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pornstar2pac 04-01-2005 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by AngelDollarsAndy
BC weed is world-ranked. Wouldn't know first-hand cause I quit when I was 17(before moving to BC). But from what I hear its some of the best and most popular globally.


yeah, I havn't stopped smoking since I was 17. maybe that's why I'm not a millionaire by now :(

CybermedAndy 04-01-2005 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Halcyon
BUMMER!!
I was looking forward to seeing you again, Andy.
Hopefully at the San Diego show or FL Internext.
Likewise Halcyon, you were on the top of the list of people I was wanting to buy a drink...

Guess I'll be buying you 2 drinks to make up for it at Internext ;)

Kevsh 04-01-2005 08:48 PM
Damn, what a shitty story. All it takes is one pesky gnat to ruin a great weekend ... There can be 20 agents on duty and if you end up with the clown, it's good night.

I remember I took a connecting flight to Frankfurt through Minnesota 2 years ago (I missed my original flight, long story) and was going to be in the USA for literally 90 minutes - not even time to leave the terminal, never mind the airport.

Whether it was because I was a single man who in the Summer can pass for Middle Eastern, or this guy was just being an ass, he grilled me as well. I finally told him "I'm not GOING to the US, I'm only passing through as I have NO CHOICE! I MISSED MY ORIGINAL FLIGHT!!!"

Anyway, he finally let me go but I could tell he was just trying to make me sweat for a bit, taking advantage of the fact I was already stressed for missing my original flight.

Major league "I Got The Power" syndrome.

psyko514 04-01-2005 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Shortbread
As far as I know, if you had a charge like that as a minor, then it should have been closed once you reached adulthood and is not supposed to be re-opened or brought up again. In fact they shouldn't even have that on record really anywhere anymore, nor can they use that against you. Look into it. I think you have a strong case on your hands.
This is correct. I was arrested as a minor for vandalism and it was wiped clean off my record when I turned 18. Since it's a misdemeanor, it'll only appear in court records and nowhere else. Cops or customs agents cannot see a record of it. You're not supposed to consider it as a prior arrest.

I spent over two hours at customs on Monday night. The agent asked me literally dozens of questions, searched my bags and spent a long time looking me up in the computers. Nothing was ever mentioned regarding my arrest as a minor, and when he asked about prior arrests, I said none.

huey 04-01-2005 10:24 PM
Hey Andy, Since 911 they have been real ass's at the border. Drug and assault charges are number one on their stop list. Even if you have a pardon in Canada the U.S. does not recognize it.
My friends with past records apply for waivers before they head down. It's kind of like being pre approved to travel south. You might have to look into it before heading south again.

digi 04-01-2005 10:38 PM
Im a swedish citizen and Ive basically lived in Canada for one and a half years now with just my passport. Im actually amazed they still let me in :1orglaugh

CybermedAndy 04-01-2005 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by huey
Hey Andy, Since 911 they have been real ass's at the border. Drug and assault charges are number one on their stop list. Even if you have a pardon in Canada the U.S. does not recognize it.
My friends with past records apply for waivers before they head down. It's kind of like being pre approved to travel south. You might have to look into it before heading south again.
Ya they gave me the waiver forms to fill out... said with some luck it will only take 4 months :(

CoreAdult-Dee 04-02-2005 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by rambler
That pardon would be useless now that US customs knows about the offence.
BTW I think his record is auto-purged when he turned 18.
Nope, it is very valuble. He will receive paperwork showing that he has received a full pardon. When shown to the U.S. customs they have no choice but to back off, because a full pardon is exactly that, a pardon and it can no longer be held against you.

A friend of mine was bascially in the same situation as this guy, constantly hassled by U.S. customs over a teenage pot conviction. He went for the full pardon, received it and the next time he went over the border and customs hassled it he whipped out the full pardon and they back off. It has been about 5 years now since he showed customs his pardon and they made a copy of it and they have never pulled him aside since.

bdld 04-02-2005 12:32 AM
lesson learned: dont do drugs

CheeseFrog 04-02-2005 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by bdld
lesson learned: dont do drugs
Yeah, you might end up as a customs agent working 8hr shifts at an airport for the rest of your life. ^_^

CybermedAndy 04-02-2005 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by CheeseFrog
Yeah, you might end up as a customs agent working 8hr shifts at an airport for the rest of your life. ^_^
:1orglaugh

Vitasoy 04-02-2005 02:45 AM
Man theres some crazy ass stories.

lazycash 04-02-2005 02:47 AM
Damn, I was so looking forward to the stash you said you would be bringing to Phx, guess I'll have to find another hook up.

