How are people doing with IWantU per profile? - GoFuckYourself.com

iwantchixx · 03-25-2005, 02:12 PM

I'm noticing a stark difference in generated income. From good ratios to practically non-existant.

Seems people just aren't filling in profiles.

has anyone else noticed a huge difference?

pornguy · 03-25-2005, 02:14 PM

sent some traffic their way, and the stats that they show, and the amount that I know I sent, is a major difference.

iwantchixx · 03-25-2005, 04:10 PM

bump - anyone else?

$5 submissions · 03-25-2005, 04:29 PM

I still send them 1K niched text link clicks a day. 1:10 conversions for that traffic. However, I can't replicate that ratio if I pour on my mainstream niche traffic.

iwantchixx · 03-25-2005, 06:54 PM

Gene, how are you preselling? Are you explaining that they need to fill in a profile then search for mates or just sending them to the main tour with generic text?

I'm sending to tour with generic text, wa working good for email, not so good on per profile tho.

I'm setting up a site for a client right now preselling by getting them to fill in a profile to search for mates.

Curious to see how that works out.

Varius · 03-25-2005, 07:03 PM

Hey iwantchixxx,

You might want to try sending to either the join page itself, or the search results page to see if that helps your free conversion.

You can get a list of all possible search params you can use from the Linkcode section, but here's an example:

"Men seeking Women 19-28 within 100 miles of Bev Hills, CA"

http://www.iwantu.com/click/campaign...nder_ seeking[]=2&zip=90210

You can ofcourse use many other options, from ethnicity to body type to whether they smoke or not.

Hope this helps, if you don't see an increase in conversions, feel free to contact your rep so they look at your site/links and suggest improvements

Xplicit · 03-25-2005, 07:05 PM

Free signups are fine, paid sales are horrable.

Since you need good paid sales to get paid more than .50cents, I took my links down.

I don't notice a better ratio with people not having to confirm their email addresses either. I think most people ASSUME they need to confirm nowdays anyway so they put in a real email addy.

I'm going to wait a few weeks to see if any more freejoins convert to paid, then i'll decide if i'll continue with them.

Varius · 03-25-2005, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xplicit

Free signups are fine, paid sales are horrable.

Since you need good paid sales to get paid more than .50cents, I took my links down.

I don't notice a better ratio with people not having to confirm their email addresses either. I think most people ASSUME they need to confirm nowdays anyway so they put in a real email addy.

I'm going to wait a few weeks to see if any more freejoins convert to paid, then i'll decide if i'll continue with them.

Hey Xplicit,

We're working on why the newer affiliates who came in during the $2.50 promo are converting so much less than our revshare/pps affiliates have been averaging. This week we will study some patterns and figure it out.

As for email confirmations though, I can directly see in the database that roughly 70% of members have NOT confirmed their email address. Now perhaps because we allow them to login and use the site without confirming, they just don't bother...this could be something for us to study and play with

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iwantu · 03-25-2005, 09:29 PM

Here it is all.

Try that method and you will convert like crazy.
Replace XXXXXXXXX by your campaign Id and check the link code section for more details.

How to send hits to profiles search?

The most effective way to market a dating website is to send traffic directly to the search results. Follow the example below and replace the dots (...) by the desired variables to reflect your search criteria.

http://www.iwantu.com/click/XXXXXXXX/0/search.love?.................................
Desired country country=XXX
Desired state/province region=XXX
Zip code zip=XXXXX

You will receive all matches at 100 miles away from this zip or postal code (us canada only)

Note: If you do not enter any value for country, region or zip code, profiles will automatically be displayed from the corresponding country of the surfer.

What seeking genders you want to show? gender_seeking[]=X

1=men

2=women

3=couples

4=groups

What orientation you want to seek? gender=X

1=men

2=women

3=couples

4=groups

Any age criterias? age_min=XX age_max=XX

age_min=18

age_max=99

Any preferred Body type? body[]=X

1=slim

2=Athletic

3=Proportional

4=Few extra pounds

5=Overweight

Would you like to show profiles with pictures only? picture=1
Any particular cultural heritage? heritage[]=X

1=Caucasian (white)

2=African American

3=First nation

4=Hispanic

5=Asian

6=Middle Eastern

7=African

Examples:
If you want to show profiles of slim Hispanic women between 18 and 25?
http://www.iwantu.com/click/XXXXXXXX...ge_max=25&body[]=1&heritage[]=4
if you want to show the profiles of proportional and athletic gay men?
http://www.iwantu.com/click/XXXXXXXX...&gender=1&body[]=2&body[]=3
if you want to show the profiles of women seeking couples in California
http://www.iwantu.com/click/XXXXXXXX...r=3&state=3839

How to send hits to a member page?

