50 people who think having gun is safer than not having one.

we don't but we're definitely thinking about getting one.

The full-frame .45 Glock is just too big for most people. I know a few people who carry the compact .45 with no problem though. I carried a 22 and 23 for close to 8 of my ten years as a duty/backup weapon, never had a problem. I pumped thousands of rounds through both of them and never had any major hand problems. I did have problems with Sigs, the .357 beat the shit out of most of us (5000-6000 rounds a month). Prolly had something to do with more metal in the frames, etc. Why the governament went to Sigs for some agencies and not others I will never fully understand.

edit - On the Glocks, the newer frame style that came out around 4 years ago with the grooves in the handle didn't help anything. If your fingers didn't fit in them snuggly it sucked.

last christmas i bought 20 airsofts and gave em out to my friends. so yes, i have a gun in my house right now. airsoft. 6mm baby.

Guns are for pussies imo

my boyfriend has guns, so i have guns.

- caiga ak47
- 10 and 12 ga rifles
- beretta .357 (my favorite)
- .22 handgun
- s&w .40 (my boyfriend's favorite)

at first i wasn't too happy about them, but as i learned more i began to feel a lot safer. i keep the .357 close by for the creeps that come around occassionally.

You live in texas what do you need protection from? Extreme heat?

People who say things are for pussies are pussies imo.

I am a pussy, imo :)

When I was in the marines no one got shot, and there were a lot more guns ;-).

Besides, the only statistic I care about is here.

YOU ARE CRAZY AMERICAN

I don't care about the rest of the country, BUT Texas is where everyone has a gun. HUGE difference between the USA and Texas.

12 ga. Ithaca over/under featherlight trap and skeet (Pre-SKB buyout). Has the pheasant and lab engraving on the sides

Colt Woodsman .22 LR match target (bullseye engraving, 7" barrel)

Interarms Viscount 7mm mag. bolt action. I love this rifle/round - flat trajectory at 300 yards with standard ammo.

20 ga. HR Topper single (my first gun when I was about 14).

Teflon? Is that so the bullets doesn't stick? ;-)

Those have to be worth a TON of money - they're the only ones in existence :1orglaugh

I don't live in west texas.

i maybe once had a real gun in my hands, lol

And Texas has one of the highest murder rates in the country, what does that say.

Tells me I need to get a bigger gun.

Hand guns? That's so amateurish.

I use the Peacekeeper ICBM that I bought from eBay (the reserve price was quite high tho)

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/sy...18-dvic439.jpg

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/sy...es/slide29.jpg

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/sy...eentry-kmr.jpg

i have a hammer

What the hell is the last picture with the light beams?

Glock, gat, piece

Got 'em all right here. For bustin' caps in asses only.

looks like a giant dildo

I meant shotguns... whoops.

My dad owns over 50 guns, handguns and rifles. No one in my family has even been shot, and 3 kids grew up in that house. We all learned how to shoot them and handle them of course. I plan on buying a few for myself pretty soon. Those statistics are not reliable. How many times can someone get drunk and say "oh it was an accident" and get away with it!

Some may wish to discredit stats from the FBI blah that guns in the hands of *anyone* cause more damage, often to themselves, than anyone else.

This is not even a valid point for discussion - that is simply common sense where the facts speak for themselves.

Many people do have a gun and know what they are doing and have it secured. Others have one to supplement their ego, compare it to dick size, and "think" they know what they are doing. This is the element, more than others, that causes a problem - along with "mental instability", which is common in every neighborhood.

In Texas I know of "government officers" who would like to see guns removed from the public - they are getting pissed being shot at by retards, many of whom are "kids" (13 - 18) who are then thrown in to Juvenile Hall for the week and released back on to the street. ( Hell.. they even "trade" arms!!)

These same officers can quote so many cases where guns "used for protection" have decimated families thru some member of the family accessing a gun in the house. There was another instance very recently of a small child shooting his equally small bother/sister while playing "gun games". Ya can blame the parents blah, but it's the culture that has the problem.

All this shit metal needs trashing, - other than for valid law enforcement - and starting fresh. The "right to bear arms" was a leftover from a few centuries ago. The wild west has ended. I'd hate to think of the results if all countries adopted the same idiot gun culture as the US.

does my waterpistol count ?

And I'll ask again like I did in another thread: how do they propose to do this? If they pass laws that owning a gun is illegal, only the criminals will have guns. Yeah, that sounds like a GREAT plan. :Oh crap

its a reaction, not a cause.. if you reason into thinking buying a gun is a good idea, chances are you ALREADY expose yourself and others to some level of risks, and you do not give a fuck...if you depict self-defense as an ideal of fully moral & legal right, know that you will never (ok 99.9% of the time) need a gun in a fully moral & legal situation.. a gun is NOT needed for protection...however if you owe money to the bikers and theyre knocking at your door, you might want to "SELF-DEFEND" their brains in confetties :) if you do not like guns, dont interfere and let the wolves exterminate themselves

en bon québécois, "petite nature"

:)

I have a walther P99 .9MM

Nuclear weapons dont kill people, people do

http://nuclear-weapon.wikiverse.org/..._aftermath.jpg
The aftermath of the Hiroshima bombing

Sadly Peaches - it ain't gonna happen.

There are too many folks with a vested interest - and money - and this is already messed up with politics and "contaminated".

It would take their families to die before it hit em in the face.

Sure.. there are nothing "wrong" with guns as such - it's people that are the problem :-) And... sure ain't easy to have get a resolution and suspect this would take generations to implement.

Criminals owning... This is probably the main reason/excuse as to why others feel the need to have guns. Attacking that rigidly *may* help restore faith and subdue the general public into thinking they need a gun. Tho, a very high proportion of gun-related incidents are not from "real criminals", but kids and others who just went nuts. Something can be done with kids - the nutty element will always be there.

