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AkiraSS · 03-18-2005, 08:41 AM

We tried cams.com (legendarylars/streamray) for over a week
Totals: 608 42 0 $0.99

42 free signups, $1?
hmmm, doesn't look too bright for an overtaunted program

XPorn · 03-18-2005, 08:52 AM

400 free sign ups $27

I agree....interesting idea/program.....but guess I'm with you.....how long do ya wait.....

AkiraSS · 03-18-2005, 08:54 AM

Can Lars comment on this?

emmanuelle · 03-18-2005, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AkiraSS

hmmm, doesn't look too bright for an overtaunted program

What does 'overtaunted' mean?

Barefootsies · 03-18-2005, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emmanuelle

What does 'overtaunted' mean?

I think he's referring to an 'over hyped' program, as Lars is all over the place, including in Comus thumbs as the greatest thing since slided bread with kick yourself in the nut conversions to make your bank account phat.

teksonline · 03-18-2005, 09:02 AM

Did not do well either with program :/

AkiraSS · 03-18-2005, 09:38 AM

What do you guys suggest as an alternative?
The traffic comes from a solid "live" site

teksonline · 03-18-2005, 09:56 AM

just wait, in a few days, youll never have to ask that question again, got something brewing

Project-Shadow · 03-18-2005, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AkiraSS

What do you guys suggest as an alternative?
The traffic comes from a solid "live" site

Spam.. http://www.adultactioncash.com/?aid=11251

dirtysouth · 03-18-2005, 10:08 AM

Went through the same thing. I switched to ND Cam Crush and have made MAJOR bank off the same traffic.

DateDoc · 03-18-2005, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtysouth

Went through the same thing. I switched to ND Cam Crush and have made MAJOR bank off the same traffic.

link? www.camcrush.com

dirtysouth · 03-18-2005, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BusterPorn

link? www.camcrush.com

Nasty Dollars

9 sales so far today. Average is 15 or so daily. 50/50 $plit.

camcutie · 03-18-2005, 10:27 AM

Try these guys......we make over $2000 per month on the side with it.

http://apps.ClickCash.com/cgi/cc_ref...?acct=kktab850

XOXOXO
*Krystal*

KRL · 03-18-2005, 10:29 AM

Its very rare to see free cams convert rapidly into a paid membership. Usually takes weeks if not months of a buildup until they fall for a particular girl and get hooked.

Where you make your money is with the handful of members that get really hooked and we'll be on there all the time with the girl that snags them.

Xenophage · 03-18-2005, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AkiraSS

We tried cams.com (legendarylars/streamray) for over a week
Totals: 608 42 0 $0.99

42 free signups, $1?
hmmm, doesn't look too bright for an overtaunted program

Pretty difficult to judge any program on 600 traffic !

Cams are a long term product, it takes time for surfers to convert, but when they do you can make mad cash. It also ahs a lot to do with Whales, since cam buyers can spend 10-20,000 in one month. If you get that guy he is worth 2-4,000 profit a month. But it takes time to find the good ones. If you want instant satisfaction i suggest you try the Pay up front program. Cuzz on that one guy you got there you would have been paid $50 on your 1 signup. $50 for 600 traffic seems pretty decent to me. And that also equates to more than $1 per free signup, 42 free signups $50 not too shabby. Also just a refresher a free signup on cams.com just means they selected a login and password, not that they have a credit card or that they provided any information worthwhile.. Free signups are to be used to kind of judge the potentcy of traffic. if you are running from 5-10% free signups then your traffic is good the closer to 10% the better. If you have free signups in that range over time you should do quite well with us.

David! · 03-18-2005, 10:41 AM

It took me quite a while to see the money roll in with Lars.
However, once the money started rolling, it was continuous.
Like KRL said, it takes some time for free sign ups to convert to paid members.
If you are patient, it will pay off.
The problem with many webmasters is that they switch too often from one program to another and therefore never sees the benefits of any program.
This is not a magic game where you put a link and the $$$ start raining. It takes time and persistence just like with any endeavors.

dirtysouth · 03-18-2005, 10:43 AM

I pushed cams for over a year and a 1/2. Made $180. Just my experience.

ytcracker · 03-18-2005, 10:44 AM

i think its more of a long term thing once people are enticed

Zoe_Zoebaboe · 03-18-2005, 10:54 AM

With something personality-based like cams, it takes a while to see income flowing in.
Give it a while, or figure out what traffic you're sending and see if that would be best for cams.