To send traffic to a member's page you should use:
http://www.iwantu.com/click/XXXXXXXX/0/members/handle
Replace handle by the nickname of the member you want to show
For example:
If you wish to send traffic to the profile of user kwellchick, you must use this link:
http://www.iwantu.com/click/XXXXXXXX...ers/kwellchick

How to send hits to the Join Page?

http://www.iwantu.com/click/XXXXXXXX/0/join.love

How to send hits to a different club?

http://www.iwantu.com/click/XXXXXXXX/0/dating/
http://www.iwantu.com/click/XXXXXXXX/0/adult
http://www.iwantu.com/click/XXXXXXXX/0/alt/
Note that you can link to any page within the club, for example:
http://www.iwantu.com/click/XXXXXXXX...g/success.love
http://www.iwantu.com/click/XXXXXXXX/0/alt/join.love

Alky · 03-25-2005, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varius

As for email confirmations though, I can directly see in the database that roughly 70% of members have NOT confirmed their email address. Now perhaps because we allow them to login and use the site without confirming, they just don't bother...this could be something for us to study and play with

Why would you do this? Just a loop hole to not pay affiliates?

darnoth · 03-25-2005, 10:13 PM

While sending directly to the search page works well for me on other dating sites.. sending to yours actually made my ratio worse. The thumbnails are too small, the next is hard to read, and really I just can't tell what you are showing me when I look at the search results. Perhaps you should think about adding some alternate search landing pages .

simple simon · 03-25-2005, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darnoth

While sending directly to the search page works well for me on other dating sites.. sending to yours actually made my ratio worse. The thumbnails are too small, the next is hard to read, and really I just can't tell what you are showing me when I look at the search results. Perhaps you should think about adding some alternate search landing pages .

I concur, IWU has the absolute worst search results page. I just sent to the index. Ratios, conversions and so forth have fallen apart after the 2.50 per join-no ratio period. I wonder why?

iwantchixx · 03-25-2005, 10:24 PM

what you guys need is a REAL geotargeting. What fucking good is it for me to send traffic from all over the world to a scheme like this:

http://www.iwantu.com/click/XXXXXXXX/0/search.love?.................................
Desired country country=XXX
Desired state/province region=XXX
Zip code zip=XXXXX

??????????????????????????????????

iwantchixx · 03-25-2005, 10:28 PM

I'm losing faith in this fast.

$8.25 earned from 1070 hits to iwantu

I purchased traffic for this. There's got to be something going on here.

Are that many people not filling out profiles?

I'm hitting up my rep to see what can be done before I push my bought traffic to something else.

simple simon · 03-25-2005, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx

I'm losing faith in this fast.

$8.25 earned from 1070 hits to iwantu

I purchased traffic for this. There's got to be something going on here.

Are that many people not filling out profiles?

I'm hitting up my rep to see what can be done before I push my bought traffic to something else.

not bad

Im laughing wih you

$5 submissions · 03-25-2005, 10:35 PM

I send them to a age limited search link (18 to 25) for African-American women. IWU's link system is very flexible and can be configured by sexual orientation, body style, state, ethnicity, etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx

Gene, how are you preselling? Are you explaining that they need to fill in a profile then search for mates or just sending them to the main tour with generic text?

I'm sending to tour with generic text, wa working good for email, not so good on per profile tho.

I'm setting up a site for a client right now preselling by getting them to fill in a profile to search for mates.

Curious to see how that works out.

iwantchixx · 03-25-2005, 10:37 PM

On the pay per email promotion I was averaging roughly 1:49 on all sources combined (I didn't have bought traffic then, just my own). On that same traffic it's much much much much worse not including the bought traffic now being sent as well..

This is rediculous.

iwantchixx · 03-25-2005, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions

I send them to a age limited search link (18 to 25) for African-American women. IWU's link system is very flexible and can be configured by sexual orientation, body style, state, ethnicity, etc.

