The Drama with Steve Lightspeed - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

ytcracker · 03-17-2005, 04:53 AM

50 for fun

V_RocKs · 03-17-2005, 05:01 AM

Hehe... lessons learned?

#1 Either pay your models what your competition is or don't bring them around your competition.
#2 The 18 C's of running a site, Contracts, Contracts, Contracts, Contracts, Contracts, Contracts, Contracts, Contracts, Contracts, Contracts, Contracts, Contracts, Contracts, Contracts, Contracts, Contracts, Contracts, Contracts!
#3 If all else fails, get another model and start on #1 again...

YodaYoga · 03-17-2005, 06:16 AM

I can't tell you how many young models come over to get famous and think that fucking the photog will get this.. I love this biz..

rounders · 03-17-2005, 06:49 AM

damn that was long

12clicks · 03-17-2005, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips

Get comfortable, because this may get long. If you?re not going to read the entire thing please don?t bother commenting.

I don?t kiss ass. That?s not my style. I appreciate what should be appreciated and speak out against things that are not right. I don?t care who the fuck the person is, I?ll speak out against them if they?re fucking someone over. Doubly so if that someone happens to be a member of my family.

I?m sure most people read my thread about Steve fucking my cousin over on a solo-girl website. Steve asked me why I didn?t come to him to talk about it first. I did. Almost a year ago. It was a major issue for weeks. We reached an agreement and that was that. This most recent drama happened when it appeared that agreement was dishonored.

Now, some things are right and some things are flat out wrong. It would be flat out wrong if I didn?t write this thread and let people know what?s happened in the past few days to take away my negative feelings towards Steve.

I now firmly believe that Steve didn?t INTEND to fuck anyone over. I?m not going to back off of the fact that it is very unfortunate for my cousin that she lost a model after investing several thousand dollars. She shot the model for several weeks, took her to Phoenix, and lost her to the glitz and glamour that is Lightspeed media. Once a model gets it into her mind that she could be part of the Lightspeed way of life she?s not going to be happy with anything else until she gets it. Those are all facts.

Before all of this, Steve and I got along just fine and dandy. In fact, I encouraged my cousin to work with him on her own site instead of working with me, because Steve has much more experience than anyone else when it comes to the single-girl niche. But when all of this drama began I blamed Steve and I let him know it right away. He?s the President of the company, and as such he must take full responsibility for the actions of his company, whether they?re his fault or not. As I said, this was a year ago. Steve agreed at the time to never launch a solo-girl site of this particular model. But he did say he?d use her as filler content on his other sites and make her into a sort of ? Lightspeed bad girl?.

My rampage last week was started when I discovered Steve had decided he?d go ahead and launch a site of this model after agreeing not to do so. In that thread even Steve himself indicated that such a promise had been made in the past. But the thing is, I now honestly believe that Steve thought things had been worked out and that it was now okay with all parties to proceed with the site. He felt released from the no-site agreement.

There have been a million different conversations with several different people about this matter. For awhile the situation changed on a near-daily basis. Steve was being told a million different things by a million different sources. God knows he?s busy enough already. It was up to the model and my cousin to come to a final agreement.

The point is that Steve didn?t purposefully fuck anyone over. In his mind the matter had been settled and was a part of the past. People involved were telling him that everything had been worked out. Steve was just looking towards the future. He didn?t purposely try to fuck anyone over. Shall I repeat that? He didn?t purposely try to fuck anyone over. Did I mention that he didn?t purposefully try to fuck anyone over?

I didn't believe that at first. After further conversations I really do now.

Did my cousin get fucked over? Yes. Was Steve Lightspeed at fault? It is now my opinion that it was not. One could definitely call this an expensive lesson and study on the psychology of models.

I am tired of the drama. A lot of egos were involved here. If all parties involved had dropped their egos long ago this wouldn?t even be an issue. I?ll admit my own ego is quite large, which makes this next sentence excruciatingly painful:

Steve, I am very sorry for quite a few different things. You and I know what all of those different things are? and as some of them were never publicly spoken of I?ll keep the details of this apology private: something between those involved.

