Bigger affiliates, how are your sales patterns? - GoFuckYourself.com

biskoppen · 03-22-2005, 09:26 AM

The past 6 hours we only had 1 sale with CCBILL, the previous 6 hours we had 23 sales..
Our servers are and have been running all the time smoothly - our traffic is stable.
1.2 - 1.7 mill. uniques each day (to our galleries)

Are we really the only ones having these insane patterns every other day?

This is not a CCBILL bitching thread - I just want to know now if this is perfectly normal..
to me it seems 100% impossible...

My guess is that I've experienced these mysterious holes without sales like 50 times now
and 10 of those times I've done test signups and as fare as I remember they always came through.
So all shows me that this isn't a CCBILL problem.

Please note on my screenshot that the sales are not slowly fading to a stop, they just STOP after hours
of steady sales.

The explanation is not that those hours are just dead saleswise, because we have tons of
other days with 23+ sales in those 6 hours. This thing just happens like every 3-5 day or so.

This is not just a CCBILL issue. We recently had a spot on Sleazy (for a non ccbill site) doing a stunning 18 sales on the first day, so
we ordered another spot for the same site using the same gallery template using content from the same update. This
second spot came on a week after (no one else promoted the same site on Sleazy meanwhile) .. the second spot did 1 sale the
first day...

All I'm asking .. is this really normal?.. we have sites that NEVER shows this strange behaviour - we can run spots with it
over and over again and the sales are always stable

Creative responds only please.. from 30+ sales a day affiliates

bigdog · 03-22-2005, 09:38 AM

Gallery game is a bitch even on high spots one day 40 joins a week later same template 5-10 joins. The only way are you are really going to know if a sponsor is fucking with your numbers is to be your own sponsor

biskoppen · 03-22-2005, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bigdog

Gallery game is a bitch even on high spots one day 40 joins a week later same template 5-10 joins. The only way are you are really going to know if a sponsor is fucking with your numbers is to be your own sponsor

I don't think this is a sponsor fucking-with thing .. I'm more thinking a big trojan or something stealing the sales... the mentioned 18 and 1 sales thing was a sponsor using NATS which shouldn't be able to shave.. and then again - who would shave that much, it would be ridiculous..

bigdog · 03-22-2005, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by biskoppen

I don't think this is a sponsor fucking-with thing .. I'm more thinking a big trojan or something stealing the sales... the mentioned 18 and 1 sales thing was a sponsor using NATS which shouldn't be able to shave.. and then again - who would shave that much, it would be ridiculous..

Yeah spyware is pretty bad these days. You will never know what is happening on the surfer end. Your affilatie id could be changed or there is another similar site popping up due to spyware

bigdog · 03-22-2005, 12:56 PM

bump for a good thread

gazool · 03-22-2005, 01:43 PM

bump bump cause one mubp wasnt enough

bringer · 03-22-2005, 01:46 PM

sales seem to stumble on ccbill often to extremes. good sales that seem correct and go along with other programs OR 0 sales all day

Sosa · 03-22-2005, 01:49 PM

my sales have been shit for pretty much the past 2 weeks with ccbill. maybe 2-3 good days but then I'm right back up there to have shitty days.

andrej_NDC · 03-22-2005, 02:19 PM

since the stats problem ccbill had around 1 week ago, my sales are shit, somebody over there should realize the problem

andrej_NDC · 03-22-2005, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdog

Gallery game is a bitch even on high spots one day 40 joins a week later same template 5-10 joins.

not true, if you know what you do, its pretty stable

bigdog · 03-22-2005, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

not true, if you know what you do, its pretty stable

everyone gets different results

andrej_NDC · 03-22-2005, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdog

everyone gets different results

thats true, but everyone has different methods

Diligent · 03-22-2005, 02:41 PM

I'm definitely guessing it's hijacking spyware.

I can imagine the algorithms in such:
"Redirect during randomized time-intervals" - On/Off...

I think the Adult industry needs to create & distribute an own equivalent
to AdAware / SpyBot Search-And-Destroy.
The regular software used either don't catch the crap doing this or a great
deal of all surfers just have not even heard about these things.

If one would put on a tin-foil hat... one could start suspecting all kinds of things.

