Can the adult industry handle so many new sponsor programs? - GoFuckYourself.com

Theo · 05-18-2004, 12:44 PM

A lot of new sponsors the last year and a half and the appearance rate keeps increasing. Do you think most of them will be around in a year or two or they'll disappear? Have in mind paysites are not tgps. They have operating cost and if they dont perform well by sending traffic to them in reality you lose money.

Amp · 05-18-2004, 12:48 PM

variety and competition is always a good thing in any business. It spurs growth, better products, wider field of choices, and keeps costs down.

Sylver7 · 05-18-2004, 12:49 PM

There is plenty of room for honest sponsors. Keeps the cheaters looking over their shoulder.

EviLGuY · 05-18-2004, 12:53 PM

Sure is room.. but a lot of them fail and fade away without a word.

DR_PHIL · 05-18-2004, 12:54 PM

comp is great for this industry!

emmanuelle · 05-18-2004, 01:01 PM

I am still having trouble locating ANY sponsor who carries the niches I want to promote.

TexasGuy · 05-18-2004, 02:09 PM

As someone said, competition IS good!

The more sponsors the better.

Gheenz · 05-18-2004, 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by Amp
variety and competition is always a good thing in any business. It spurs growth, better products, wider field of choices, and keeps costs down.

Exactly. This is the way it 'outta be

imageman · 05-18-2004, 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by TexasGuy
As someone said, competition IS good!

The more sponsors the better.

Always room for good honest sponsors.

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Zoe_Zoebaboe · 05-18-2004, 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by TexasGuy
As someone said, competition IS good!

The more sponsors the better.

I mean, think about it.

Pepsi-cola and Coca-cola for example.

If there wasnt such compeition between those two they wouldnt bother being the best they can, trying new things, etc.

TheFrog · 05-18-2004, 02:14 PM

Yep, room for plenty more

NakedBo · 05-18-2004, 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by Sylver7
There is plenty of room for honest sponsors. Keeps the cheaters looking over their shoulder.

That's what I was thinking. Maybe some competition will do some good, and on the end the bad apples fall, and the good ones remain.

jovigirl · 05-18-2004, 02:21 PM

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Originally posted by emmanuelle
I am still having trouble locating ANY sponsor who carries the niches I want to promote.

Which niches?

bigdog · 05-18-2004, 02:21 PM

i wonder how much profit a lot of these companies are doing, because their sites are all the same niches as the large sponsors
Everyone is coming out with the same dvd content sites are putting up some lame reality sites

Jakke PNG · 05-18-2004, 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by bigdog
because their sites are all the same niches as the large sponsors
Everyone is coming out with the same dvd content sites are putting up some lame reality sites

No.

Some of us are different.

Although, I assume the popular niches (teen etc..) have a LOT more space for new sponsors, not only the small niches. Almost regardless what their content is, DVDs or exclusive. As long as it's presented out nicely and surfer gets what he's told.

DreamCumTrue · 05-18-2004, 02:35 PM

of course

polish_aristocrat · 05-18-2004, 03:02 PM

I really don't care, i am promoting 5-7 sponsors, so the remaining 995 don't bother me.

I think now simply everyone wants his own sponsor program and ist is probably easier than ever to start one nowadays, so many webmasters are trying it.

I am not thinking about a paysite at all, at least now.
I think it is too much work and moreover too much paperwork.

sexpress · 05-18-2004, 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by bigdog
i wonder how much profit a lot of these companies are doing, because their sites are all the same niches as the large sponsors
Everyone is coming out with the same dvd content sites are putting up some lame reality sites

yep, we decided not to go that route, we have unique exclusive niche sites

detoxed · 05-18-2004, 03:06 PM

think about how many affiliate programs were around 2 years ago that arent around now. there will always be room for more because tons go out of business every day

insanesurfer · 05-18-2004, 03:08 PM

Some will stick around but I think a lot will fade away into the history books

Just_Dave · 05-18-2004, 04:38 PM

there is always room

Paul · 05-20-2004, 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by DR_PHIL
comp is great for this industry!

The people who really benifit from the competition are the customers. I don't see how more competition is good for the people already in this industry.

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variety and competition is always a good thing in any business. It spurs growth, better products, wider field of choices, and keeps costs down.

Variety & competition - There is already a lot of variety and competition in most popular niches, if in a years time there is double the competition how does that benifit the webmasters ?

Is more competition not going to result in a decrease in retention ? Surely the more choices that consumers have the less chance they will staying a member of a paysite. Why stay a member of a particular paysite and rebill for months if there is 10 similar paysites in a particular niche offering exclusive content for the same kind of price ?

better products, wider field of choices, and keeps costs down - Better products are more than likely going to result in costing webmasters more money to produce the content (not good for the webmaster again) If better products became the norm all thats really done is raised the consomers expectation of what he expects from a paysite.

