How much validaty is there in Visa's threat to cut recurring memberships? - GoFuckYourself.com

martyVP · 03-17-2005, 09:41 PM

Not that there won't be solutions.

I am very curious since I know I am prepared with Pay-Per=Minute and Pay-Per-View technology.

Are you?

www.Prodinix.com is the cure.

Alex · 03-17-2005, 09:47 PM

Ill have some more please

Illicit · 03-17-2005, 09:48 PM

The Sky is Falling ! The Sky is Falling !

flashfire · 03-17-2005, 09:59 PM

I cant see it happening...rebills are making them bank too

hydro · 03-17-2005, 10:00 PM

Doubt it, the adult industry aren't the only people who use rebills.

Sosa · 03-17-2005, 10:01 PM

your all going to die that is what is going to happen

Veterans Day · 03-17-2005, 10:01 PM

pretty cheesy spam, AOL rebills still right? When they die the adult side dies.

martyVP · 03-17-2005, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Veterans Day

pretty cheesy spam, AOL rebills still right? When they die the adult side dies.

i would have to think that AOL recurring and adult membership recurrings are a little different from one another,no?

Tat2Jr · 03-17-2005, 10:04 PM

Whew! I think someone left the spam out again. It smells rancid in here.

V_RocKs · 03-17-2005, 10:07 PM

Smells like bad cheese.

martyVP · 03-17-2005, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tat2Jr

Whew! I think someone left the spam out again. It smells rancid in here.

Call it what you want to call it, this is a simple business thread that got three interested people contacting me already, how is it that you get your business??

Oh i see, you don't believe in marketing huh?

SPAM is good.

Snake Doctor · 03-17-2005, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by martyVP

i would have to think that AOL recurring and adult membership recurrings are a little different from one another,no?

Only in the eyes of Visa, not in the eyes of the law.

This is a pretty creative way to spam your products....however,

1)I wasn't aware that Visa made any such threat.

2) If they tried to pull the plug on recurring for us but left it in tact for any other merchant(s) we would have serious grounds to file suit, there would be an injunction and business would continue as usual until the lawsuit went through the court system (2 years at least)

abyss_al · 03-17-2005, 10:09 PM

big changes coming soon..... in May, to be exact... alot of people will get hurt from it

get ready... do some research... be prepared

simple simon · 03-17-2005, 10:10 PM

fuck I hope visa doesnt leave me hoding the bag on my paysites like Adultcheck did with my rebills, that would be a bitch for sure

Snake Doctor · 03-17-2005, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by martyVP

Call it what you want to call it, this is a simple business thread that got three interested people contacting me already, how is it that you get your business??

Oh i see, you don't believe in marketing huh?

SPAM is good.

You call this thread marketing? I call it fearmongering.

The little respect I gained for you in your previous threads about buying out programs etc is gone now.

Zprogramz · 03-17-2005, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by martyVP

Not that there won't be solutions.

I am very curious since I know I am prepared with Pay-Per=Minute and Pay-Per-View technology.

Are you?

www.Prodinix.com is the cure.

And where did you hear this threat this time... or are you just promoting your own product?

Z

martyVP · 03-17-2005, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

You call this thread marketing? I call it fearmongering.

The little respect I gained for you in your previous threads about buying out programs etc is gone now.

You don't need to respect me, you WILL respect my product, that i will gaurantee you.

Barefootsies · 03-17-2005, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by abyss_al

big changes coming soon..... in May, to be exact... alot of people will get hurt from it

get ready... do some research... be prepared

Actually I've been hearing this buzz since last year w/ little real facts. Not to say that there isn't some truth to it, but one of these years, some webmaster, or adult media company will start a bank, or someway to do business, and BAM,... another solution.

Let's face it, no matter what people do, the adult industry always has, and always will find a work around as long as their are horny lonely folk.

Snake Doctor · 03-17-2005, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by martyVP

You don't need to respect me, you WILL respect my product, that i will gaurantee you.

Not at all...since its your product I wouldn't use it if you paid me to.

If your product was the last way to conduct business on the web I'd find a new business.

Now, what's your source for Visa's so called threat? If you don't have a valid one then shut the fuck up troll.

I'd lay 100 to 1 that you just made it up so you could scare people into trying your product.

martyVP · 03-17-2005, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by simple simon

fuck I hope visa doesnt leave me hoding the bag on my paysites like Adultcheck did with my rebills, that would be a bitch for sure

You must have been one of the webmasters that were using stolen content and diverting traffic with no new sales, chump!

simple simon · 03-17-2005, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by martyVP

You must have been one of the webmasters that were using stolen content and diverting traffic with no new sales, chump!

Nice work, show the true colors Marty

mrthumbs · 03-17-2005, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by flashfire

I cant see it happening...rebills are making them bank too

thats simply not true.. not for adult at least..

martyVP · 03-17-2005, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

Not at all...since its your product I wouldn't use it if you paid me to.

If your product was the last way to conduct business on the web I'd find a new business.

Now, what's your source for Visa's so called threat? If you don't have a valid one then shut the fuck up troll.

I'd lay 100 to 1 that you just made it up so you could scare people into trying your product.

I gaurante you won't be this brave in person. lol

tony286 · 03-17-2005, 10:19 PM

checks checks checks with better scrubbing

pornguy · 03-17-2005, 10:20 PM

Visa has talked about doing that many times. I think that in the long run, they will find that it is not in their best interest to do it.