If it doesnt work, hit me up ;)

Dazza · 03-18-2005, 11:07 AM

how about these stats... pure SE traffic. half of the clicks counted from source to their stats

Program Referrals Free Sign Ups Paid Sign Ups (PPS) Sales Chargebacks/Credits
$25 Pay Per Signup 1312 194 1 $60.00 $0.00
Totals: 1312 194 1 $60.00 $0.00

try and figure that one out. i cant.

Xenophage · 03-18-2005, 11:13 AM

Legendary Lars % or PPS whats best ?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I get this question all the time hopefully this will help clear the air a bit. I am reposting it from another thread but hopefully it is informative.

first off % is better than PPS on our system. I have one webmaster who sends about 2000 traffic a day to 2 accounts. on PPS and one % and has been doing this for over a year. He makes around $100 a day on each account. The difference is if he turned off both accounts today the % account would pay out for more than a year to come slowly declining over time.

As for how many free signups convert to customers, that really varies on were the traffic comes from and how it is sent to us. I have seen only one trend, if your free signups to traffic sent is over 5% then you should do well with us and te closer you are to 10% conversion from traffic to free signup the more money you will make.

And on to the real hat trick
In live cams there are customers and then there are REAL customers (WHALES) kinda like a casino. 1 (whale) can equal 100 customers. it usuallly takes a good ammount of traffic to find that one whale, a whale can spend as much as $20,000 in a month. as you can see at 20% this is $4000 your cut. Obviously that is the extreme but havina guy who spends 5000 is not unusual.

Now sometimes someone sends us some traffic and it does not convert in the first couple days, and they pull the plug. Thinking this program sucks or whatever. Mostly they just did not stick around long enough to find the GOLD ! This is different than sending traffic to paysites. These customers come back every day and talk to girls. Eventually they try it out. the free signup you send today can turn into a sale 2 months or a year later. But if you have stopped sending traffic, you likely forget all about that when ya get your check a year later.

On the other hand sometimes we get a customer who sends a little traffic lands a WHALE their first week and think oh my god this porgram is the greatest converting thing on the planet ! It typoically takes a good 6 months or so of steady traffic to reach a peak performance but can take up to a year.

This is a long term partnership, Many companies have been with us for years and we are inside almost every major paysite company there is. There is a reason for that !

Please give us a shot at converting your traffic, but give us a fair shot at it and remember it takes a bit more time with live cams but the payoffs can be wicked for waiting around

Xenophage · 03-18-2005, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazza

how about these stats... pure SE traffic. half of the clicks counted from source to their stats

Program Referrals Free Sign Ups Paid Sign Ups (PPS) Sales Chargebacks/Credits
$25 Pay Per Signup 1312 194 1 $60.00 $0.00
Totals: 1312 194 1 $60.00 $0.00

try and figure that one out. i cant.

SE traffic would do much better going to cams.com rather than the $1 sites.

hit me up on ICQ 2593795, I will prepay you to do it again to cams.com

I KNOW I can make money off of that traffic. The ratio is much better than 10%

Black Dog · 03-18-2005, 11:29 AM

In fairness to Lars and other webcam programs (like WebcamCash), webcams don't convert the same way as regular membership sites. I'm not saying they don't convert as well, but the patterns are different.

In a membership site, the surfer will typically either buy the membership at the end of the tour, or never return. With webcams, however, the surfer may hang out for a few months in the free chatroooms before spending a dime. Then suddenly one day: CH-CHING!!!

Here is my advice: switch to revshare, and wait patiently for that whale to bite. Eventually they always do and when he does you will know why so many webmasters today are choosing webcams.

B

ronaldo · 03-18-2005, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Dog

Here is my advice: switch to revshare, and wait patiently for that whale to bite.

Isn't porn a get rich quick thingy?

Babagirls · 03-18-2005, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

Legendary Lars % or PPS whats best ?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I get this question all the time hopefully this will help clear the air a bit. I am reposting it from another thread but hopefully it is informative.

first off % is better than PPS on our system. I have one webmaster who sends about 2000 traffic a day to 2 accounts. on PPS and one % and has been doing this for over a year. He makes around $100 a day on each account. The difference is if he turned off both accounts today the % account would pay out for more than a year to come slowly declining over time.

As for how many free signups convert to customers, that really varies on were the traffic comes from and how it is sent to us. I have seen only one trend, if your free signups to traffic sent is over 5% then you should do well with us and te closer you are to 10% conversion from traffic to free signup the more money you will make.

