Id drop it..... Everyone knows who you are and your rep, we know the story and that you are being generous offering him anything

He will get bored and move on - if wants to behave like a 5 year old, treat him like one and give him some "Time Out"

Just by 'The' Rick Latona mentioning his name you are playing his game

AlienQ is pissed off because he claimed to have stayed up for 72 hours straight posting on that thread. He also claimed that he would have used the money to invest in a business start up cost.

The fact that someone would rely on money from a contest instead of work is pure idiocy in my books.

Rick, you have tried to be more than generous with the guy and he won't let it go. I'd say just move on. Yeah he wants to see you go down. But how is he going to do that? I seriously believe that he doesn't have the resources to do it. He can do hate posts but I'm sure you've dealt with worst than that.

Just my :2 cents:

Ya all silent now huh?

True colors...

REVEALED.

Maybe he has better things to do... like make money. Something you could be doing now... think how much you could make if you stay up 72hrs instead of posting here.

So ya flks think I should take 2K and let it be?

C-mon...
Your fucken whores. The bitch threatened me.

Please...
I do not take dirty money sorry if I am brutally honest.

Sorry, but no. The only person here who could concievably convince me of that is Rick himself. Since I have had a great working relationship with all of the crew at CJ for several years now, I will have to go on record as strongly disagreeing with you.

Besides, your word means less than nothing to me. Much of your posts have proven you to be a smart talented guy, but many others simply make you out to be a smartmouthed little wannabe fuckface. You are definitely a curious specimen, I'll give you that.

Lets get a recap of this conversation:

Rick Latona (02:27 PM) :
i won't resolve it at 10k
Rick Latona (02:28 PM) :
you won't take something reasonable and now i don't think you'd even be cool if i did give you money
Rick Latona (02:28 PM) :
i've never come accross someone with so little tact
Alien (02:28 PM) :
Dude. I wont settle for 10K its beynd that.
Ya shown ya true colors to me. The time has passed for any of it.
Alien (02:28 PM) :
I do not wanna see 10K in my bank.
I wanna see you go out.
Rick Latona (02:29 PM) :
so that's it, eh? all out war against me. that's what you want?
Alien (02:30 PM) :
I wont be the one that does it.
I can tell ya that much. It will be you.
Alien (02:30 PM) :
Ya had a chance to look like a glden boy and the time has passed.
Ya could have given me 10K regardless of the contest being shut down for what was done.
Alien (02:31 PM) :
Ya opted to stay dwn and low key.
Ya never had any remorse in the fact that people crushed on me and called me an idiot.
Alien (02:32 PM) :
Ya know what I am saying is true.
You will slip.
And it wont be my fault.

Rick Latona (02:48 PM) :
i'm half tempted to go to war with you. i could get you banned again (not that i did it the first time). i could even take your website down so no one could get to it by putting your URL as an image preload in my header and throwing a few million page calls an hour at it. i don't want to do any of those things. i'd rather send you money and sit down and get you drunk at the next trade show so we can learn to laugh about this. bro, you have to pick the time and place to do battles. you can't just stir shit all the time. shouldn't we be helping each other out rather than trying to cause pain?
Alien (02:52 PM) :
Don't call me bro and threaten me at the same time.
You really are a scumbag arent you?
Rick Latona (02:52 PM) :
you are just threating me and calling me names
Alien (02:53 PM) :
Ya go ahead and throw your million hits and sink my site. I will make sure Splitinfinirty tracks evety byte to file a suit on your ass you wont know what hit ya.
Alien (02:54 PM) :
Ya wanna play?
Rick Latona (02:54 PM) :
no
Rick Latona (02:54 PM) :
i want to get along
Alien (02:54 PM) :
Ya think I cant get attornies to fucken knock you out at this point?
Alien (02:55 PM) :
I am sorry your money aint even god enough...
Ya had the chance like I said. It wont be me that takes you down. It will be you pal...
Alien (02:56 PM) :
I am dne at this point.
I will enjoy watching you cry on the boards for some respect...
Much like myself.

I have known Mark for years and he is a ruff guy on you but he means well. I donno about in the situation but he always comes at you in a different way and you respect him and understand where he is coming from in the end.

Rick is also I cool cat, I was supposed to play some golf with him when he came into South Florida for a trip but I don't golf.. So it didn't happen.

I would say that Alien just feels insulted by a buy off as it were. He put his time into posting a lot for Ricks thread and then poof no prize. I think Mark would have rather had a thank you for getting me some much hype then well I cant give you the cash I promised here is complementary pancake hat.
Thank you from the fokes here at Ihop.

my :2 cents: not that it's worth anything.

Rick you stood up to the plate and made an incredible offer to settle this. However like it was said many times you are dealing with someone who has no common sense. Any reasonable person would accept your offer and move on with business. In fact any reasonable person would have just moved on with business as usual anyways because the thread was closed and dropped off the first page ... both clear violations of the rules you posted.

