Can the adult industry handle so many new sponsor programs?

[Theo]

A lot of new sponsors the last year and a half and the appearance rate keeps increasing. Do you think most of them will be around in a year or two or they'll disappear? Have in mind paysites are not tgps. They have operating cost and if they dont perform well by sending traffic to them in reality you lose money.

[Amp]

variety and competition is always a good thing in any business. It spurs growth, better products, wider field of choices, and keeps costs down.

[Sylver7]

There is plenty of room for honest sponsors. Keeps the cheaters looking over their shoulder.

[EviLGuY]

Sure is room.. but a lot of them fail and fade away without a word.

[DR_PHIL]

comp is great for this industry!

[emmanuelle]

I am still having trouble locating ANY sponsor who carries the niches I want to promote.

[TexasGuy]

As someone said, competition IS good!


The more sponsors the better.

[Gheenz]

Originally posted by Amp
variety and competition is always a good thing in any business. It spurs growth, better products, wider field of choices, and keeps costs down.

Exactly. This is the way it 'outta be

[imageman]

Originally posted by TexasGuy
As someone said, competition IS good!


The more sponsors the better.

Always room for good honest sponsors.


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[Zoe_Zoebaboe]

Originally posted by TexasGuy
As someone said, competition IS good!


The more sponsors the better.

I mean, think about it.


Pepsi-cola and Coca-cola for example.

If there wasnt such compeition between those two they wouldnt bother being the best they can, trying new things, etc.

[TheFrog]

Yep, room for plenty more

[NakedBo]

Originally posted by Sylver7
There is plenty of room for honest sponsors. Keeps the cheaters looking over their shoulder.

That's what I was thinking. Maybe some competition will do some good, and on the end the bad apples fall, and the good ones remain.

[jovigirl]

Originally posted by emmanuelle
I am still having trouble locating ANY sponsor who carries the niches I want to promote.

Which niches?

[bigdog]

i wonder how much profit a lot of these companies are doing, because their sites are all the same niches as the large sponsors
Everyone is coming out with the same dvd content sites are putting up some lame reality sites

[Jakke PNG]

Originally posted by bigdog
because their sites are all the same niches as the large sponsors
Everyone is coming out with the same dvd content sites are putting up some lame reality sites

No.
Some of us are different.

Although, I assume the popular niches (teen etc..) have a LOT more space for new sponsors, not only the small niches. Almost regardless what their content is, DVDs or exclusive. As long as it's presented out nicely and surfer gets what he's told.

[DreamCumTrue]

of course

[polish_aristocrat]

I really don't care, i am promoting 5-7 sponsors, so the remaining 995 don't bother me.

I think now simply everyone wants his own sponsor program and ist is probably easier than ever to start one nowadays, so many webmasters are trying it.

I am not thinking about a paysite at all, at least now.
I think it is too much work and moreover too much paperwork.

[sexpress]

Originally posted by bigdog
i wonder how much profit a lot of these companies are doing, because their sites are all the same niches as the large sponsors
Everyone is coming out with the same dvd content sites are putting up some lame reality sites

yep, we decided not to go that route, we have unique exclusive niche sites

[detoxed]

think about how many affiliate programs were around 2 years ago that arent around now. there will always be room for more because tons go out of business every day

[insanesurfer]

Some will stick around but I think a lot will fade away into the history books

[Just_Dave]

there is always room

[Paul]

Originally posted by DR_PHIL
comp is great for this industry!

The people who really benifit from the competition are the customers. I don't see how more competition is good for the people already in this industry.

variety and competition is always a good thing in any business. It spurs growth, better products, wider field of choices, and keeps costs down.

Variety & competition - There is already a lot of variety and competition in most popular niches, if in a years time there is double the competition how does that benifit the webmasters ?

Is more competition not going to result in a decrease in retention ? Surely the more choices that consumers have the less chance they will staying a member of a paysite. Why stay a member of a particular paysite and rebill for months if there is 10 similar paysites in a particular niche offering exclusive content for the same kind of price ?

better products, wider field of choices, and keeps costs down - Better products are more than likely going to result in costing webmasters more money to produce the content (not good for the webmaster again) If better products became the norm all thats really done is raised the consomers expectation of what he expects from a paysite.