And on to the real hat trick
In live cams there are customers and then there are REAL customers (WHALES) kinda like a casino. 1 (whale) can equal 100 customers. it usuallly takes a good ammount of traffic to find that one whale, a whale can spend as much as $20,000 in a month. as you can see at 20% this is $4000 your cut. Obviously that is the extreme but havina guy who spends 5000 is not unusual.

Now sometimes someone sends us some traffic and it does not convert in the first couple days, and they pull the plug. Thinking this program sucks or whatever. Mostly they just did not stick around long enough to find the GOLD ! This is different than sending traffic to paysites. These customers come back every day and talk to girls. Eventually they try it out. the free signup you send today can turn into a sale 2 months or a year later. But if you have stopped sending traffic, you likely forget all about that when ya get your check a year later.

On the other hand sometimes we get a customer who sends a little traffic lands a WHALE their first week and think oh my god this porgram is the greatest converting thing on the planet ! It typoically takes a good 6 months or so of steady traffic to reach a peak performance but can take up to a year.

This is a long term partnership, Many companies have been with us for years and we are inside almost every major paysite company there is. There is a reason for that !

Please give us a shot at converting your traffic, but give us a fair shot at it and remember it takes a bit more time with live cams but the payoffs can be wicked for waiting around

very well said lars!

i just switched from ImLive to your program last week, and im 1:14 with free signups (but i choose the 20% for life program), i used to be a camgirl back in the day so i know the patterns and how the work (about a girl hookin a guy in to spend a large amount of $$ monthly and long term), i used to do that all the time with ease.

Cams are wayyy different than just a PPS site. Its not a "take the cash and run" kind of program. its a "wait it out" program. it'll pay off...remember, patience is vital in the cam biz.

Kevsh · 03-18-2005, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Dog

In fairness to Lars and other webcam programs (like WebcamCash), webcams don't convert the same way as regular membership sites. I'm not saying they don't convert as well, but the patterns are different.

In a membership site, the surfer will typically either buy the membership at the end of the tour, or never return. With webcams, however, the surfer may hang out for a few months in the free chatroooms before spending a dime. Then suddenly one day: CH-CHING!!!

Here is my advice: switch to revshare, and wait patiently for that whale to bite. Eventually they always do and when he does you will know why so many webmasters today are choosing webcams.

B

Well put, and don't forget with sites like Lars often visitors come back after a free sign-up and go 1-on-1 later. Over time, with consistent traffic the revshares will really add up. One customer can be worth literally thousands of dollars to an affiliate which beats the $25 PPS on many pay sites - even with a few months of rebills!

TheSenator · 03-18-2005, 11:54 AM

The secret to his program is the percentage payout. Remember consistency wins out in the end.

Sneezy · 03-18-2005, 12:03 PM

i'm so glad no a lot of international webmasters push the concept I use on www.privatexxx.nl; it keeps the ratio's nicely high, day in day out ;-)

xxxice · 03-18-2005, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PussyMan

It took me quite a while to see the money roll in with Lars.
However, once the money started rolling, it was continuous.
Like KRL said, it takes some time for free sign ups to convert to paid members.
If you are patient, it will pay off.
The problem with many webmasters is that they switch too often from one program to another and therefore never sees the benefits of any program.
This is not a magic game where you put a link and the $$$ start raining. It takes time and persistence just like with any endeavors.

Good post! My 2

why make 20% when you can make 50%?

dj pussy · 03-18-2005, 12:09 PM

there are a lot of programs today but what works for me best is imlive.com

pornguy · 03-18-2005, 12:11 PM

I don't think that webcams convert that well anymore. Surfers are getting savyy and they know that the chicks are professionals that just want their money and that don't feel anything when they put a 20 inch dildo in their pussies. Plus all the shows are the same... It gets boring for the surfer to see every girl do the same thing.

Babagirls · 03-18-2005, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj pussy

there are a lot of programs today but what works for me best is imlive.com

i couldnt convert them for shit lol

Shap · 03-18-2005, 12:14 PM

I haven't read this whole thread. Only a few posts. Here's my

1. You can never judge a program on 600 hits. NEVER EVER. You need to send thousands of hits. And thousands of blind hits isn't enough either. Not referring to Arika but to all the posts recently from people saying sponsors don't convert. Send 1000s of targeted hits then talk

2. We are on the Lars % plan and it works great. The position we are in now is great. The signups are steady and the monthly checks keep growing. Who could ask for anything more?

Lars

dj pussy · 03-18-2005, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy

... It gets boring for the surfer to see every girl do the same thing.