I believe AlienQ is alienating himself over this. Maybe he's to busy and doesn't need more work. I don't know what the story is.

This board though thrives on drama. Without it there would probably only be 3 posts a day. Maybe in his little circle his freinds are looking up to him for taking you on. I don't know. Just saying whats coming to mind here.

I say he refused your offer. You made an attempt. Let it drop and go on without it bothering you. He seems to think just because you have more business than him you don't have feelings. This thread proved to everybody you do and that you tried to do the right thing.

Who knows maybe you could have loaned him the money to bring his business to the next level and helped him out. I've seen you do that for others. If it were me I wouldn't give that a thought anymore.

My advice for AlienQ is....

take the $2000 (if it's still on the table) (if it were me in Rick's place, it wouldn't be)
take the trip to the show
take the drinks
quit crying.


He threatened you only because you threatened him In the same breath he offers you a fucking pretty great olive branch. You seem too stupid to accept it for some odd reason.

Whatever. Enjoy your moment in the spotlight dude.

Okay, I am pretty sure that Alien isn't going to like this response, but so be it.

#1. The contest ended and it was not the fault of either you or Rick. Rules were set, they were not met. Shit happens.

#2. Rick may be offering outsourcing design, but IMHO, the people using his service probably are not really your target demographic anyway.

#3. I don't think you have the ability to bring him down even if you spent every waking hour trying to accomplish it. Trying to do so would be an exercise in futility, and the time would be better spent making $10k on your own.

#4. I think Rick's offer seems rather fair, however, my years of negotiation have taught me that negotiations boil down to demand and offer, counter-demand and counter-offer. Unfortunately, you kind of blew that when you stated you would not even accept the $10k (should it even be on the table).

#5. If you were asking for my advice (which I don't think you are), I would probably tell you to accept his offer (or try to bump it a little :) ) then meet with him at a show. With your skills I think it is possible that you could enter into a great business relationship with him. I know that if I could do business with him, I would likely jump at the opportunity.

The cliche' of cutting your nose to spite your face seems to be appropriate in this matter. If you would like me to attempt to negotiate a solution to this, I would be more than happy to. My fee is 20%.

Accepting 2K or exposing the truth about a scumbag...

I have said it many times before...
I would rather warn bigger peeps of this kinda vermin before it costs far far more to people with more money than myself...

Why?

Because I serve them.
Many of them...

Then the only question remaining is... will anyone who matters believe the shit you're spewing?

Somehow in this case, I doubt it.

I agree with all of this :thumbsup

Rick is offering you $10,000 and a peace pipe and you don't want to take it?

Hellooooooooooo.

Come to your senses dude. Take the money and laugh all the way to the bank.

10k ... pay up or hire perfection jeff

According to my ICQ...

Yes.
its not a matter of 2K thats a piss in the bucket.

In that very conversation I was threatened.
What kinda guy is Rick Latona? This is a fucken matter of principal.
Hw many times I got to say it..
I aint a whore but this should give any of you people an idea of what sorta persn he is.

Now ya can go and do biz with the guy all is well. But I tell when the cards are on the table this guy will have a knife waiting for ya.

His chancve to lok like gold was to give meh the contest money anyways. I could guarantee that he would have shinned alot higher and brighter.

That time has passed.
He nixed it.
He forgot about it.He offered a measily 300.oo.
And I thought to myself...
WOW! 300.oo for having a thread make headlines on several boards, keeping the thread alive for nearly a month and a 1/2 I forget really. But at the end...

I was berated, I was banned and my own rep was trashed for being such a dumb bastard. All the while Latona laughed it off.

Imagine if he went and awarded the 10K to the winner or me.

How many webamasters woluld have loved em for it, and the amount of respect it wuld have gotten em in the cmmunity. It would have been fucken huge.
Instead we get this.

Ya uhm... Ya..
Ya so uhm... Ya...
Ya so did you get the memo?
Ya uhm.... we are putting new cover sheets on all the TPS reports
Ya.......Ya....

I wouldn't give two cents, much less 2 grand, to ANY dumbass that posted ICQ logs on a board. Especially not if they were ICQ'ing with me.

People that don't have the good sense that God gave a doorknob -- about courtesy and grace -- don't go to war. They go sit in the corner and cry when they get their feelings hurt a few times by jumping off at the mouth when they should have been quiet.

Alien gets something out that makes perfect sense once in a blue moon, I will hand him that.

The other days with no moon, full moon, crescent moon, waxing moon, waning moon, Moon Pies, got mooned, you know...

I just pay him no mind at all.

All we are saying.........



















is give peace a chance......

Yeah...

The same guys that fucken did the auto install?
Your such a fake bitch it hurts.
Its really to bad people do not see that you will suck any cock that pays.

