I sent the FULL amount of 10k.... He has 4 of it. The second wire was already set with the bank.... I asked them to HOLD it because he started this thread.
I never backed out of the deal and had he not started this thread we would not be in
this mess. So one question for him is all I have.... Do you or dont you want to continue with this deal? Thats all I ask..... if the answer is yes, then I will agree to let all this be behind us....

Then from there on, we continue as planned?

YES / NO <--- Circle one.

Either way, you still owe him $10k, and that $6k is his which youre holding

OK here it goes....

DomBuyer: I am sorry that this situation has come to this, really it's out of hand at the moment. Rumors and Allegations aside, let the past be the past and let's continue this. I did wire you 4k and I did wire you 6k. The 6k I managed to hold back by luck, the 4k went, I tried to stop that too but I was too late. Now.... .......

I did that because I was pissed off about the thread. You can understand my knee-jerk reaction about that. Look at this mess. I have a solid reputation and it is being tarnished over a domain purchase gone wrong. All I wish to do is get on the same page as you and let the past be the past.

I do not want to deal with anyone but you directly. I do not want this to get out of hand again, as I can see your wrath is fierce.

-Chris

This thread was started on April 1st.

You claim you'd already sent the money when it was started, but the second wire wasn't sent because he started this thread, therefore you PUBLICALLY ADMIT YOU ARE IN BREACH OF CONTRACT even if it's a verbal amendment to it. Pay the man and stop making yourself look like a fool.

No, I don't have $4k you moron. My bank account shows nothing. How many times do I have to say this. You haven't paid me until it's in my account. You have no credibility with me or anyone here now.

On Monday, I will tell you whether I received the wire or not, taking you from having paid me ZERO to having paid me $4k.

Then you'll still be $6k short.

You pay me the full $10k and I'll CONSIDER restarting the deal, but the plain truth you have to digest is that you don't drive on this one. If I choose to nullify the deal after you send me the $10k, there's not a goddamned thing you can do about it because you violated the terms of the deal.

But that might be better than me spanking you in court for the full $45k, which would most certainly put you guys down for good given your serious lack of cash flow.

My suggestion is you start talking to my partner before I swing the door shut for good and sue you for the full vig.

Uh, you would have been pissed too man... Im only human.

Ouch... Owned again

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Look out the window DomBuyer



$10,000 ain't shit to stress when you have that right fucking there.


Sailing week is soon

If you had modified the terms of the domain purchase and then come to a tenitive agreement with someone regarding a payment schedule, you should have taken the time to get ammendments made to the agreement legally so that this would have been avoided from moment one. You publically announecd the purchase of this domain, thus highly staking your reputation on the sale and making it a public matter. Honestly, I'm sure DomBuyer would have understood if you had taken the time to actually gone through proper channels and made him comfortable with a properly laid out payment schedule. But that's my two cents, what do I know. Have a lovely day.

Chris, I have no direct interest in this on any side, but let me give you some good business advice:

When you have announced all over that you bought the domain, that you have done a great deal, yadda, yadda... you need to EXECUTE. Failure to execute on a simple "send money" situations can make people wonder about your ability to execute on anything else.

You bought a domain to brand your company and make it easy for people to find you. You agreed to a price (which is a good price for both parties, i am sure), now all you have to do is pay. Pulling back the second wire isn't helping you out here.

Your doing this in public now, and you only get one chance to make a good impression.

Alex

No, deal with my partner. It's the least you can do after blowing another two days of my life on this shit.

I shoulda got my sig in this thread long ago as I see it going on all weekend.

It probably won't go away for a while, either...

Alex

DomBuyer, this spitinfinity guy doesnt seem have 4k, let alone the 10k he owes you, I wouldn't hold my breath on the full 45k IMHO :2 cents:

SplitInfinity,

He says he didn?t receive the wire. I bank with BoA, just print (or screen grab) of your current activities and black out the important info to show that the 4k was deducted and post it maybe some us will believe you. The screen shot I saw of the bank transfer, I could make that in PhotoShop and I also could change my fax number to any number for the receiving end.

I don?t know and it might be not my place to post this, you owe the money and say you have the money so why not pay it. These threads don?t look good for new clients especially when the search is working :Oh crap




Sorry to hear about your first panic attack. It sounded real bad. :(

It is getting even crazier (sp)

Just because a wire has left one account does not mean it is in the other account.

I want to make it clear that I have no ill will for Chris and SplitInfinity. I just think this deal is being mistreated by them and this needs to be taken care of.

I know that:) But once I make a wire transfer with BoA, my account say minus (and pending) immediately.

hi- chiming in

dombuyer- i recommend you mitigate your damages soon and relist the domain for sale. that can fairly reduce chris' exposure at least. contractually he is a bit fucked of course. ease up a bit. your position is obviously strong.

chris- i think todd's point earlier was that you seem to know a lot about hosting and need some more corporate backing to get to the next level.

i hope people are not turned off to the 3rd party aspect of domain brokering. the folks in the middle are partially to blame for failing to verify that their client for purchase was in a position to pay per the contract.

most of the other points about executing and contracts and publicity have all been touched on and are obvious.

good luck to both of you resolving this and moving forward.