AkiraSS · 03-18-2005, 12:19 PM

A friend that wants to remain annonymous icqed me with this:

"Hey mate.
just saw your tthread about cams- it's something wrong .
I mean, i sent them more than 200 or 300 (don't know exactly) free signups since November and got only 1 signup equal $70 last month.
That's it. either it's all scam or i don't know what to think ...
Seems to me now a days all fellas shave bigtime including fellas from ccbill - they can easily steal your signup as you know ... this biz fucked up toooo much already "

Shap · 03-18-2005, 12:34 PM

This:
"Seems to me now a days all fellas shave bigtime including fellas from ccbill - they can easily steal your signup as you know ... this biz fucked up toooo much already "

It's absolutely wrong and uninformed. We don't shave and I believe alot of companies we are doing big business with don't shave either. Unless you run a paysite and have seen the backend of things I don't think it is wise to jump to these conclusions. Before I started Twistys I was the first to jump out and say this sponsor is shaving today. Guess what? I was wrong. I was DEAD WRONG!

Here is a perfect example. We have an affiliate sending 7 to 9 signups a day. He's been very consistent over the past 10 months. Then on Wednesday he had no signups. 0:5600 after averaging close to 1:560 month after month. Now call me crazy but that looks like shaving if i ever saw it right? That's just the way wednesday was, a shitty fuckin sales day. Guess what happened Thursday? He banged out 15 sales. Same traffic. One day 0 and one day 15. That is how paysites work. When you own one you are absolutely amazed at the trends. Our sales can go up or down 30% on any given day with the same traffic. It is 100% how much our processors are processing for that given day.

All that to say, for people that want to assume every sponsor shaves... you are DEAD WRONG. There are many other factors at play that may be limiting your sales. Usually it has to do with yourself. It is easy to blame others but step back and take a look at yourself and how you are promoting the sponsor and WHAT sponsor you are promoting. 9 times out of ten you'll the choices and decisions you have made may be the problem.

Honez · 03-18-2005, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AkiraSS

What do you guys suggest as an alternative?
The traffic comes from a solid "live" site

You might want to try Cam Fever from Sunny Cams

arin25 · 03-18-2005, 01:30 PM

whats with the 4.99 a min price on every lady? im suprised cams can even compete with ifriends.

Black Dog · 03-18-2005, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanderweb

Good post! My 2

why make 20% when you can make 50%?

Because 20% of anything is more than 50% of nothing.

In other words, customers tend to spend more (A LOT more) with webcam programs than they do with other programs. Webcam customers can spend $1,000's every month while paysite members only spend $30-$50 per month. I'll take 20% of $1,000 over 50% of $50 any day.

If you are talking about a WEBCAM program that pays 50%, I haven't heard of any, but if one does then they definitely aren't spending the money necessary to attract the top webcam talent. As a result your conversions will suffer.

B

GotGauge · 03-18-2005, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AkiraSS

We tried cams.com (legendarylars/streamray) for over a week
Totals: 608 42 0 $0.99

42 free signups, $1?
hmmm, doesn't look too bright for an overtaunted program

Contact me, I found a Cam Company that does well....
22264474
Aron
[email protected]

thaifan99 · 03-18-2005, 02:07 PM

HSN u never had to wait more than a few hours for a sale......

Shame they messed with it.

GotGauge · 03-18-2005, 02:20 PM

THIS CAM COMPANY HAS WORKED FOR ME

detoxed · 03-18-2005, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GotGauge

THIS CAM COMPANY HAS WORKED FOR ME

Why is there an extra column in one pic? What does it stand for?

GotGauge · 03-18-2005, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detoxed

Why is there an extra column in one pic? What does it stand for?

I see 6 Main Columns???
On the year stats I just cut off the Details one...
So Lok at the BIG Pic and it tell you all of them....

03-18-2005, 08:41 AM	#1
AkiraSS Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ICQ: 17630227 Posts: 2,988	Cams.com - how long till we see some money? We tried cams.com (legendarylars/streamray) for over a week Totals: 608 42 0 $0.99 42 free signups, $1? hmmm, doesn't look too bright for an overtaunted program

03-18-2005, 08:52 AM	#2
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03-18-2005, 10:08 AM	#10
dirtysouth Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Mobtown Posts: 2,613	Went through the same thing. I switched to ND Cam Crush and have made MAJOR bank off the same traffic. __________________ no sig

03-18-2005, 10:27 AM	#13
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03-18-2005, 10:29 AM	#14
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Its very rare to see free cams convert rapidly into a paid membership. Usually takes weeks if not months of a buildup until they fall for a particular girl and get hooked. Where you make your money is with the handful of members that get really hooked and we'll be on there all the time with the girl that snags them. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

03-18-2005, 08:54 AM	#3
AkiraSS Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ICQ: 17630227 Posts: 2,988	Can Lars comment on this?