One final piece of advice to other webmasters: don?t take your models to industry events. It?s not worth the relationships it will cost you.

just another unstable idiot.
models are a dime a dozen.
Steve should have told you to fuck off the first time he heard from you.

gangbangjoe · 03-17-2005, 08:39 AM

sig placement

whodarkman · 03-17-2005, 09:00 AM

Glad to see that you guys were man enough to work things out.

jimmyf · 03-17-2005, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio

I can't believe I read the whole thing.

i did also

Rinaldo · 03-17-2005, 09:33 AM

Anyone else feel like they jsut saw a great movie and the ending wasn't as great as it should have been?

Glad to see you two have kissed and made up

Donny · 03-17-2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBump

this sure is an amicable resolution considering how many surly historical skeletons were detailed in that thread between you two.

do you remember all the personal and family and behind the scenes shit you threw out there? you made your cousin look like a whore who slept with lightspeed's photographer for web favors and steve must have compassion and sympathy for you after your pathetic outbursts.

Whoever you really are, you need to start reading a bit for comprehension. The person that Steve is referring to in that thread "sleeping with the photographer" is not my cousin. It's the model that started all of this. Brandy/Skylar/Nikki.

Maybe we should type slower next time so that you can comprehend what is being said.

stev0 · 03-17-2005, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightspeed

Ok, love is in the air.

For my next trick, I plan to steal Naughty Allie, Busty Rachel, Vanilla Deville, and Sunny Leone from their current site deals. I love those ladies!

Seriously, I have made some mistakes along the way, and I honestly try NOT to steal models away from anyone. It's bad business. We are all growing up together here, this is new territory for everyone.

Apology accepted, drama over, now let's get back to making money!

Steve Lightspeed

Stealing models...? It would seem to me that it's the models choice. If you treat your models better than other producers, then maybe thats just a wakeup call for those other producers.

SBJ · 03-17-2005, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips

I think it's remarkable that two guys who didn't want to do so could put down the ego long enough to talk things through. That is a hard thing for me to do. I don't know if it was hard for Steve or not, but I know I wasn't one of his favorite people. That should be noted.

awesome! Glad to hear you 2 worked things out

gecko · 03-17-2005, 12:06 PM

Nice to hear, everything is worked out.

stev0 · 03-17-2005, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks

models are a dime a dozen.

I think this is the first post you've ever made that I agree with

12clicks · 03-17-2005, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stev0

I think this is the first post you've ever made that I agree with

Then it would be the first time you were right.

tapatio · 09-08-2005, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips

Once a model gets it into her mind that she could be part of the Lightspeed way of life she?s not going to be happy with anything else until she gets it.

What exactly is the "Lightspeed way of life" ?

Kard63 · 09-08-2005, 09:57 PM

I read the whole thing. I will try to never put myself in a position to get fucked. I'll never bring a model to a show.

Thanks.

llporter · 09-08-2005, 10:05 PM

to long for me -- but check out this babe -- she is what started the earlier thread -- would you use her for a solo site?

RogerV · 09-08-2005, 10:21 PM

I brought 4 girls to a show. you just have to keep your pimp hand strong and bitch slap them if they stray. pimpin internet girls 201

DebsDeep · 09-09-2005, 04:41 AM

How bout a site labeled "lightspeed milfs"

Kanon · 09-09-2005, 05:57 AM

Takes a real professional to actually admit there's been fault in the past and it's time to move on.

Good call!

Paul Markham · 09-09-2005, 06:17 AM

I learned very early in my porn career that good looking new models are gold dust, you never show them to anyone until you're completely finished with them.

They will always leave if they think there is more money elsewhere. They are freelance and we do not own them. Also models don't get STOLEN, they leave under their own steam.

YankBro · 09-09-2005, 07:20 AM

long story short....don't take your models to industry events if you don't got game. Someone who does will smell your lameness and steal your ho...it's a story as old as time.

Sexvilly · 09-09-2005, 07:29 AM

what's the url of a site?

jimmyf · 09-09-2005, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tytan

yours cousins a ho

OMG .....

jimmyf · 09-09-2005, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBump

then start keeping your big kiss-ass mouth shut like a good boy.

I could say something but.......

polle54 · 09-09-2005, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips

Please read my first sentence again. Then do what it says. Steve was not bashed.

I'd call you an idiot but I'm tired of being mean to people.

I guess I could do it for you Donovan, since he is a fucking moron..

Idiot!!!

DBS.US · 09-09-2005, 07:43 AM

"LightSpeed BAD girl" does she have a tattoo?

NickB. · 09-09-2005, 08:30 AM

If everyone acted like this the world would be a better and safer place!

Good read, I hope people learn from this!

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