CybermedAndy 04-02-2005 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by lazycash
Damn, I was so looking forward to the stash you said you would be bringing to Phx, guess I'll have to find another hook up.
Ya too bad... had my ass packed full with a pound of BC's finest herb.

gangbangjoe 04-02-2005 03:09 AM
in germany its worse....

sean416 04-02-2005 03:18 AM
shitty deal bro. A little while ago me and my father were travelling over seas and had a stop over in the states. My father is arab, and he was going back home to Morocco with the intent of buying a condo there. Long storey, but in short he had to bring cash. So he had 60k in cash, all in a money belt. Trust me, if you're an arab, with 60k in cash, dont try and cross the US border LOL.

anyway, sucks that it killed your weekend, but like a lot of others have pointed out, it could be worse.

brilsmurf 04-02-2005 03:29 AM
what a fucking guy! to hell with them!

uno 04-02-2005 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Mutt
that really does suck. guess you'll have to see a lawyer. customs agents are typically losers - they love the power they have over normal people. you had a model with you, he's probably a 30 year old virgin - this gave him more reason to fuck with you. customs = revenge of the nerds.
God man... I was stuck with some guys driving the bus for NatNet almost 2 years ago trying to cross the border into canada in NY. These people have a complete ego trip on themselves. We got flagged cause, stupidly, I told them I was going to montreal for biz. They pulled us into the station and were asking me and my friend about our records, which we had none. The guy ran our shit, then flipped out about arrests years earlier that didn't even result in convictions and were dropped for both of us. They denied us entry so we had to take a route through vermont(thanks dugmor). There we both said we were there for liesure and all was well.

That dude had such a "I have a hardon" face at the new york crossing. Fucking disgusting. ya, I'm trying to pull one over on him because of an arrest that didn't result in a conviction or even a plea.

CybermedAndy 04-02-2005 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by sean416
shitty deal bro. A little while ago me and my father were travelling over seas and had a stop over in the states. My father is arab, and he was going back home to Morocco with the intent of buying a condo there. Long storey, but in short he had to bring cash. So he had 60k in cash, all in a money belt. Trust me, if you're an arab, with 60k in cash, dont try and cross the US border LOL.

anyway, sucks that it killed your weekend, but like a lot of others have pointed out, it could be worse.
Ya they had an arab and a black guy being held there too, I gave them my condolences on the way out..

imafuckingaussie 04-02-2005 04:49 AM
You should hunt man child down and punch that c u n t in the nose dude :thumbsup

pornstar2pac 04-02-2005 04:51 AM
$100us = $192cnd

Dalai lama 04-02-2005 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by quantum-x
Customs agents suck dick.

I'm Australian, part of the Commonwealth - yet when I went to the UK, I was held up for about 45minutes by some shit-for-brains customs agent.

Bear in mind, I've just stepped off the plane, carrying only my hand luggage.

Customs agent: Can I have your passport
Me: Sure.
Customs agent: Purpose of visit?
Me: Seeing some old friends, having a few meetings and just looking around.
Him: What meetings?
Me: Just seeing some work colleagues.
Him: What are their names, who do they work for?
Me: Uhh...
Him: You're required to tell me this information. Do you have proof of your meetings? I need to see their business cards, contact details, and a letter of confirmation of your meetings.
Me: I've just stepped off a 30 hour flight, I don't have this information on me.
Him: Well, that's just another problem you have then, isn't it.
Me: Uhhh..
Him: These friends you're staying with. Where do they live.
Me: I'm not sure, I've never stayed with them in the UK before. I'm meeting them in arrivals.
Him: They're your friends and you don't know where they live? Sounds like a pretty weak excuse to me.
Him: How much money do you have in your wallet?
Me: What does that have to do with anything?
Him: I need to know how much you have.
Me: About 60 Pounds.
Him: And you're staying for 2 weeks, right?
Me: Right.
Him: That's not much money for 2 weeks. How were you planning to stay?
Me: I have my VISA.
Him: A VISA isn't cash - that's not sufficent proof that you have enough funds to sustain yourself. How much is on your card?
Me: That's none of your business
Him: Yes, it is.
Me: Let me ask you something. How much money do you have in your pocket?
Him: I don't have to answer that.
Me: Humour me.
Him: 20 Pounds
Me: And you live here permanently? Damn, how do you sustain yourself on 20 pounds?
Him: Stop being smart:
Me: Seriously man, what's you're case? I'm Australian. I've just gone through immigration in 5 countries including the middle east before here, and they couldn't care less about how much money I had in my damn wallet.
Him: ...
Me: So can I come through?
Him: *Calls colleague over, chats, walks off, comes back with a big red stamp.
Him: I'm letting you in, under a Code 3 Stamp.
Me: And that means?
Him: We will be monitoring you throughout the duration of your stay. If you do not leave within your two weeks, we will track you down.
Me: You've stamped my passport for 6 months
Him: Two weeks!
Me: Ok, remind me next time when I come through to say I'm going to go see the palace and feed the pigeons, ok?
Him: *Smirks - Oh no! Don't do that, we're happy to have you here.

Now, not to be paranoid, but every time I made a phone call in the UK, the unlock icon on my phone kept appearing - indicating that GSM encryption had been turned off for that call. It continued for a week after I left the UK, then went back to normal.

I swear customs guys are complete arseholes - I feel for you man.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh Too damn funny

bangman 04-02-2005 06:14 AM
Damn...I never had to travel across borders so I never even had to deal with any of that, but wow...some really messed up stories. Makes me pissed just reading them.