03-18-2005, 09:02 AM	#6
teksonline So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At My Desk Posts: 2,904	Did not do well either with program :/

03-18-2005, 09:38 AM	#7
AkiraSS Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ICQ: 17630227 Posts: 2,988	What do you guys suggest as an alternative? The traffic comes from a solid "live" site

03-18-2005, 09:56 AM	#8
teksonline So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At My Desk Posts: 2,904	just wait, in a few days, youll never have to ask that question again, got something brewing

03-18-2005, 10:41 AM	#16
David! By the wrath of Agamemnon Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Miami Posts: 6,501	It took me quite a while to see the money roll in with Lars. However, once the money started rolling, it was continuous. Like KRL said, it takes some time for free sign ups to convert to paid members. If you are patient, it will pay off. The problem with many webmasters is that they switch too often from one program to another and therefore never sees the benefits of any program. This is not a magic game where you put a link and the $$$ start raining. It takes time and persistence just like with any endeavors. __________________ .

03-18-2005, 10:43 AM	#17
dirtysouth Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Mobtown Posts: 2,613	I pushed cams for over a year and a 1/2. Made $180. Just my experience. __________________ no sig

03-18-2005, 10:44 AM	#18
ytcracker stc is the greatest Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: rip sean murray Posts: 12,403	i think its more of a long term thing once people are enticed __________________ www.ytcracker.com \| www.digitalgangster.com i love you

03-18-2005, 10:54 AM	#19
Zoe_Zoebaboe Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sin City Posts: 4,463	With something personality-based like cams, it takes a while to see income flowing in. Give it a while, or figure out what traffic you're sending and see if that would be best for cams. If it doesnt work, hit me up ;) __________________ http://www.myspace.com/jennabea ICQ: 166862923 Email: [email protected]

03-18-2005, 11:07 AM	#20
Dazza Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,598	how about these stats... pure SE traffic. half of the clicks counted from source to their stats Program Referrals Free Sign Ups Paid Sign Ups (PPS) Sales Chargebacks/Credits $25 Pay Per Signup 1312 194 1 $60.00 $0.00 Totals: 1312 194 1 $60.00 $0.00 try and figure that one out. i cant.

03-18-2005, 11:13 AM	#21
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	Legendary Lars % or PPS whats best ? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I get this question all the time hopefully this will help clear the air a bit. I am reposting it from another thread but hopefully it is informative. first off % is better than PPS on our system. I have one webmaster who sends about 2000 traffic a day to 2 accounts. on PPS and one % and has been doing this for over a year. He makes around $100 a day on each account. The difference is if he turned off both accounts today the % account would pay out for more than a year to come slowly declining over time. As for how many free signups convert to customers, that really varies on were the traffic comes from and how it is sent to us. I have seen only one trend, if your free signups to traffic sent is over 5% then you should do well with us and te closer you are to 10% conversion from traffic to free signup the more money you will make. And on to the real hat trick In live cams there are customers and then there are REAL customers (WHALES) kinda like a casino. 1 (whale) can equal 100 customers. it usuallly takes a good ammount of traffic to find that one whale, a whale can spend as much as $20,000 in a month. as you can see at 20% this is $4000 your cut. Obviously that is the extreme but havina guy who spends 5000 is not unusual. Now sometimes someone sends us some traffic and it does not convert in the first couple days, and they pull the plug. Thinking this program sucks or whatever. Mostly they just did not stick around long enough to find the GOLD ! This is different than sending traffic to paysites. These customers come back every day and talk to girls. Eventually they try it out. the free signup you send today can turn into a sale 2 months or a year later. But if you have stopped sending traffic, you likely forget all about that when ya get your check a year later. On the other hand sometimes we get a customer who sends a little traffic lands a WHALE their first week and think oh my god this porgram is the greatest converting thing on the planet ! It typoically takes a good 6 months or so of steady traffic to reach a peak performance but can take up to a year. This is a long term partnership, Many companies have been with us for years and we are inside almost every major paysite company there is. There is a reason for that ! Please give us a shot at converting your traffic, but give us a fair shot at it and remember it takes a bit more time with live cams but the payoffs can be wicked for waiting around