Ah so your really targeting it hard. That's good for specific niched traffic.

Not good for general traffic.

Glad to see it's working out for you though.

$5 submissions · 03-25-2005, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx

Glad to see it's working out for you though.

Not quite.

As I mentioned earlier, the nice 10:1 ratio disappears if I try to pour on my other traffic (even if I filter it via straight to a profile or age range). So I just send it some of my ethnic traffic.

KRL · 03-25-2005, 11:29 PM

Next up the I Want U site partners program will be available for webmasters to use to drive traffic.

This will enable you to use Men.com banners for example to drive personals traffic. We're expecting the use of our high profile domain to dramatically increase the banner click rates for webmasters.

iwantchixx · 03-25-2005, 11:31 PM

aaah gotcha.

$5 submissions · 03-25-2005, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL

Next up the I Want U site partners program will be available for webmasters to use to drive traffic.

This will enable you to use Men.com banners for example to drive personals traffic. We're expecting the use of our high profile domain to dramatically increase the banner click rates for webmasters.

Interesting concept. I might give it a spin.

TKoProductions · 03-25-2005, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx

On the pay per email promotion I was averaging roughly 1:49 on all sources combined (I didn't have bought traffic then, just my own). On that same traffic it's much much much much worse not including the bought traffic now being sent as well..

This is rediculous.

iwantchixx, I may not understand your post, but the $2.50 promotion that iwantu had was per profile, not per email. Nothing has changed, you're still being paid per profile made. As far as I know, it's never been per email.

OzMan · 03-25-2005, 11:54 PM

I am also seeing strange numbers since the per email promotion ended.

If the payout had simply dropped from $2.50 to 0.50 I would expect my RPC to drop by 80% also, with same traffic.

However it has dropped by 85-90%.

So I am missing 5-10%

BUT this is pay per profile not per email, so where are all the people who didn't confirm their email or it got spam filtered out?

The wording on the signup page hasn't changed.

It still says you need a valid email to join.

So if 70% of people aren't confirming their email now, the same amount weren't confirming it before and I would expect a 70% increase in free members in the current pay per profile deal which would equate (it's late I may be wrong) to only about a 33% drop in RPC

example: 100 free joins

during $2.50 per email I would expect

100 x .3 x 2.50 = $75

during $0.50 per profile I would expect

100 x 0.50 = $50

So I am expecting a 33% drop but get an 85-90% drop

Is my math wrong?

KRL · 03-25-2005, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions

Interesting concept. I might give it a spin.

Thanks $5sub.

KRL · 03-26-2005, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan

I am also seeing strange numbers since the per email promotion ended.

If the payout had simply dropped from $2.50 to 0.50 I would expect my RPC to drop by 80% also, with same traffic.

However it has dropped by 85-90%.

So I am missing 5-10%

BUT this is pay per profile not per email, so where are all the people who didn't confirm their email or it got spam filtered out?

The wording on the signup page hasn't changed.

It still says you need a valid email to join.

So if 70% of people aren't confirming their email now, the same amount weren't confirming it before and I would expect a 70% increase in free members in the current pay per profile deal which would equate (it's late I may be wrong) to only about a 33% drop in RPC

example: 100 free joins

during $2.50 per email I would expect

100 x .3 x 2.50 = $75

during $0.50 per profile I would expect

100 x 0.50 = $50

So I am expecting a 33% drop but get an 85-90% drop

Is my math wrong?

Spam Filters and ISP based e-mail filters are a major issue for all the adult industry right now.

I put up a newsletter on Porno.com and we had people not able to confirm because of the porno.com domain in the confirmation e-mails that was getting filtered as junk mail.

TKoProductions · 03-26-2005, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan

I am also seeing strange numbers since the per email promotion ended.

You're the second person who has mentioned the "per email promotion."

It was never a per email signup.

During the $2.50 promotion, signups were made per profile made and not per email confirmed.

The current .50 payout continues to be credited per profile made.

TKoProductions · 03-26-2005, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL

Spam Filters and ISP based e-mail filters are a major issue for all the adult industry right now.

I put up a newsletter on Porno.com and we had people not able to confirm because of the porno.com domain in the confirmation e-mails that was getting filtered as junk mail.

Yea, filters are quite complicated, especially when they mess with a legitimate piece of mail.

