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Old 03-20-2005, 06:21 PM   #101
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Old 03-20-2005, 06:28 PM   #102
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i dont need a gun. i have a wife who will nag you to death.

lol, that's a good one!
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Old 03-20-2005, 06:34 PM   #103
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I wonder how close we are to inventing laser guns.
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Violence Begets Violence

This study is dated, but still quite revealing...

1994 World Bank study of statistics supplied by the 36 richest countries in the world.

Of the 88,649 gun deaths reported by all the countries, the United States accounted for 45 percent.

Japan, where very few people own guns, averages 124 gun-related attacks a year, and less than 1 percent end in death. Police often raid the homes of those suspected of having weapons.

The study found that gun-related deaths were five to six times higher in the Americas than in Europe or Australia and New Zealand and 95 times higher than in Asia.

Here are gun-related deaths per 100,000 people in the world's 36 richest countries in 1994:

United States 14.24
Brazil 12.95
Mexico 12.69
Estonia 12.26
Argentina 8.93
Northern Ireland 6.63
Finland 6.46
Switzerland 5.31
France 5.15
Canada 4.31
Norway 3.82
Austria 3.70
Portugal 3.20
Israel 2.91
Belgium 2.90
Australia 2.65
Slovenia 2.60
Italy 2.44
New Zealand 2.38
Denmark 2.09
Sweden 1.92
Kuwait 1.84
Greece 1.29
Germany 1.24
Hungary 1.11
Republic of Ireland 0.97
Spain 0.78
Netherlands 0.70
Scotland 0.54
England and Wales 0.41
Taiwan 0.37
Singapore 0.21
Mauritius 0.19
Hong Kong 0.14
South Korea 0.12
Japan 0.05

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I have a few guns. I want a SPAS really bad though. oh yeah
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Old 03-20-2005, 07:18 PM   #106
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http://www.amazing1.com/burning-lasers.htm

They sell burning laser guns. So i think we are getting close
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Nice how you include only 'accidental gun deaths' and not total gun deaths or injuries.

FACT:In 2002, there were 30,242 gun deaths in the U.S:

* 17,108 suicides (56% of all U.S gun deaths),
* 11,829 homicides (39% of all U.S gun deaths),
* 762 unintentional shootings (3% of all U.S gun deaths),
* and 300 from legal intervention and 243 from undetermined intent (2% of all U.S gun deaths combined).


FACT: A gun in the home increases the risk of homicide of a household member by 3 times and the risk of suicide by 5 times compared to homes where no gun is present.

FACT: Contrary to popular belief, young children do possess the physical strength to fire a gun: 25% of 3-to-4-year-olds, 70% of 5-to-6-year-olds, and 90% of 7-to-8-year-olds can fire most handguns.

FACT: Among 26 industrialized nations, 86% of gun deaths among children under age 15 occurred in the United States.

FACT: Taxpayers pay more than 85% of the medical cost for treatment of firearm-related injuries.

FACT: While handguns account for only one-third of all firearms owned in the United States, they account for more than two-thirds of all firearm-related deaths each year. A gun kept in the home is 22 times more likely to be used in a homicide, suicide or unintentional shooting than to be used in self-defense.

FACT: Every two years more Americans die from firearm injuries than the total number of American soldiers killed during the 8-year Vietnam War. In 1999, the total number of people killed by guns in the United States was 28,874,a 6% decrease from 1998 figures.
then again it is not because of the gun itself... its like anything, you can never pin it down to one...for every experienced gun collectioner theres a fucking junky who fucks it up for the rest.. BUT...if that stupid junky had decided to kill lets say his mother, but had spent all the money he had on freebase, you think it'll stop him from non-surgically remove her vocal chords with his teeth?

as far as suicides that shit is just blatant...who the fuck decides not to kill himself cuz he does not own a gun%?!\%

now chances are that X junky will kill another Y gun-owning junky, or sumtin like that. all those dead people werent fucking saints...they had dope debts, too much mouth, whatever it was, it was enough for someone to decide to end his life...
everybody that works illegally is aware that they practically have no legal recourses, wether its on the good or bad side of the gun, therefore they are aware of the possible outcome. if you cant stand the heat...do i have to say it?

as far as lost bullets, or hollywood-movie typa situations...they DO happen...and thats unfair

since WHEN has life been fair...cars kill people everyday, i dont see you ride yo fuckin bike to work... and if you do, you might just put yourself at risk and get hit by a vehicle and BOOM, be the first case of bicycle suicide ever??

i got an idea, lets forbid EVERYTHING

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Old 03-20-2005, 08:01 PM   #110
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I own several guns...pistols...rifles...shotguns. I was given my first gun when I was ten or eleven years old. I don't hunt any longer and I seldom target shoot anymore...but will keep my guns anyhow...thank you very much.
The fact that you have any guns is good enough reason to trash em!!

