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Old 03-18-2005, 12:37 PM   #1
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:stoned Google BUSTED for keyword stuffing and cloaking

haha not sure if anyone made a thread about this , but i think it deserves a thread of its own.

Basically in a nutshell they are making one page for surfers and a different site show up for the spiders. ( the same thing they ban domains for )

http://www.threadwatch.org/node/1774
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Old 03-18-2005, 12:42 PM   #2
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And isn't their corporate motto Don't be evil?

Even if that ever WAS true, it certainly isn't after going public.
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Old 03-18-2005, 12:43 PM   #3
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Old 03-18-2005, 12:46 PM   #4
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Their company, their rules, you dont like it, dont use them ;)

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Old 03-18-2005, 12:51 PM   #5
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Their company, their rules, you dont like it, dont use them ;)

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True , but if mcdonalds was spitting in their burgers , i think its only fair i let people know.
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Old 03-18-2005, 01:03 PM   #6
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That's truly fucked.

Who could possibly police them though?
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Old 03-18-2005, 01:07 PM   #7
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And all they needed to do was plonk their site into the results... they didn't need to do that...
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Old 03-18-2005, 01:09 PM   #8
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True , but if mcdonalds was spitting in their burgers , i think its only fair i let people know.
its illegal to spit in burgers and serve them. if McDonalds was offering free burgers and was in compliance with the law in their means of preparation, handling etc... they are not obligated to inform you of anything. correct?
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Old 03-18-2005, 01:10 PM   #9
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lol, funny
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Old 03-18-2005, 01:14 PM   #10
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Heres google denying it. Sort of.

They say its a technical error , that the cloaked pages were only there for the internal search.

If you have ever been banned by google , send them a mail using their own words as an excuse and see what they do.

"We inadvertently showed additional information on product support pages to both Google's site search crawler and Google's main web crawler. The additional information shown by the product support pages was intended only for the site search crawler, not the main web crawler," the spokesperson said"


http://www.betanews.com/article/Goog...ims/1110379132
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Old 03-18-2005, 01:15 PM   #11
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Oh the irony
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Old 03-18-2005, 01:21 PM   #12
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its illegal to spit in burgers and serve them. if McDonalds was offering free burgers and was in compliance with the law in their means of preparation, handling etc... they are not obligated to inform you of anything. correct?
I don't think of it as a legality issue; it has more to do with integrity. Google has successfully hoodwinked most surfers with their manufactured image-- a superficial "concern" for a comfortable surfer experience.
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Old 03-18-2005, 01:28 PM   #13
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its illegal to spit in burgers and serve them. if McDonalds was offering free burgers and was in compliance with the law in their means of preparation, handling etc... they are not obligated to inform you of anything. correct?

i see you missed the point entirely.. I'll make it harder to throw a spin on.

Do as i say not as i do.
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Old 03-18-2005, 01:31 PM   #14
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I want to see their PR10 domain go to 0. Ban the whole Google.com domain.
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Old 03-18-2005, 01:56 PM   #15
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Heres google denying it. Sort of.

They say its a technical error , that the cloaked pages were only there for the internal search.

If you have ever been banned by google , send them a mail using their own words as an excuse and see what they do.

"We inadvertently showed additional information on product support pages to both Google's site search crawler and Google's main web crawler. The additional information shown by the product support pages was intended only for the site search crawler, not the main web crawler," the spokesperson said"


http://www.betanews.com/article/Goog...ims/1110379132
That would be comedy.

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Old 03-18-2005, 02:07 PM   #16
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I want to see their PR10 domain go to 0. Ban the whole Google.com domain.
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I highly doubt that, unless they'd do it for a joke. :P All other search engines could penalize them though.. heh.

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Old 03-18-2005, 02:09 PM   #17
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Well.. In the end they do more good than bad and that's whats counting.
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Old 03-18-2005, 02:10 PM   #18
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Old 03-18-2005, 02:17 PM   #19
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Yeah I saw that. I reported the fuckers to themselves for abusing their own algorithm. Can this self abuse be technically classed as masturbation?

I just went to Google.com and it still has a PR10 so my ban request didn't work.

edit lol WG
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Old 03-18-2005, 02:27 PM   #20
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Is their search engine they can do what they want.
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Old 03-18-2005, 02:33 PM   #21
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Is their search engine they can do what they want.

Thats true , its more they way they did it.

When people use the search engine and their own sites rank high because they cheated the algorithm its deceptive.

As someone pointed out they dont even need to do that , they could easily add a

" THESE GOOGLE SERVICES MATCH YOUR SEARCH RESULTS "

at the top of the page

But then you would KNOW they might not be the best. ( kind of ruins the whole point of a search engine )
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Old 03-18-2005, 02:36 PM   #22
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