I noticed during iwantu's $2.50 promo that the confirmation email wouldn't make AOL's inbox, and only 20-30% even made the spam folder.

Considering that the majority of my traffic is from AOL, I sure am glad that the promo was based on per profile, and not per email. A unique, and profitable concept given the dating programs out there.

OzMan · 03-26-2005, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TKoProductions

You're the second person who has mentioned the "per email promotion."

It was never a per email signup.

During the $2.50 promotion, signups were made per profile made and not per email confirmed.

The current .50 payout continues to be credited per profile made.

er no

Quote:

You wanted it, we did it.

$2.50 pay-per-email with NO RATIOS.

Starting now, you may promote IwantU.com and get paid nicely on FREE signups (also known as pay-per-email), without having to worry about any sliding scales or ratios!

from http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...ighlight=ratio

OzMan · 03-26-2005, 12:10 AM

BTW I'm certainly not dissing IWU, I am just confirming what Varius said earlier

Quote:

We're working on why the newer affiliates who came in during the $2.50 promo are converting so much less than our revshare/pps affiliates have been averaging. This week we will study some patterns and figure it out.

and I'm sure they will figure it out soon

TKoProductions · 03-26-2005, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan

er no

from http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...ighlight=ratio

Ok, don't believe me.

Sure, the surfer had to submit an email address. But they never had to confirm that email address as being valid. Even if they did confirm, guess what? You still were not credited the $2.50. You were only credited once they created and submitted a valid profile.

Now you tell me, is that per email? or per profile?

TKoProductions · 03-26-2005, 12:13 AM

I'm not arguing with you either, I could be entirely wrong. I'm not discounting that possibility. But given the tests that I made, this is what I discovered.

I'll let an official iwantu rep come up with an answer, as I'm definitely interested myself.

TKoProductions · 03-26-2005, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan

BTW I'm certainly not dissing IWU, I am just confirming what Varius said earlier

and I'm sure they will figure it out soon

Absolutely

You've got me wondering as well.

TKoProductions · 03-26-2005, 12:17 AM

Like iwantchixx, I too noticed a dramatic decrease in my ratio.

Couldn't figure out what happened, as it's the exact same traffic source.

Could be that alot of my traffic (as it is targeted) is hitting the beach for spring break.

We'll see what happens in the following weeks.

OzMan · 03-26-2005, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TKoProductions

Ok, don't believe me.

Sure, the surfer had to submit an email address. But they never had to confirm that email address as being valid. Even if they did confirm, guess what? You still were not credited the $2.50. You were only credited once they created and submitted a valid profile.

Now you tell me, is that per email? or per profile?

It's not that I don't believe you necessarily, it's that I am going on what the owners of the program stated.

pay per email means filling out a profile and confirming your email

pay per profile means just filling out the profile

Where do you get the

Quote:

But they never had to confirm that email address as being valid.

part from?

hydro · 03-26-2005, 12:21 AM

I can't remember what caused it so im not able to give you guys the details but go to your website where you have the ad hosted. Click on the link and perform a search. After you do a search click on a random profile and see if the submit form allows you to submit your details. I was having a problem with this not too long ago and found out that the form got cut off so people wouldn't be able to complete it or click submit which of course caused me to have some really bad ratios. You'll want to check it in internet explorer of course since i let it continue for 3 days and only checked with firefox. I guess i should have repoted this bug to iwantu as soon as i noticed it

TKoProductions · 03-26-2005, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan

It's not that I don't believe you necessarily, it's that I am going on what the owners of the program stated.

pay per email means filling out a profile and confirming your email

pay per profile means just filling out the profile

Where do you get the

part from?

I ran three tests:

1st Test: I signed up with a valid email address, and then received the mailer from iwantu and confirmed it as a valid address. I checked my stats, no credit. Then I waited 10 minutes. Checked again, no credit. Then, I created and submitted a valid profile, and instantly I was credited $2.50.

2nd Test: I signed up with a fake email address. I didn't even need to check the inbox as the address doesn't exist. I navigated over to the profile page, created and submitted a valid profile, and was instantly credited $2.50.

3rd Test: I signed up with a valid email address, and received the confirmation email, but did not open it, nor verify the email address. I again created and submitted a profile, and was instantly credited $2.50.

All this drew me to believe that it was pay per profile, and not pay per email.

And yes, I did contact my account rep (Lara) and she said that she would take care of debiting my account the $7.50.