The only thing I'm thinking now though... is that hijacking IS happening.
The question is: is it really THIS big?

bigdog · 03-22-2005, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

thats true, but everyone has different methods

hehe i bow to nextdoorcash

slapass · 03-22-2005, 03:14 PM

I noticed the same thing yesterday. I am not a 30 a day with ccbill but my traffic is stable and when I see that I have 10% of my daily average of sales at 4 in the afternoon I know something is up. I hope it catches up as yesterday we got a spurt towards the end of the day. Are they delaying sales or something?

andrej_NDC · 03-22-2005, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdog

hehe i bow to nextdoorcash

gazool · 03-22-2005, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

not true, if you know what you do, its pretty stable

I second that!

andrej_NDC · 03-22-2005, 05:40 PM

>>bump<<

03-22-2005, 09:26 AM	#1
biskoppen Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Very small penis Posts: 5,809	Bigger affiliates, how are your sales patterns? The past 6 hours we only had 1 sale with CCBILL, the previous 6 hours we had 23 sales.. Our servers are and have been running all the time smoothly - our traffic is stable. 1.2 - 1.7 mill. uniques each day (to our galleries) Are we really the only ones having these insane patterns every other day? This is not a CCBILL bitching thread - I just want to know now if this is perfectly normal.. to me it seems 100% impossible... My guess is that I've experienced these mysterious holes without sales like 50 times now and 10 of those times I've done test signups and as fare as I remember they always came through. So all shows me that this isn't a CCBILL problem. Please note on my screenshot that the sales are not slowly fading to a stop, they just STOP after hours of steady sales. The explanation is not that those hours are just dead saleswise, because we have tons of other days with 23+ sales in those 6 hours. This thing just happens like every 3-5 day or so. This is not just a CCBILL issue. We recently had a spot on Sleazy (for a non ccbill site) doing a stunning 18 sales on the first day, so we ordered another spot for the same site using the same gallery template using content from the same update. This second spot came on a week after (no one else promoted the same site on Sleazy meanwhile) .. the second spot did 1 sale the first day... All I'm asking .. is this really normal?.. we have sites that NEVER shows this strange behaviour - we can run spots with it over and over again and the sales are always stable Creative responds only please.. from 30+ sales a day affiliates __________________ Submit my videos to make bank, tons of 5 minute videos offered right here

03-22-2005, 09:38 AM	#2
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	Gallery game is a bitch even on high spots one day 40 joins a week later same template 5-10 joins. The only way are you are really going to know if a sponsor is fucking with your numbers is to be your own sponsor Last edited by bigdog; 03-22-2005 at 09:40 AM..

03-22-2005, 01:43 PM	#6
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03-22-2005, 01:46 PM	#7
bringer i have man boobies Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: van down by the river Posts: 13,082	sales seem to stumble on ccbill often to extremes. good sales that seem correct and go along with other programs OR 0 sales all day __________________ 333-765-551

03-22-2005, 02:41 PM	#13
Diligent Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hoy Suecia, mañana Nirvana Posts: 1,594	I'm definitely guessing it's hijacking spyware. I can imagine the algorithms in such: "Redirect during randomized time-intervals" - On/Off... I think the Adult industry needs to create & distribute an own equivalent to AdAware / SpyBot Search-And-Destroy. The regular software used either don't catch the crap doing this or a great deal of all surfers just have not even heard about these things. If one would put on a tin-foil hat... one could start suspecting all kinds of things. The only thing I'm thinking now though... is that hijacking IS happening. The question is: is it really THIS big? __________________ ~¤~ MORE MONEY ~¤~ VOD? XoD! ~¤~ ~¤~ ICQ# 9828 2461 ~¤~

03-22-2005, 12:56 PM	#5
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	bump for a good thread

03-22-2005, 01:49 PM	#8
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	my sales have been shit for pretty much the past 2 weeks with ccbill. maybe 2-3 good days but then I'm right back up there to have shitty days.

03-22-2005, 02:19 PM	#9
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	since the stats problem ccbill had around 1 week ago, my sales are shit, somebody over there should realize the problem

03-22-2005, 03:14 PM	#15
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	I noticed the same thing yesterday. I am not a 30 a day with ccbill but my traffic is stable and when I see that I have 10% of my daily average of sales at 4 in the afternoon I know something is up. I hope it catches up as yesterday we got a spurt towards the end of the day. Are they delaying sales or something?

03-22-2005, 05:40 PM	#18
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	>>bump<<