CybermedAndy 04-02-2005 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by pornstar2pac
$100us = $192cnd
Hotel and flight for me and model = $1300 USD

= $1575 cad non refundable expense lost

Rui 04-02-2005 02:02 PM
Amazing to say the least, considering the charges in question and the fact it happened 15 FUCKING YEARS AGO...fucked up to say the least :/

New User 04-02-2005 02:09 PM
This shit shouldn't be a surprise. My wife just told me (she works for Canadian Defense Department) on the Government's website there is a big help wanted ad looking for high school students and college interns to come work as border guards, immigration officers and customs agents for the summer.

So kids get to make the judgement on potentially life-altering issues at borders. Anybody see a problem with giving some kids, who have never had any real power, the kind of power they have at the border crossings?

Wouldn't doubt if the U.S. does the exact same thing, hiring kids etc.

rambler 04-02-2005 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CoreAdult-Dee
Nope, it is very valuble. He will receive paperwork showing that he has received a full pardon. When shown to the U.S. customs they have no choice but to back off, because a full pardon is exactly that, a pardon and it can no longer be held against you.

A friend of mine was bascially in the same situation as this guy, constantly hassled by U.S. customs over a teenage pot conviction. He went for the full pardon, received it and the next time he went over the border and customs hassled it he whipped out the full pardon and they back off. It has been about 5 years now since he showed customs his pardon and they made a copy of it and they have never pulled him aside since.
My brother had a criminal record and the US didn't recognize his Canadian pardon for a minor drug offence. He had to apply for a waiver.

jonpotz 04-02-2005 03:09 PM
all U.S. customs agents are dickheads.

when coming back from a cruise to bahamas they had to check my bags and my id.

i walk up to the booth with the customs agent and say "good morning buddy."

and he looks at me hard as hell and says "BUDDY? BUDDY? TRY UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HOMELAND SECURITY OFFICER. BLAH LBHA LBHAL BLHAL".

I was thinking, WTF? Haha then i was on my way.

jonpotz 04-02-2005 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by New User
This shit shouldn't be a surprise. My wife just told me (she works for Canadian Defense Department) on the Government's website there is a big help wanted ad looking for high school students and college interns to come work as border guards, immigration officers and customs agents for the summer.

So kids get to make the judgement on potentially life-altering issues at borders. Anybody see a problem with giving some kids, who have never had any real power, the kind of power they have at the border crossings?

Wouldn't doubt if the U.S. does the exact same thing, hiring kids etc.
US is worse, I just read an article the other day about it.

They are allowing armed volunteers to patrol the Us/mexican border!

Buncha bible thumpin hicks that will probably shoot first, ask questions later.

hershie 04-02-2005 03:13 PM
I tried to cross into Cambodia from Vietnam at a brand new border crossing that had just opened up and I had spent 3 days going up the Mekong river to reach it and realized I lost my exit visa, which was supposedly a big deal in Vietnam. My boat driver said the border guards would probably make me go all the way back to Saigon to deal with it. When I got to the border it was empty since it was so new and remote, and the Vietnam guard told my driver that if I bought him a carton of cigarettes at the stand over there, he would let me through. So I basically bribed my way into Cambodia.

theking 04-02-2005 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jonpotz
US is worse, I just read an article the other day about it.

They are allowing armed volunteers to patrol the Us/mexican border!

Buncha bible thumpin hicks that will probably shoot first, ask questions later.
What do you mean allowing? They operate within the law...if and when they violate the law they will be arrested. What they are doing is a good thing...since the Government is failing the people in this AO.

ytcracker 04-02-2005 03:34 PM
dude that is so fucking retarded

we barely talked in vegas but that is serious bullshit

please keep us posted on the outcome what a dickless faggot

eiht_98 04-02-2005 03:40 PM
who gives a fuck what happened to you...i thought i would get some boobies here...

CybermedAndy 04-02-2005 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ytcracker
dude that is so fucking retarded

we barely talked in vegas but that is serious bullshit

please keep us posted on the outcome what a dickless faggot
Thanks bro, we'll make up for it in Hollywood in August ;)

CybermedAndy 04-02-2005 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by eiht_98
who gives a fuck what happened to you...i thought i would get some boobies here...
Well on that note, here's the girl(on the left) who didn't get to go to Phoenix because of all this

http://www.angeldollars.com/angels/nikkiangel3.jpg

fünkmaster 04-02-2005 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by xclusive
Damn that sucks man.
... why, because some druggo is denied access, fucking good to know that some custom officers take their job seriously.

svenski 04-02-2005 05:59 PM
I found Canadian Immigration to be arrogant, and racist - and I'm white.

What is the term for it, positive discrimination or something?


I got hassled once by US customs when a flight from toronto got cancelled and I had to get on a Brazilian flight to NY and then join British Airways from there.

The guy couldn't understand that I was going to be in the US for all of 3-4 hours.

:Oh crap

WWC-DonMike 04-04-2005 10:16 AM
Andy, I'm so sorry to hear about this. I can't imagine making all those plans, getting all excited, and having it all trashed like that. I hope all works out for Hollywood and you get here with no problems.

And good for you for not letting that customs jerk get away with it. Do everything you can to get him fired. You're probably not the first person who he's messed up.


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