OzMan · 03-26-2005, 12:36 AM

vewy intawesting tests indeed

TKoProductions · 03-26-2005, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzMan

vewy intawesting tests indeed

Before I dump traffic into a program I always run my own tests, regardless of the programs description. It helps me understand the signup process from the surfers perspective. If anything, it allows me to pre-sell better. I know what sort of design and description to use. It enables me to be more selective with my words. Its all about marketing.

So far, I've yet to run across a program that's had a problem with it. I explain what I've done, that no fraud was involved, and to just debit my account for the test signup.

They see the difference in my ratio's, so they're more than willing.

Varius · 03-26-2005, 01:06 AM

Hey all,

I see quite a bit of confusion in this thread, so I'll try and clear it up some

First, we have not yet to date ever ran a true "pay-per-email" program. With our $2.50 promotion, we called it that because that's what everyone was more used to hearing, instead of 'pay-per-free' or 'pay-per-profile'.

However, it never required you to confirm your email address, only to submit a valid profile.

The only thing that changed since that promotion and now, is the amount (from $2.50 to a $0.50 starting base)

If you were converting 10% free on the 2.50 program, you should still be converting the same now on 50 cents. Nothing has been changed in the signup or profile process in the past few weeks.

If your ratios with same type of traffic have dropped from the 2.50 program ot the 50 cents one, there is a problem somewhere. Please contact your rep so that it can be investigated on a case-by-case basis

Varius · 03-26-2005, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alky

Why would you do this? Just a loop hole to not pay affiliates?

I'm not sure what you mean...we don't require email validation from the member to use the site, but we credit affiliates on created profiles NOT confirmed emails as well....

So I don't get what loophole you are referring to ?

iwantu · 03-26-2005, 04:38 AM

The payout on the current promotion is PER PROFILE! No matter if the member verifies his email address or not.

Popular websites have problems reaching their members by email. Thus, we have 5 members submitting a profile for 1 member verifying his email address.

You are being paid on PER PROFILE. NO RATIO and NO QUESTION ASKED!

Of course, you may see a lower conversion compared to other websites, because we are showing you 5 times more members.

For those who's ratios dropped, please hit me by ICQ and we will see what went wrong (if any).

Also, do not forget our policy:

POLICY
-------

We guarantee to beat the competition by 5%:If you are earning more
with another DATING program, we will match your earnings and pay you 5% more. Guaranteed!

We guarantee your traffic: If our website is down for maintenance,
you will never loose any traffic or revenues. You will be compensted
for every minute of traffic lost, based on your previous week revenues.

03-25-2005, 02:12 PM	#1
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	How are people doing with IWantU per profile? I'm noticing a stark difference in generated income. From good ratios to practically non-existant. Seems people just aren't filling in profiles. has anyone else noticed a huge difference?

03-25-2005, 02:14 PM	#2
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03-25-2005, 04:29 PM	#4
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03-25-2005, 07:03 PM	#6
Varius Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 6,890	Hey iwantchixxx, You might want to try sending to either the join page itself, or the search results page to see if that helps your free conversion. You can get a list of all possible search params you can use from the Linkcode section, but here's an example: "Men seeking Women 19-28 within 100 miles of Bev Hills, CA" http://www.iwantu.com/click/campaign...nder_ seeking[]=2&zip=90210 You can ofcourse use many other options, from ethnicity to body type to whether they smoke or not. Hope this helps, if you don't see an increase in conversions, feel free to contact your rep so they look at your site/links and suggest improvements __________________ Skype variuscr - Email varius AT gmail