Overall I don't think this is going to benifit the webmasters (us) Seriously though I'd like to hear your thoughts on some of the things I've said above

Paul · 06-01-2004, 11:34 AM

This thread deserves a bump

Edguy! · 06-01-2004, 11:36 AM

I don't know, I really don't

cool1 · 06-01-2004, 11:39 AM

Sponsors come and go all the time.
nothing unusual about it.

Brad Mitchell · 06-01-2004, 11:40 AM

I don't think there is any question about whether or not the industry can support more programs.. it's whether or not the programs can survive the industry. Survival of the fittest, you will see many come and go for certain.

Brad

Samantha_xox2000 · 06-01-2004, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by emmanuelle
I am still having trouble locating ANY sponsor who carries the niches I want to promote.

What niches you are looking for ?

McKracken · 06-01-2004, 12:40 PM

3 sponsor programs opens, 1 gets busted in shaving, one vanish from the face of the earth, one "forgets" to pay hosting bill.... all in all the same number of programs...... (bump

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StuartD · 06-01-2004, 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by McKracken
3 sponsor programs opens, 1 gets busted in shaving, one vanish from the face of the earth, one "forgets" to pay hosting bill.... all in all the same number of programs...... (bump )

This doesn't explain why the number of sponsors in my database keeps growing on www.sponsorslist.com

McKracken · 06-01-2004, 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan
This doesn't explain why the number of sponsors in my database keeps growing on www.sponsorslist.com

db error

zzgundamnzz · 06-01-2004, 01:04 PM

There is room...

But I think the newer quality paysites will take the place of older cookie cutter sites.

Then in a few years from now the new trend of websites will take over the previous websites.

sexsup · 06-01-2004, 01:05 PM

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Can the adult industry handle so many new sponsor programs?

Why not?

Theo · 06-01-2004, 01:17 PM

yes,the question should had been placed differently.......

from http://www.sponsorslist.com/

Sponsors : 829

i'm far from veteran, but i could tell you that not long time ago the paysites available for promotion were extremely few compared to now and the overall sales volume didn't jump 20 times up.

I consider the average new sponsor as a weak attempt to "leak" sales from other webmasters and is not built in order to maximize the money earned from owner's current traffic. I might be wrong. if you run a new sponsor don't take it personally. It's a general remark.

Paul · 06-03-2004, 05:15 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
yes,the question should had been placed differently.......

from http://www.sponsorslist.com/

Sponsors : 829

i'm far from veteran, but i could tell you that not long time ago the paysites available for promotion were extremely few compared to now and the overall sales volume didn't jump 20 times up.

I consider the average new sponsor as a weak attempt to "leak" sales from other webmasters and is not built in order to maximize the money earned from owner's current traffic. I might be wrong. if you run a new sponsor don't take it personally. It's a general remark.

Same amount of pie but more people taking a slice

I think a lot of affiliates started to realize that they could make a LOT more money by starting their own paysites rather that promoting other webmasters programs.

washiez · 06-03-2004, 05:21 AM

Most of these new sponsor programs are just lame attempts at a recurring program.. which has been happening for YEARS. They do not hurt anybody.

misty_dayz · 06-03-2004, 05:25 AM

Lots of competition ensures that only the best survive...and it keeps the best ones always on their toes to keep their place...no one gets lax. That is a good thing.

I do think there will be a constant turn-over as new companies come and go and the industry as a whole changes.

Rich · 07-27-2004, 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by Zoe_Zoebaboe
I mean, think about it.

Pepsi-cola and Coca-cola for example.

If there wasnt such compeition between those two they wouldnt bother being the best they can, trying new things, etc.

If coke and pepsi had any real competition, they would be forced to be way cheeper and actually develop products that aren't horrible for kids. That's the worst possible industry to use as an example of good competition. It's an advertising war between two giants.

StuartD · 08-26-2004, 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by Rich
If coke and pepsi had any real competition, they would be forced to be way cheeper and actually develop products that aren't horrible for kids. That's the worst possible industry to use as an example of good competition. It's an advertising war between two giants.

Kind of like Duracell and Energizer... if they had any real competition, they'd have made batteries that last for years by now.

Doctor Dre · 08-26-2004, 08:42 PM

Good fucking thread once again soul

My bet is that a lot of them will just diseapear and the strongest / oldest ones will keep rocking if they update their shit (example of a bad sponsor : maxcash)

polish_aristocrat · 03-19-2005, 07:35 AM

bumppppp

Kevsh · 03-19-2005, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Amp

variety and competition is always a good thing in any business. It spurs growth, better products, wider field of choices, and keeps costs down.

