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Old 03-16-2005, 01:19 PM   #1
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Webmaster FRAUD CAUGHT - INFO for program owners

I just Banned 3 accounts from pornstardollars.com for fraud (and 1 last period) with these account details below.

This guy is picking 2 sites to signup up under each of his accounts then using the same payment info for both, and putting 90% of his transactions through on the last day of the pay period (03-15-05) all monthly signups, NO TRAILS.

3 Accounts totaling about $2100 in sales, with a payout of about $1000 (300-400 each) was stopped. (chargebacks will surely follow)

This is the only info that kind of matches on the 3 accounts, but look for a hign number of transaction on the last day oif the period, then do a little research and you will come up with what i did. I'm sure he is doing this to other.

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Old 03-16-2005, 02:38 PM   #2
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Old 03-16-2005, 02:40 PM   #3
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Old 03-16-2005, 02:41 PM   #4
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Old 03-16-2005, 03:29 PM   #5
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Old 03-16-2005, 03:42 PM   #6
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Old 03-16-2005, 03:47 PM   #7
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Old 03-16-2005, 05:04 PM   #8
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Chris, if you refund all the signups you won't get chargebacks
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Old 03-16-2005, 05:11 PM   #9
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Old 03-16-2005, 05:32 PM   #10
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Old 03-16-2005, 05:33 PM   #11
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Old 03-16-2005, 05:34 PM   #12
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course I got him after the first 5 signups it was just to odd they were all single month at 34.95 which is the highest payout for the affiliates.. did some reasearch and bam got him.. banned him
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Old 03-16-2005, 05:34 PM   #13
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Old 03-16-2005, 05:40 PM   #14
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Its funny, La Tuque is a shit hole village with like 200 ppl living there .. lol
Im surprised they even have internet access.
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Old 03-16-2005, 05:44 PM   #15
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YARGH! It's why I only do invite only! No tallywaggers be sailin' on the good ship Chio. Good info though. I'd run him through with me swordfish beak, and hoist him up by his testicles on me mast! Ahoy!
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Old 03-16-2005, 05:45 PM   #16
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Old 03-16-2005, 05:46 PM   #17
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Old 03-16-2005, 05:47 PM   #18
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He applied to XBC and we never approved the signup and rejected him.
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Old 03-16-2005, 05:52 PM   #19
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Why did we reject him? He said he owned Al4A.com --

Don't think he owned such a legacy site with a hotmail address..LOL...so we rejected.
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Old 03-16-2005, 06:21 PM   #20
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Its funny, La Tuque is a shit hole village with like 200 ppl living there .. lol
Im surprised they even have internet access.


La Tuque is the butt of jokes by the rest of Quebec. I've been there several times actually (don't ask) and it's one of the worst shit holes there is.

If I can help to track That Alex Cayer boy down, let me know
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Old 03-16-2005, 06:27 PM   #21
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Old 03-16-2005, 06:36 PM   #22
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His ePassporte should be terminated as well.
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Old 03-16-2005, 06:40 PM   #23
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Old 03-16-2005, 06:44 PM   #24
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yep La Tuque is really the Quebec shithole, like 4 hours from my house :P

shitty place to live
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Old 03-16-2005, 06:48 PM   #26
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Chris, if you refund all the signups you won't get chargebacks
That's not true. This guy could have easily initiated the chargeback process already. In that case if the account is refunded then Chris could be hit with the refund as well as the chargeback.
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Old 03-16-2005, 06:51 PM   #27
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Old 03-16-2005, 07:47 PM   #28
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Old 03-16-2005, 07:59 PM   #29
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same guy in my system....
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Old 07-10-2005, 02:13 AM   #30
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YEP !!!

I noticed some strange things on our reports for an account, and our details match that. We refunded the signups and killed the account.