03-25-2005, 09:29 PM	#10
iwantu Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: IwantU.com Posts: 570	Geo Targeted search! Here it is all. Try that method and you will convert like crazy. Replace XXXXXXXXX by your campaign Id and check the link code section for more details. How to send hits to profiles search? The most effective way to market a dating website is to send traffic directly to the search results. Follow the example below and replace the dots (...) by the desired variables to reflect your search criteria. http://www.iwantu.com/click/XXXXXXXX/0/search.love?................................. Desired country country=XXX Desired state/province region=XXX Zip code zip=XXXXX You will receive all matches at 100 miles away from this zip or postal code (us canada only) Note: If you do not enter any value for country, region or zip code, profiles will automatically be displayed from the corresponding country of the surfer. What seeking genders you want to show? gender_seeking[]=X 1=men 2=women 3=couples 4=groups What orientation you want to seek? gender=X 1=men 2=women 3=couples 4=groups Any age criterias? age_min=XX age_max=XX age_min=18 age_max=99 Any preferred Body type? body[]=X 1=slim 2=Athletic 3=Proportional 4=Few extra pounds 5=Overweight Would you like to show profiles with pictures only? picture=1 Any particular cultural heritage? heritage[]=X 1=Caucasian (white) 2=African American 3=First nation 4=Hispanic 5=Asian 6=Middle Eastern 7=African Examples: If you want to show profiles of slim Hispanic women between 18 and 25? http://www.iwantu.com/click/XXXXXXXX...ge_max=25&body[]=1&heritage[]=4 if you want to show the profiles of proportional and athletic gay men? http://www.iwantu.com/click/XXXXXXXX...&gender=1&body[]=2&body[]=3 if you want to show the profiles of women seeking couples in California http://www.iwantu.com/click/XXXXXXXX...r=3&state=3839 How to send hits to a member page? To send traffic to a member's page you should use: http://www.iwantu.com/click/XXXXXXXX/0/members/handle Replace handle by the nickname of the member you want to show For example: If you wish to send traffic to the profile of user kwellchick, you must use this link: http://www.iwantu.com/click/XXXXXXXX...ers/kwellchick How to send hits to the Join Page? http://www.iwantu.com/click/XXXXXXXX/0/join.love How to send hits to a different club? http://www.iwantu.com/click/XXXXXXXX/0/dating/ http://www.iwantu.com/click/XXXXXXXX/0/adult http://www.iwantu.com/click/XXXXXXXX/0/alt/ Note that you can link to any page within the club, for example: http://www.iwantu.com/click/XXXXXXXX...g/success.love http://www.iwantu.com/click/XXXXXXXX/0/alt/join.love __________________ $100 PPS Promotion -------- Michael M ICQ: 551-376 http://affiliate.IwantU.com Our members get laid, our affiliates get paid

03-25-2005, 04:10 PM	#3
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	bump - anyone else?

03-25-2005, 06:54 PM	#5
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	Gene, how are you preselling? Are you explaining that they need to fill in a profile then search for mates or just sending them to the main tour with generic text? I'm sending to tour with generic text, wa working good for email, not so good on per profile tho. I'm setting up a site for a client right now preselling by getting them to fill in a profile to search for mates. Curious to see how that works out.

03-25-2005, 07:05 PM	#7
Xplicit Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: █◄►█ Posts: 3,558	Free signups are fine, paid sales are horrable. Since you need good paid sales to get paid more than .50cents, I took my links down. I don't notice a better ratio with people not having to confirm their email addresses either. I think most people ASSUME they need to confirm nowdays anyway so they put in a real email addy. I'm going to wait a few weeks to see if any more freejoins convert to paid, then i'll decide if i'll continue with them.

03-25-2005, 07:16 PM	#9
gh0st So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 928	SEE SIG, WIN 350 WORTH OF SOFTWARE, DESIGN WORK AND MY NICK! START BUMPING

03-25-2005, 10:13 PM	#12
darnoth Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 105	While sending directly to the search page works well for me on other dating sites.. sending to yours actually made my ratio worse. The thumbnails are too small, the next is hard to read, and really I just can't tell what you are showing me when I look at the search results. Perhaps you should think about adding some alternate search landing pages .

03-25-2005, 10:24 PM	#14
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	what you guys need is a REAL geotargeting. What fucking good is it for me to send traffic from all over the world to a scheme like this: http://www.iwantu.com/click/XXXXXXXX/0/search.love?................................. Desired country country=XXX Desired state/province region=XXX Zip code zip=XXXXX ??????????????????????????????????

03-25-2005, 10:28 PM	#15
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	I'm losing faith in this fast. $8.25 earned from 1070 hits to iwantu I purchased traffic for this. There's got to be something going on here. Are that many people not filling out profiles? I'm hitting up my rep to see what can be done before I push my bought traffic to something else.

03-25-2005, 10:37 PM	#18
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	On the pay per email promotion I was averaging roughly 1:49 on all sources combined (I didn't have bought traffic then, just my own). On that same traffic it's much much much much worse not including the bought traffic now being sent as well.. This is rediculous.