Exactly, and to answer the original question: Like in any business, a lot of startups will fail in their first year. If they make it through that with their shirts on their back, there's hope.

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05-18-2004, 12:44 PM	#1
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	Can the adult industry handle so many new sponsor programs? A lot of new sponsors the last year and a half and the appearance rate keeps increasing. Do you think most of them will be around in a year or two or they'll disappear? Have in mind paysites are not tgps. They have operating cost and if they dont perform well by sending traffic to them in reality you lose money.

05-18-2004, 03:02 PM	#17
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	I really don't care, i am promoting 5-7 sponsors, so the remaining 995 don't bother me. I think now simply everyone wants his own sponsor program and ist is probably easier than ever to start one nowadays, so many webmasters are trying it. I am not thinking about a paysite at all, at least now. I think it is too much work and moreover too much paperwork. __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

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05-18-2004, 12:48 PM	#2
Amp So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Maui Posts: 1,661	variety and competition is always a good thing in any business. It spurs growth, better products, wider field of choices, and keeps costs down.

05-18-2004, 12:49 PM	#3
Sylver7 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: [206] Posts: 489	There is plenty of room for honest sponsors. Keeps the cheaters looking over their shoulder.

05-18-2004, 12:53 PM	#4
EviLGuY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: malta Posts: 12,745	Sure is room.. but a lot of them fail and fade away without a word.

05-18-2004, 12:54 PM	#5
DR_PHIL Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Never visits the same thread twice Posts: 4,099	comp is great for this industry!

05-18-2004, 01:01 PM	#6
emmanuelle Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Oh Canada! Posts: 3,662	I am still having trouble locating ANY sponsor who carries the niches I want to promote.

05-18-2004, 02:09 PM	#7
TexasGuy Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: On the net Posts: 432	As someone said, competition IS good! The more sponsors the better.

05-18-2004, 02:14 PM	#11
TheFrog Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,095	Yep, room for plenty more

05-18-2004, 02:21 PM	#14
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	i wonder how much profit a lot of these companies are doing, because their sites are all the same niches as the large sponsors Everyone is coming out with the same dvd content sites are putting up some lame reality sites

05-18-2004, 02:35 PM	#16
DreamCumTrue Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,985	of course

05-18-2004, 03:06 PM	#19
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	think about how many affiliate programs were around 2 years ago that arent around now. there will always be room for more because tons go out of business every day

05-18-2004, 04:38 PM	#21
Just_Dave Its almost time Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 13,009	there is always room

06-01-2004, 11:34 AM	#23
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cool1 sex is good Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Carman, MB Canada Posts: 24,939	Sponsors come and go all the time. nothing unusual about it. __________________

06-01-2004, 11:40 AM	#26
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	I don't think there is any question about whether or not the industry can support more programs.. it's whether or not the programs can survive the industry. Survival of the fittest, you will see many come and go for certain. Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

06-01-2004, 12:40 PM	#28
McKracken Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Drunkville Posts: 703	3 sponsor programs opens, 1 gets busted in shaving, one vanish from the face of the earth, one "forgets" to pay hosting bill.... all in all the same number of programs...... (bump )

06-01-2004, 01:04 PM	#31
zzgundamnzz Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,102	There is room... But I think the newer quality paysites will take the place of older cookie cutter sites. Then in a few years from now the new trend of websites will take over the previous websites. __________________

06-01-2004, 01:17 PM	#33
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	yes,the question should had been placed differently....... from http://www.sponsorslist.com/ Sponsors : 829 i'm far from veteran, but i could tell you that not long time ago the paysites available for promotion were extremely few compared to now and the overall sales volume didn't jump 20 times up. I consider the average new sponsor as a weak attempt to "leak" sales from other webmasters and is not built in order to maximize the money earned from owner's current traffic. I might be wrong. if you run a new sponsor don't take it personally. It's a general remark.

06-03-2004, 05:21 AM	#35
washiez Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,118	Most of these new sponsor programs are just lame attempts at a recurring program.. which has been happening for YEARS. They do not hurt anybody. __________________ every click counts...

06-03-2004, 05:25 AM	#36
misty_dayz Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The bank with all the cash Posts: 475	Lots of competition ensures that only the best survive...and it keeps the best ones always on their toes to keep their place...no one gets lax. That is a good thing. I do think there will be a constant turn-over as new companies come and go and the industry as a whole changes.

03-19-2005, 07:35 AM	#40
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	bumppppp __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.