Can i pretend to be alienq and get the 2k ?


hehe

Yeah, a joke. I'm not sure if you've been reading this thread... much like the many other threads that you've been the center of... but you're the one looking bad for it all.

All this "true colors revealed" stuff you pull all the time is really giving you a bad name.

I'm sure you really do think that you're making us think differently of Rick, but... we're not. Seriously.

If nothing else, you should at least learn when to stop digging man.

Yeah it does give me a bad name on the boards...

Ya settle down and have a chat with me you will be shocked.

It really makes my eyes bleed to read your posts.

If you're going to type them in English, then for the love of Mike, please type in English, not this fucking tinfoil hat ebonics you seem to favor.

And in regards to your post, IF I were such a fake bitch that would suck any cock that pays, don't you think that I'd be much better off just stating the obvious so I could get paid better?

After all, a hooker who tells a potential trick she's not a hooker probably doesn't do too well on the job.

Once again. In a blue moon. And on those occasions I've even been known to back your delusional ass when you get attacked.

But there's a field of dreams, probably the pipe kind, between people starting bullshit threads about how you don't matter, and this kind of thing.

One day, you will learn to admit when you are wrong. And your life will become much more satisfying and fulfilling when that day comes.

You kept that thread alive for a month and a half?? Holy powerposting batman!

This is a page right out of "When postwhores go psycho"


http://members.shaw.ca/billy1-99/pics/psychochick.jpg

So ya wanna sit there and tell me that Hooper did not fund the auto install procedure with the NATS founders?
And paid them well?

Ya go and support that?
Your a whore. Alot of webmasters were taken back by that manuever and yet you care to spam NATS in this thread!
Then you go and attack me in a thread unrelated to you.

WTF is wrong with you dumb bitch.

where was I when hell broke lose. anyways, hope you settle
your differences without hurting each other

Dude, you are not making any friends today are you?

Alien, aren't you one ballsy little fucker! You should get bitchslapped for that sucking cock remark.

I haven't talked to KimmyKim a whole lot but every time I did, she's been nothing but helpful and never asked anything in return.

But continue making yourself look like an idiot. It's somewhat entertaining.

You should really consider checking yourself in for 72 hour observation. Or spending more time working at your paying job. Or taking some remedial English classes.

what the hell does "fund the auto install procedure" mean, what do either of those two companies have to do with the fact that YOU POSTED YOUR ICQ LOGS WITH RICK LATONA ON A MESSAGE BOARD?

You're a whore. That is how you say it. I may be YOUR nightmare come true, but YOU'RE in need of some meds.

Once again, you need to learn to leave well enough alone.

You could be the greatest designer since Da Vinci, I wouldn't let you spraypaint my toolshed much less have you design anything or recommend you to someone else.
Reason: you are a tool.

Hey don't beat on the messenger...
SOme of this shit I wish I could make up.

Why thank you, MikeO, for that very gentlemanly remark. I try to do my best to help people when they ask me for it, I can't always come through, but I do try.

What Alien can't seem to get through his tinfoil covered, hard as a rock noggin', is that you don't post ICQ logs on message boards -- it's just plain rude; nor do you start shit every time you don't like someone over something that they didn't control.

Lensman put a stop to the contest, Rick wasn't under any obligation to pay him anything.

His claims of Rick having a chance to be the golden boy, or come out shining, or whatever, by succumbing to his blackmail tricks in the very ICQ logs he posted, just don't hold water. Especially when Rick offered him a life raft after he turned into a man overboard.

Anyone else sipping Nightrain?

:glugglug

Hahaha, I hear that stuff will eat right through anything but that double strength tin foil.

remember guys, posts are only to be one..two sentences tops.



none of this essay shit

David vs. Goliath :2 cents:

Like I said the time has passed.

Rick can send me a check for 10K today and I would video tape me burning it.

Read his posts, he's proven to be an idiot, taking credit for being other peoples design inspiration. LOL. He needs some medicine

Gee, and I thought you were here to make money, since you're certainly not doing too well trying to be popular.

And yes I the clip would be posted on GFY.

KimmyKim unlike you I aint a whore.

I am just a flare in the sky...
The SOS that people need to get ahead in this biz.

Does it pay? Not really but ya be would astounded at the amount of folks that message me and say thanks.

If it means tearing down a scumbag I will always gladly be the fall guy.

i'm in this business to make money, anyone with me?

I need your address, I've got a present for you.

http://www.berlitz.us/Adult/LiveInst...itzEnglish.htm

This is wise advice.

God forbid you fall off your soap box and break a leg on that dead "whorse" you keep beating.

Find some new material and try to be interesting for a change.

Or get back to your day job.

Thank God McDonald's is offering wireless these days...

Idiot,

Say that Rick did send you a check for $10k and that you did burn it. How exactly is that going to be "tearing down a scumbag"?