On "real criminals" - they will always access guns where they have a need. It's the same in other countries tho the "accessibility" makes it easier for all. Jailing criminals may be a punishment - but doubt that is enough to deter them - hell knows the solution to that, but maybe "total removal of all assets" for anyone involved in a criminal action with the use of firearms. But... without help to "go straight" - that can have a backlash effect :-)

It is "normal people" that probably have most problems with guns around - from what may start as a simple domestic dispute ends up a disaster area or, some small child finding his Dad's gun ends up blowing his face off or, the teen who has little parental supervision and decides with a friend to hold up the local liquor store out of some stupid bravdo.

That latter incident happened within the last year in one State - an undercover officer happened to be in the "back shop" at the time and saw two masked attackers reach the cashpoint. They shot into the counter area and the girl behind the counter dropped to the floor. The officer thought she had just been killed and shot the hat off one of the robbers and he froze and "hit the dirt" - the other ran out the door. When she removed the mask off this person - it was a 13 year old kid in a state of shock. The girl behind the counter had just fainted - best place for her at that time was unconcious behind the cashpoint. Both of them were caught - the other was 16 years of age - both spent some time in Juvenile Hall and back on the street now. That officer was pleased she did not shoot to kill that kid (she normally goes for the legs, depending on circumstances) - but, he could have caused grief for a few people by his actions. Gun "accessibility" is a big problem - these kids had two guns each :-)

I have what ash calls a "boomstick".

Though on another note Mikhail Kalashnikov (still alive by the way) is litterally the man who is responsible for the most lethal gun in history. Must give respect to that gun, only 8 moving parts, no wonder it is so damn reliable.

I feel sorry for people that need a gun for self defense. A sad way of living.

It is very sad. It's sad that we have to use them for protection alone, but it has always been this way.

Sig P220

If guns kill people than I can blame mispelled words on my pencil. It is never the gun it is the dipshit behind it or that is handling it. The gun just sits there untill a PERSON picks it up, points it, and triggers it.

Guns can be used for alot of fun things, such as target shooting or hunting.

im sure this is off.... but it's an interesting concept:


1. Number of physicians in the US: 700,000.

2. Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year: 120,000.

3. Accidental deaths per physician.... 0.171
(U.S. Dept. of Health & Human Services)

4. Number of gun owners in the US: 80,000,000.

5. Number of accidental gun deaths per year
(all age groups): 1,500.

6. Accidental deaths per gun owner: 0.0000188.

7. Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times
more dangerous than gun owners.

Note: Not everyone has a gun, but everyone has at least one Doctor.

Almost everyone has a car. I wonder what those statics are vs. those who own a gun.

In the US, there are about 40,000 deaths per year in automobile
accidents.

Sounds like its worse to go to the doc -lol.

Did you see the missile launching in the first picture?
Well that missile has multiple warheads. Each warhead can be configured to hit a different target.

So if USA wanted to nuke England, it could launch that missile from Nevada or somewhere in the Indian ocean from a nuclear submarine, the missile will reach Ireland's airspace and split into 8 smaller missiles, one of those missiles will nuke London city, the 2nd one goes to Manchester city 100 miles away North-West, the 3rd Glasgow city, the 4th to some small village, and the rest to either hit the targets again to make sure there are no survivours or send them to France and Germany :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

And these missiles are thermo-nuclear and not A-bombs that were used in Hiroshima and are 100x more destructive.

USA, Russia, UK and France have these missiles, the rest of nuclear countries are not as advanced.

See http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/systems/lgm-118.htm for more info.

IIRC, if that missile hits a city, no living creature will be able to live or go through it for the next 2,000 years and it'll affect Earth's atmosphere.

Guns are for girlies, I use my fists in combat - the oldschool way :thumbsup

Nice how you include only 'accidental gun deaths' and not total gun deaths or injuries.

FACT:In 2002, there were 30,242 gun deaths in the U.S:

* 17,108 suicides (56% of all U.S gun deaths),
* 11,829 homicides (39% of all U.S gun deaths),
* 762 unintentional shootings (3% of all U.S gun deaths),
* and 300 from legal intervention and 243 from undetermined intent (2% of all U.S gun deaths combined).


FACT: A gun in the home increases the risk of homicide of a household member by 3 times and the risk of suicide by 5 times compared to homes where no gun is present.

FACT: Contrary to popular belief, young children do possess the physical strength to fire a gun: 25% of 3-to-4-year-olds, 70% of 5-to-6-year-olds, and 90% of 7-to-8-year-olds can fire most handguns.

FACT: Among 26 industrialized nations, 86% of gun deaths among children under age 15 occurred in the United States.

FACT: Taxpayers pay more than 85% of the medical cost for treatment of firearm-related injuries.

FACT: While handguns account for only one-third of all firearms owned in the United States, they account for more than two-thirds of all firearm-related deaths each year. A gun kept in the home is 22 times more likely to be used in a homicide, suicide or unintentional shooting than to be used in self-defense.

FACT: Every two years more Americans die from firearm injuries than the total number of American soldiers killed during the 8-year Vietnam War. In 1999, the total number of people killed by guns in the United States was 28,874,a 6% decrease from 1998 figures.

i dont need a gun. i have a wife who will nag you to death.

I think we should outlaw nature. I think more people die from natural causes that anything else.

Why are we including suicides as a bad thing? These people wanted to end their life and they did so in a way that probably has the highest rate of success.

Tell that to the tens of thousands of people that have tried suicide using a gun and instead of dying they ended up either in a vegative state or paralyzed leaving their family or taxpayers to care for them the rest of their lives. Not to mention it makes a hell of a mess.