03-18-2005, 11:29 AM	#23
Black Dog Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Toronto, Earth Posts: 1,108	In fairness to Lars and other webcam programs (like WebcamCash), webcams don't convert the same way as regular membership sites. I'm not saying they don't convert as well, but the patterns are different. In a membership site, the surfer will typically either buy the membership at the end of the tour, or never return. With webcams, however, the surfer may hang out for a few months in the free chatroooms before spending a dime. Then suddenly one day: CH-CHING!!! Here is my advice: switch to revshare, and wait patiently for that whale to bite. Eventually they always do and when he does you will know why so many webmasters today are choosing webcams. B __________________ Looking for a great program that converts ANY traffic? Me too! :-P

03-18-2005, 11:54 AM	#27
TheSenator Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 13,336	The secret to his program is the percentage payout. Remember consistency wins out in the end. __________________ ISeekGirls.com since 2005

03-18-2005, 12:03 PM	#28
Sneezy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 450	i'm so glad no a lot of international webmasters push the concept I use on www.privatexxx.nl; it keeps the ratio's nicely high, day in day out ;-) __________________ no sig 4u

03-18-2005, 12:09 PM	#30
dj pussy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: google Posts: 1,440	there are a lot of programs today but what works for me best is imlive.com

03-18-2005, 12:11 PM	#31
pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	I don't think that webcams convert that well anymore. Surfers are getting savyy and they know that the chicks are professionals that just want their money and that don't feel anything when they put a 20 inch dildo in their pussies. Plus all the shows are the same... It gets boring for the surfer to see every girl do the same thing. __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

03-18-2005, 12:14 PM	#33
Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	I haven't read this whole thread. Only a few posts. Here's my 1. You can never judge a program on 600 hits. NEVER EVER. You need to send thousands of hits. And thousands of blind hits isn't enough either. Not referring to Arika but to all the posts recently from people saying sponsors don't convert. Send 1000s of targeted hits then talk 2. We are on the Lars % plan and it works great. The position we are in now is great. The signups are steady and the monthly checks keep growing. Who could ask for anything more? Lars

03-18-2005, 12:19 PM	#35
AkiraSS Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ICQ: 17630227 Posts: 2,988	A friend that wants to remain annonymous icqed me with this: "Hey mate. just saw your tthread about cams- it's something wrong . I mean, i sent them more than 200 or 300 (don't know exactly) free signups since November and got only 1 signup equal $70 last month. That's it. either it's all scam or i don't know what to think ... Seems to me now a days all fellas shave bigtime including fellas from ccbill - they can easily steal your signup as you know ... this biz fucked up toooo much already "

03-18-2005, 12:34 PM	#36
Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	This: "Seems to me now a days all fellas shave bigtime including fellas from ccbill - they can easily steal your signup as you know ... this biz fucked up toooo much already " It's absolutely wrong and uninformed. We don't shave and I believe alot of companies we are doing big business with don't shave either. Unless you run a paysite and have seen the backend of things I don't think it is wise to jump to these conclusions. Before I started Twistys I was the first to jump out and say this sponsor is shaving today. Guess what? I was wrong. I was DEAD WRONG! Here is a perfect example. We have an affiliate sending 7 to 9 signups a day. He's been very consistent over the past 10 months. Then on Wednesday he had no signups. 0:5600 after averaging close to 1:560 month after month. Now call me crazy but that looks like shaving if i ever saw it right? That's just the way wednesday was, a shitty fuckin sales day. Guess what happened Thursday? He banged out 15 sales. Same traffic. One day 0 and one day 15. That is how paysites work. When you own one you are absolutely amazed at the trends. Our sales can go up or down 30% on any given day with the same traffic. It is 100% how much our processors are processing for that given day. All that to say, for people that want to assume every sponsor shaves... you are DEAD WRONG. There are many other factors at play that may be limiting your sales. Usually it has to do with yourself. It is easy to blame others but step back and take a look at yourself and how you are promoting the sponsor and WHAT sponsor you are promoting. 9 times out of ten you'll the choices and decisions you have made may be the problem.

03-18-2005, 01:30 PM	#38
arin25 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 56	whats with the 4.99 a min price on every lady? im suprised cams can even compete with ifriends.

03-18-2005, 02:07 PM	#41
thaifan99 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: London UK Posts: 3,029	HSN u never had to wait more than a few hours for a sale...... Shame they messed with it. __________________ ARE YOU A FAMILY MEMBER? CLICK HERE TO FIND OUT!

03-18-2005, 02:20 PM	#42
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