03-25-2005, 11:29 PM	#21
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03-25-2005, 11:31 PM	#22
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	aaah gotcha.

03-25-2005, 11:54 PM	#25
OzMan Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Begas Posts: 9,162	I am also seeing strange numbers since the per email promotion ended. If the payout had simply dropped from $2.50 to 0.50 I would expect my RPC to drop by 80% also, with same traffic. However it has dropped by 85-90%. So I am missing 5-10% BUT this is pay per profile not per email, so where are all the people who didn't confirm their email or it got spam filtered out? The wording on the signup page hasn't changed. It still says you need a valid email to join. So if 70% of people aren't confirming their email now, the same amount weren't confirming it before and I would expect a 70% increase in free members in the current pay per profile deal which would equate (it's late I may be wrong) to only about a 33% drop in RPC example: 100 free joins during $2.50 per email I would expect 100 x .3 x 2.50 = $75 during $0.50 per profile I would expect 100 x 0.50 = $50 So I am expecting a 33% drop but get an 85-90% drop Is my math wrong?

03-26-2005, 12:13 AM	#33
TKoProductions Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 673	I'm not arguing with you either, I could be entirely wrong. I'm not discounting that possibility. But given the tests that I made, this is what I discovered. I'll let an official iwantu rep come up with an answer, as I'm definitely interested myself. Last edited by TKoProductions; 03-26-2005 at 12:14 AM..

03-26-2005, 12:17 AM	#35
TKoProductions Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 673	Like iwantchixx, I too noticed a dramatic decrease in my ratio. Couldn't figure out what happened, as it's the exact same traffic source. Could be that alot of my traffic (as it is targeted) is hitting the beach for spring break. We'll see what happens in the following weeks.

03-26-2005, 12:21 AM	#37
hydro Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dirty 3rd Posts: 4,216	I can't remember what caused it so im not able to give you guys the details but go to your website where you have the ad hosted. Click on the link and perform a search. After you do a search click on a random profile and see if the submit form allows you to submit your details. I was having a problem with this not too long ago and found out that the form got cut off so people wouldn't be able to complete it or click submit which of course caused me to have some really bad ratios. You'll want to check it in internet explorer of course since i let it continue for 3 days and only checked with firefox. I guess i should have repoted this bug to iwantu as soon as i noticed it

03-26-2005, 12:36 AM	#39
OzMan Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Begas Posts: 9,162	vewy intawesting tests indeed

03-26-2005, 01:06 AM	#41
Varius Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 6,890	Hey all, I see quite a bit of confusion in this thread, so I'll try and clear it up some First, we have not yet to date ever ran a true "pay-per-email" program. With our $2.50 promotion, we called it that because that's what everyone was more used to hearing, instead of 'pay-per-free' or 'pay-per-profile'. However, it never required you to confirm your email address, only to submit a valid profile. The only thing that changed since that promotion and now, is the amount (from $2.50 to a $0.50 starting base) If you were converting 10% free on the 2.50 program, you should still be converting the same now on 50 cents. Nothing has been changed in the signup or profile process in the past few weeks. If your ratios with same type of traffic have dropped from the 2.50 program ot the 50 cents one, there is a problem somewhere. Please contact your rep so that it can be investigated on a case-by-case basis __________________ Skype variuscr - Email varius AT gmail

03-26-2005, 04:38 AM	#43
iwantu Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: IwantU.com Posts: 570	The payout on the current promotion is PER PROFILE! No matter if the member verifies his email address or not. Popular websites have problems reaching their members by email. Thus, we have 5 members submitting a profile for 1 member verifying his email address. You are being paid on PER PROFILE. NO RATIO and NO QUESTION ASKED! Of course, you may see a lower conversion compared to other websites, because we are showing you 5 times more members. For those who's ratios dropped, please hit me by ICQ and we will see what went wrong (if any). Also, do not forget our policy: POLICY ------- We guarantee to beat the competition by 5%:If you are earning more with another DATING program, we will match your earnings and pay you 5% more. Guaranteed! We guarantee your traffic: If our website is down for maintenance, you will never loose any traffic or revenues. You will be compensted for every minute of traffic lost, based on your previous week revenues. __________________ $100 PPS Promotion -------- Michael M ICQ: 551-376 http://affiliate.IwantU.com Our members get laid, our affiliates get paid