It was almost definitely fraud. Same guy.
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Old 07-10-2005, 02:17 AM   #31
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Old 07-10-2005, 02:37 AM   #33
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Old 07-10-2005, 02:44 AM   #34
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Someone let KimmyKim know so she can terminate his epassporte account.
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Old 07-10-2005, 03:09 AM   #35
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Old 07-10-2005, 09:21 AM   #36
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along the lines of webmaster fraud....some CP operators use sponsor programs to fund their activities.

what they do is send out CP spam, and use some freehosting site where they rotate among sponsor programs as an affiliate webmaster. they join up to multiple programs and would cycle through them.

the CP seeker is instructed to join a non-CP website, and then email the CP operator their username/pass so they can logon and verify. Once this has been tested, the CP Operator emails the CP seeker with the real CP websites and user/pass.

So if you are able to track a new member signup and see that they only logged in one time, and you have several of these, it is possible that you could be unwittingly used to fund CP.

I have had some paysite owners tell me that it's not that uncommon for a person to join and only logon one time after they joined..... um..ok.....



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Old 07-10-2005, 03:49 PM   #39
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along the lines of webmaster fraud....some CP operators use sponsor programs to fund their activities.

what they do is send out CP spam, and use some freehosting site where they rotate among sponsor programs as an affiliate webmaster. they join up to multiple programs and would cycle through them.

the CP seeker is instructed to join a non-CP website, and then email the CP operator their username/pass so they can logon and verify. Once this has been tested, the CP Operator emails the CP seeker with the real CP websites and user/pass.

So if you are able to track a new member signup and see that they only logged in one time, and you have several of these, it is possible that you could be unwittingly used to fund CP.

I have had some paysite owners tell me that it's not that uncommon for a person to join and only logon one time after they joined..... um..ok.....



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how do you know this?
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Old 07-10-2005, 03:54 PM   #40
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Yeah, he tried to hit us also... back in 11/2004. Moron actually, fraud alerts caught him within his first hour.


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how do you know this?
He's right. I handle all of our complaints, whether spam, CP, etc... and I've seen CP sites redirect to sponsor program signup pages. Although I haven't personally seen email instructions such as Brandon references.

Obviously such incidents are reported to the proper authorities.
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how do you know this?

because i develop/provide all the technology to ASACP and when an ASACP member is found to be taken advantage of, they get contacted.

The FBI was even involved in a sting operation, where the sponsor program kept paying the CP affiliate webmaster in order for the FBI to do their thing.


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I just Banned 3 accounts from pornstardollars.com for fraud (and 1 last period) with these account details below.

This guy is picking 2 sites to signup up under each of his accounts then using the same payment info for both, and putting 90% of his transactions through on the last day of the pay period (03-15-05) all monthly signups, NO TRAILS.

3 Accounts totaling about $2100 in sales, with a payout of about $1000 (300-400 each) was stopped. (chargebacks will surely follow)

This is the only info that kind of matches on the 3 accounts, but look for a hign number of transaction on the last day oif the period, then do a little research and you will come up with what i did. I'm sure he is doing this to other.

LA TUQUE, QUEBEC G9X2E9
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Thanks Chris...
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I just Banned 3 accounts from pornstardollars.com for fraud (and 1 last period) with these account details below.

This guy is picking 2 sites to signup up under each of his accounts then using the same payment info for both, and putting 90% of his transactions through on the last day of the pay period (03-15-05) all monthly signups, NO TRAILS.

3 Accounts totaling about $2100 in sales, with a payout of about $1000 (300-400 each) was stopped. (chargebacks will surely follow)

This is the only info that kind of matches on the 3 accounts, but look for a hign number of transaction on the last day oif the period, then do a little research and you will come up with what i did. I'm sure he is doing this to other.

LA TUQUE, QUEBEC G9X2E9
LA TUQUE, QUEBEC G9X2S1
damn fucking country bumpkin's!!! hehehehe out there in cold fuckin land of La tuque
they got nothing to do out there
but thanx for the heads up though!!
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