Snake Doctor · 03-17-2005, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by martyVP

I gaurante you won't be this brave in person. lol

I've never said anything on a message board that I wouldn't say in person.

I only do business with people that I like and respect.
You fail both tests, therefore I would never do business with you in any way, shape, or form.
You don't have to be brave for that.

I'll ask again.....what's your source for Visa cutting recurring memberships or did you make it up?

Also you seem to have conveniently ignored my post about the lawsuit that we would most definitely file and the injunction that we would most definitely get if Visa were to stop allowing us to rebill.

Since that would be tied up for years in court the need for products like yours wouldn't be so urgent....that would be a good reason for you to ignore that post wouldn't it? Then you wouldn't be able to pull your chicken little bullshit in order to drum up business.

martyVP · 03-17-2005, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

I've never said anything on a message board that I wouldn't say in person.

I only do business with people that I like and respect.
You fail both tests, therefore I would never do business with you in any way, shape, or form.
You don't have to be brave for that.

I'll ask again.....what's your source for Visa cutting recurring memberships or did you make it up?

Also you seem to have conveniently ignored my post about the lawsuit that we would most definitely file and the injunction that we would most definitely get if Visa were to stop allowing us to rebill.

Since that would be tied up for years in court the need for products like yours wouldn't be so urgent....that would be a good reason for you to ignore that post wouldn't it? Then you wouldn't be able to pull your chicken little bullshit in order to drum up business.

Maybe you should try and sue American Express for choosing not to work with adult.

Snake Doctor · 03-17-2005, 10:49 PM

One more time.....

WHAT'S YOUR FUCKING SOURCE TROLL???????

Until you tell us where this so called "threat" came from the rest of the discussion is pointless.

You just made the shit up to try and get business.

You'd figure that if a product was as great as you say it is that you wouldn't have to resort to these kind of tactics to sell it.

venus · 03-17-2005, 11:30 PM

wont happen, its more then adult internet sites that rebill.
AOL, most ISP's, magazines, ..everyone is into rebilling.

martyVP · 03-17-2005, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

One more time.....

WHAT'S YOUR FUCKING SOURCE TROLL???????

Until you tell us where this so called "threat" came from the rest of the discussion is pointless.

You just made the shit up to try and get business.

You'd figure that if a product was as great as you say it is that you wouldn't have to resort to these kind of tactics to sell it.

If you read carefully enough, you too will realize that this thread is actually asking about the validity of the heresay that we are all hearing from different sources in adult.

I never said i had a valid source, moron.

Snake Doctor · 03-17-2005, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by martyVP

If you read carefully enough, you too will realize that this thread is actually asking about the validity of the heresay that we are all hearing from different sources in adult.

I never said i had a valid source, moron.

THREAD TITLE - How much validity is there in Visa's threat to cut recurring memberships?

According to your title the threat HAS BEEN MADE by Visa and you're asking whether or not they'll follow through with it.

MORON

So my question is who at Visa did you hear the threat from because none of us knew there was a threat until you told us.

Oh, and its "hearsay"....if you're going to call someone a moron in a post the least you could do is spell check it.
Something I read once about the speck in your friends eye and the log in your own.

Paul Markham · 03-17-2005, 11:45 PM

The fear that stopping recurring membershipas would harm this business shows the lack of faith you have in your product and the industry you work in.

We are no longer a new baby, with people seeing us for the first time. 95% or even more of the surfers going through the adult Net have been there before. An even higher percentage of the buyers have been here before.

so we are not living off a one time impulse buy, we live off repeat customers who think $1 a day for a good porn experience is good value. If they can only join for a month some will rebill at the end and others will move onto the next porn site. Which will lead to more buyers looking for a new site to join.

Porn consumers buy on a regular basis, they are not impules buys. Surfers as young as 14 are surfing the adult net for years before they make their first purchase. And the belief that someone joins up and the recur month after month because they forgot is stupid.

How many guys would do that on an impulse buy and then not charge back at the end? How many sites do you think he joins before he notices all these monthl charges for $30?

The end of recurring billing would not be the end of the business, but it might be the end of retards who think a sign up is a fluke and a rebill a mistake.

martyVP · 03-17-2005, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

THREAD TITLE - How much validity is there in Visa's threat to cut recurring memberships?

According to your title the threat HAS BEEN MADE by Visa and you're asking whether or not they'll follow through with it.

MORON

So my question is who at Visa did you hear the threat from because none of us knew there was a threat until you told us.

Oh, and its "hearsay"....if you're going to call someone a moron in a post the least you could do is spell check it.
Something I read once about the speck in your friends eye and the log in your own.

stop hangin on my balls dickhead

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Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	The fear that stopping recurring membershipas would harm this business shows the lack of faith you have in your product and the industry you work in. We are no longer a new baby, with people seeing us for the first time. 95% or even more of the surfers going through the adult Net have been there before. An even higher percentage of the buyers have been here before. so we are not living off a one time impulse buy, we live off repeat customers who think $1 a day for a good porn experience is good value. If they can only join for a month some will rebill at the end and others will move onto the next porn site. Which will lead to more buyers looking for a new site to join. Porn consumers buy on a regular basis, they are not impules buys. Surfers as young as 14 are surfing the adult net for years before they make their first purchase. And the belief that someone joins up and the recur month after month because they forgot is stupid. How many guys would do that on an impulse buy and then not charge back at the end? How many sites do you think he joins before he notices all these monthl charges for $30? The end of recurring billing would not be the end of the business, but it might be the end of retards who think a sign up is a fluke and a rebill a mistake. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70