Overall I don't think this is going to benifit the webmasters (us) Seriously though I'd like to hear your thoughts on some of the things I've said above

[Paul]

This thread deserves a bump

[Edguy!]

I don't know, I really don't

[cool1]

Sponsors come and go all the time.
nothing unusual about it.

[Brad Mitchell]

I don't think there is any question about whether or not the industry can support more programs.. it's whether or not the programs can survive the industry. Survival of the fittest, you will see many come and go for certain.

Brad

[Samantha_xox2000]

Originally posted by emmanuelle
I am still having trouble locating ANY sponsor who carries the niches I want to promote.

What niches you are looking for ?

[McKracken]

3 sponsor programs opens, 1 gets busted in shaving, one vanish from the face of the earth, one "forgets" to pay hosting bill.... all in all the same number of programs...... (bump )

[StuartD]

Originally posted by McKracken
3 sponsor programs opens, 1 gets busted in shaving, one vanish from the face of the earth, one "forgets" to pay hosting bill.... all in all the same number of programs...... (bump )

This doesn't explain why the number of sponsors in my database keeps growing on www.sponsorslist.com

[McKracken]

Originally posted by MaskedMan
This doesn't explain why the number of sponsors in my database keeps growing on www.sponsorslist.com

db error

[zzgundamnzz]

There is room...

But I think the newer quality paysites will take the place of older cookie cutter sites.

Then in a few years from now the new trend of websites will take over the previous websites.

[sexsup]

Can the adult industry handle so many new sponsor programs?

Why not?

[Theo]

yes,the question should had been placed differently.......


from http://www.sponsorslist.com/


Sponsors : 829

i'm far from veteran, but i could tell you that not long time ago the paysites available for promotion were extremely few compared to now and the overall sales volume didn't jump 20 times up.

I consider the average new sponsor as a weak attempt to "leak" sales from other webmasters and is not built in order to maximize the money earned from owner's current traffic. I might be wrong. if you run a new sponsor don't take it personally. It's a general remark.

[Paul]

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
yes,the question should had been placed differently.......


from http://www.sponsorslist.com/


Sponsors : 829

i'm far from veteran, but i could tell you that not long time ago the paysites available for promotion were extremely few compared to now and the overall sales volume didn't jump 20 times up.

I consider the average new sponsor as a weak attempt to "leak" sales from other webmasters and is not built in order to maximize the money earned from owner's current traffic. I might be wrong. if you run a new sponsor don't take it personally. It's a general remark.

Same amount of pie but more people taking a slice

I think a lot of affiliates started to realize that they could make a LOT more money by starting their own paysites rather that promoting other webmasters programs.

[washiez]

Most of these new sponsor programs are just lame attempts at a recurring program.. which has been happening for YEARS. They do not hurt anybody.

[misty_dayz]

Lots of competition ensures that only the best survive...and it keeps the best ones always on their toes to keep their place...no one gets lax. That is a good thing.

I do think there will be a constant turn-over as new companies come and go and the industry as a whole changes.

[Rich]

Originally posted by Zoe_Zoebaboe
I mean, think about it.


Pepsi-cola and Coca-cola for example.

If there wasnt such compeition between those two they wouldnt bother being the best they can, trying new things, etc.

If coke and pepsi had any real competition, they would be forced to be way cheeper and actually develop products that aren't horrible for kids. That's the worst possible industry to use as an example of good competition. It's an advertising war between two giants.

[StuartD]

Originally posted by Rich
If coke and pepsi had any real competition, they would be forced to be way cheeper and actually develop products that aren't horrible for kids. That's the worst possible industry to use as an example of good competition. It's an advertising war between two giants.

Kind of like Duracell and Energizer... if they had any real competition, they'd have made batteries that last for years by now.

[Doctor Dre]

Good fucking thread once again soul

My bet is that a lot of them will just diseapear and the strongest / oldest ones will keep rocking if they update their shit (example of a bad sponsor : maxcash)

[polish_aristocrat]

bumppppp

[Kevsh]

Originally Posted by Amp

variety and competition is always a good thing in any business. It spurs growth, better products, wider field of choices, and keeps costs down.

Exactly, and to answer the original question: Like in any business, a lot of startups will fail in their first year. If they make it through that with their shirts on their back, there's hope.