is mentioned in this thread to very severe and degrading material which using the same argument could be construed as it catering to violent abusers and or rapists. I also do not promote them either. In the same breath though I will defend what they are doing.

MrLuvr 04-06-2005 03:14 PM

So, let us say a guy lives in a country where the age of consent is 14. He fantasizes that the girl on the website is 14. And in reality he can legally have sex with her if she was 14.
But, the model in the picture is 18. Is that wrong? Immoral? The guy is a pedo? What?

nofx 04-06-2005 03:17 PM

yea its a fucked up thing
but as long as their is money to made by doing it, people are going to fucking do it so its situation where no one can fucking win.

JSA Matt 04-06-2005 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MrLuvr
So, let us say a guy lives in a country where the age of consent is 14. He fantasizes that the girl on the website is 14. And in reality he can legally have sex with her if she was 14.
But, the model in the picture is 18. Is that wrong? Immoral? The guy is a pedo? What?

The argument isn't about right & wrong. It's about companies catering to the wants and needs of pedophiles for profit.

chupacabra 04-06-2005 03:29 PM

thx for the link, that chick is hot. haven't actually bought a membership in a while, thx for the pointer...

oh, and nice *spam* thread..

MrLuvr 04-06-2005 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JSA Matt
The argument isn't about right & wrong. It's about companies catering to the wants and needs of pedophiles for profit.

Ok, well then what is a pedophile?

JSA Matt 04-06-2005 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MrLuvr
Ok, well then what is a pedophile?

http://www.dictionary.com

cherrylula 04-06-2005 03:47 PM

as a female webmaster I would MUCH rather push these cute teen sites than facial anal gagging/gaping hardcore etc stuff. Seeing women with two cocks in her ass is degrading and disgusting. These sites are just cute teen girls posing and smiling, much easier on the eyes.

but nooo, don't cater to pedophiles, let's cater to men who want to gangbang chicks in the ass and nut on their face. good idea cause they are much better people than a guy with a teenage fantasy. :1orglaugh

welcome to adult, leave your morals at the door.

SleazyDream 04-06-2005 03:58 PM

18 is 18.

that's reality.
That's LEGAL.

cloths are just your own judgement.

18 is 18

Major (Tom) 04-06-2005 04:04 PM

It's a touchy subject... But if she is 18 the law of the land says its fair game. There is a time for morals, i agree, but legal is legal. Its like doing 55 mph in an indy car. It may look like its going pretty fast buts its still doing the speed limit.
Duke

crockett 04-06-2005 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by brand0n
yes. i am saying that http://emily18.com/ is fucked up.

dont sugar coat shit with me, "shes 18 and i can prove it!" that dont mean a fucking thing. this caters to a fucked up element


Yep the name emily 18 really makes me think of underage girl.. Funny a guy that promotes illegal drug use is on GFY talking about morals. :error

webseth 04-06-2005 04:05 PM

learn the difference between pedophillia and ephebophillia

Major (Tom) 04-06-2005 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MrLuvr
Ok, well then what is a pedophile?


ped·o·phile [ péddhahaha601; fhahaha63494;l, phahaha63484;dhahaha601; fhahaha63494;l ] (plural ped·o·philes)


noun

adult with sexual desire for children: an adult who has sexual desire for children or who has committed the crime of sex with a child

So, anybody fantacising or doing anyone 18 or over on film, or the legal age of consent, 15 in some states, is not a pedo. Fact is fact. Would i do it? no.. Buts thats me.
Duke

nico-t 04-06-2005 04:12 PM

face it, this whole thread is a rerun of all the other dumb threads where this is an exact copy from.

webseth 04-06-2005 04:18 PM

pedophillia has *NOTHING* to do with age of consent.

fuzebox 04-06-2005 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker
Its like doing 55 mph in an indy car. It may look like its going pretty fast buts its still doing the speed limit.

:1orglaugh nice quote!

Dopy 04-06-2005 04:42 PM

Well Spammed

If not smart move, theres Trixie thumbs going up all over the place.

Tat2Jr 04-06-2005 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula
I would MUCH rather push these cute teen sites than facial anal gagging/gaping hardcore etc stuff. Seeing women with two cocks in her ass is degrading and disgusting. These sites are just cute teen girls posing and smiling, much easier on the eyes.

but nooo, don't cater to pedophiles, let's cater to men who want to gangbang chicks in the ass and nut on their face. good idea cause they are much better people than a guy with a teenage fantasy. :1orglaugh

welcome to adult, leave your morals at the door.


:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

MrLuvr 04-06-2005 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker
ped·o·phile [ péddhahaha601; fhahaha63494;l, phahaha63484;dhahaha601; fhahaha63494;l ] (plural ped·o·philes)


noun

adult with sexual desire for children: an adult who has sexual desire for children or who has committed the crime of sex with a child
Duke

What is a child? 17 yrs and 364 days old?

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Originally Posted by webseth
pedophillia has *NOTHING* to do with age of consent.

So even if a guy sleeps with a girl over the age of consent, he could still be a pedophile?

Fletch XXX 04-06-2005 05:08 PM

what i dont get it.... this teen fantasy stuff is 100% legal.

However, you have people on this board who make money with Anal sex in the US... guess what, there were LAWS FORBIDDING it. whew,... glad they overturned that one.

http://www.sodomylaws.org/usa/usa.htm

fucking people are ridiculously uneducated.

go ahead, submit your anal gallery but oh no, dont take a picture of a girl with braces

:1orglaugh


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