I appreciate your kind words, but I hope you can understand that I ain't taking any flak in any direction. I have been in the business of domains for a long time, and both the negotiation of the contract and the conditions attached were in keeping with the guy on the dotted line and his rep. Aside from peering into someone's bank account, there's no way to know if they'll follow through.

I think that when a company's in trouble, they'll cut almost any deal to pull them through, and will let their standards slide. Sinking ship and all.

seems totally standard in the domain biz and this is really a behind the scenes look at what happens in domain transfers etc.. it would be interesting to see the contract and also i wonder if chris would have wired you upon signing if he did not have the domain pointed to him until the first payment had landed.

to turn this into an educational do's and don't's for domain buyers and sellers would be a somewhat positive spin and you and us take these formalities for granted after having been down these roads over the years.

confidentiality etc in the agreement may preclude you from posting it but it could be a good tutorial. if anyone ever wants a copy of our standard domain transfer sale agreement/contract please email us and we will provide it to you as a courtesy.

now somebody send me their super model contract template for single girl sites ;-)

Now we get to the sorest of spots: this fiasco reducing the goodwill of the domain. It's one thing that I had to go through all this b.s., lose that traffic, actually pay someone to draw up and monitor this sale and end up in the red (so far) but what most pisses me off is that when I relist the domain, a lot of people are going to be thinking twice about taking it off my hands given the drama. Just the whiff of potential problems/lawsuits/bad karma will keep the big boys away.

I know I'd be very reticent to buy this until the dust has *completely* settled, and I know many others will feel the same. That's the worst of it. :mad:

Hmmmm Xpays, I like the way you talk.... that was a clear a level headed post.

Anyways, we do not have cashflow issues, that is not the problem at this time.

I have been on the phone with logicbank and the call ended well.
I highly recommend logicbank for and brokering deals... the guy is a GREAT negotiator.

I also strongly belive after my phone call with him that this can and will be worked out. I agree this got out of hand...

One comment though, on the above...
"He says he didn?t receive the wire. I bank with BoA, just print (or screen grab) of your current activities and black out the important info to show that the 4k was deducted and post it maybe some us will believe you"

I did post that... screen shot from online banking. :-) Anyhow....

This is going better now. I apologize for being defensive....

Best Regards.

totally valid and true - google split.com someday and this thread will pop -up if the buyer goes that route. plus you have illwill on it - hand it off to sedo this one time :winkwink:

also - if chris can secure the contract somehow and add a couple bucks to it and stretch it out a little longer and then stick to it- it could be pheasable.

Great minds think alike... "also - if chris can secure the contract somehow and add a couple bucks to it and stretch it out a little longer and then stick to it- it could be pheasable."

I did offer that. :-) Least I could do to help re-kindle the relationship.

i have to jet for a few- if you two agree that you need a mediator or anything like that - i volunteer and am impartial.

a little off topic: when do checks get sent for paris sign-ups? I'm getting my first one from last month :thumbsup

checks get sent every other week for the 2 week period 3 weeks before

will email you and turn up the volume - side note- we have never missed a payout (through sponsors going belly up and ibill shorting us etc.) - which is another good reason to use us--- we pay out of pocket without gvetching if a sponsor or provider sticks us. you never even notice and another working site in the same niche usually will automatically pop in to your original link. all your links will work for as long as we are in business and our 7 year anniversary for XPays is august 5th.

back to topic and glad i caught this question....

holy drama

150 unpaid domain sales

150 times OrgBuyer has ignored me

4 pager...pretty good :thumbsup

Reading this thread, I've been on your side the whole time but now you're just being a prick. You've said "business is business" half a dozen ways in this thread but now you're not sticking to that yourself. It's not enough to get your money and settle this? You have to add some sort of power play or humiliation to it? Just deal with him directly and get paid.

SpaceAce

I agree. Antigua has gone to his head.


(as he watches another Yahct sail by)

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Please sell me band.com :upsidedow

foundrynap part deux, watch and see. :1orglaugh

Mike,

e-mail sent

:1orglaugh Interresting point of view for sure :1orglaugh

The bank wire for $4K could have actually been sent like SplitInfinity is saying - the receiving bank should have received it the same day (this past Friday 4/1), but not necessarily, especially if the DomBuyers bank is in another country, which appears to be the case.

Several things can delay a bank wire from being received:

1. Routing and/or bank accout number wrong. Scary, since bank wires can't be reversed once complete, but often such errors are caught before that happens; often causes delay.

2. Intermediary bank(s) involved; if so I bet a cutoff time was missed along the way and thus likely the earliest that $4K wire would come through would be Monday.

3. DomBuyer's bank received the bank wire, but hasn't posted it yet to DomBuyer's account - many banks batch wire transfers for both outgoing and incoming ... if one is anxious to know, prior to posting, whether a wire came through, they need to contact their bank and have someone manually check.

I've done numerous wires and while they're fast, one should assume delays, especially if doing cross-border wires - even more so when done on a Friday.

Finally, I agree with some others here - SplitInfinity, regardless of who is right/wrong/etc, should pay DomBuyer the $10K asap to resolve the issue - allowing this to continue will hurt SplitInfinity far more; much damage already done - many who read this thread will be leery of dealing with a webhosting company that appears, and I emphasize appears to some readers of this thread, to have cashflow problems.

Ron