You have expressed your views and if anyone thinks they are stable and balanced............ add a gun to that and ya got "take out time"
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Yes...at the Federal level but some States...if not most States...still have them banned and the States have that right.
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Nice how you include only 'accidental gun deaths' and not total gun deaths or injuries.

FACT:In 2002, there were 30,242 gun deaths in the U.S:

* 17,108 suicides (56% of all U.S gun deaths),
* 11,829 homicides (39% of all U.S gun deaths),
* 762 unintentional shootings (3% of all U.S gun deaths),
* and 300 from legal intervention and 243 from undetermined intent (2% of all U.S gun deaths combined).


FACT: A gun in the home increases the risk of homicide of a household member by 3 times and the risk of suicide by 5 times compared to homes where no gun is present.

FACT: Contrary to popular belief, young children do possess the physical strength to fire a gun: 25% of 3-to-4-year-olds, 70% of 5-to-6-year-olds, and 90% of 7-to-8-year-olds can fire most handguns.

FACT: Among 26 industrialized nations, 86% of gun deaths among children under age 15 occurred in the United States.

FACT: Taxpayers pay more than 85% of the medical cost for treatment of firearm-related injuries.

FACT: While handguns account for only one-third of all firearms owned in the United States, they account for more than two-thirds of all firearm-related deaths each year. A gun kept in the home is 22 times more likely to be used in a homicide, suicide or unintentional shooting than to be used in self-defense.

FACT: Every two years more Americans die from firearm injuries than the total number of American soldiers killed during the 8-year Vietnam War. In 1999, the total number of people killed by guns in the United States was 28,874,a 6% decrease from 1998 figures.
Guess you didnt read my "im sure this is off but..."

whatever.... you still have no argument even at 30k if doc's do actually kill 120k people per year.

That's still 4X teh amount..

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I still doubt these statistics.

FACT: 72% of all statistics are totally wrong!
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Never owned one enver will don't need one. try breaking into my house motherfuckers. I don't need a gun to kill you or to prove I'm a man because I have a small penis and I need a gun to compensate.
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Never owned one enver will don't need one. try breaking into my house motherfuckers. I don't need a gun to kill you or to prove I'm a man because I have a small penis and I need a gun to compensate.
That burglar will have cold steel to your forhead and you will drop to your knees in a puddle of your own urine. Dont be silly.

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Never owned one enver will don't need one. try breaking into my house motherfuckers. I don't need a gun to kill you or to prove I'm a man because I have a small penis and I need a gun to compensate.
WTF makes you think the burglar wont have a knife or gun?? What if theres 2 of them? When they pop your ass or simply over power or out number you atleast your friends can say, "hey atleast GatorB wasn't a gun owning pussy he went out swinging his keyboard at those thugs"


I'll never understand why people think you need to fight fair when somone is breaking into your house. Yea when you have an arguement with someone, use your fists, but when someone is breaking into your house the burglar is the first to fight dirty by trying to suprise you so why the fuck do I need to give them a fighting chance when I was minding my own fucking business??? Fucking idiots.....
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Dont have a gun...

But i have this one on my backyard LOL!!!

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Just a few......... The rest are out of site Including a couple of 357's a Winchester 30/30 and my 50 caliber muzzleloader



Theres a .17 caliber plinker, a 25-06 rifle, a couple pf 30/30's a 12 turkey gun and a Remington 870, and my 14 year old nieces Daisy air rifles

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But i have this one on my backyard LOL!!!

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I have SS192 rounds, although FN has been ordered to discontinue this round its perfectly legal to buy whatever is left on the market. As for it not being able to penetrate body armor:
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(CNN) -- A student on Monday killed two of his grandparents, then went on a shooting rampage at his Minnesota high school, killing seven people and wounding as many as 13 others before killing himself, officials said.

FBI Special Agent Paul McCabe told reporters the dead include a female teacher, a male security officer and four students at Red Lake High School.

"We believe that one of those students is the shooter," McCabe said.

The FBI office in Minneapolis later said two more wounded students had died.

The school, about 240 miles north of the Twin Cities, was evacuated and locked down, McCabe said.

"At this time, we believe he was acting alone," he said, refusing to comment on a possible motive, adding, "It's far too early in the investigation."

The slain students were shot in one room, he said.

"Apparently, he walked down the hallway shooting and then he entered a classroom, he shot several students and a teacher, then himself," said Roman Stately, with the Red Lake Fire Department, who arrived at the high school moments after the shootings.

Authorities discovered about an hour later that the boy had shot and killed his grandmother and grandfather, a veteran of the police force, Stately told KARE-TV.

Stately said the boy used his grandfather's police-issued weapon in the school rampage.
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lmfao !!

na, according to these guys using a gun to defend yourself, even if the bad guy has one is "pussy like" the "macho" thing to do would have been to box it out with the guy as he shoots at you.

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Originally Posted by Franck
Why do you need a gun? Dont you know that guns cause really bad accidents?
we still have huge animal populations and I enjoy an elk steak instead of beef..so that being said.. We have 5 guns in our house.
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