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Old 03-12-2005, 05:16 PM   #1
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Any webmasters here suffer from sleep apnea?

What do you do to help fight fatigue in the day time besides use a corrective airway mask at night, I been fighting this shit for 4 years now its taking me down hardcore, Gets so bad where i can barely get any work done i dont want to crawl out of dream land because im so tired.
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Old 03-12-2005, 05:17 PM   #2
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Get some excercise during the day! That's the most important factor, also make sure you drink at least 5 - 8 cups of water a day.
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Old 03-12-2005, 05:19 PM   #3
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Just get the mask. It isn't that bad once you get used to it. I've been sleeping with it for... shit... 8 years?

They have an alternative mask... I can't think of the proper name but it uses "nasal pillows". Much more comfortable than the standard mask.
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Old 03-12-2005, 05:19 PM   #4
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Get some excercise during the day! That's the most important factor, also make sure you drink at least 5 - 8 cups of water a day.
I must admit exercise does help but right now i'm fighting cracked ribs so i cant exercise and damn let me tell you sleep apnea is kicking my ass already on round 15 with the bitch and he wont K.O ;)
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Old 03-12-2005, 05:20 PM   #5
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Just get the mask. It isn't that bad once you get used to it. I've been sleeping with it for... shit... 8 years?

They have an alternative mask... I can't think of the proper name but it uses "nasal pillows". Much more comfortable than the standard mask.
Great! Its good to know other people here suffer with it, I got the Oracle mouth piece its like a pacifer its nice, I need to get a new CPAP machine one that adjusts airflow over the night to what your body needs, but hell those are 800 bucks and insurance wont dick with it haha
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Old 03-12-2005, 05:23 PM   #6
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This is the one I mentioned: http://www.cpap.com/productpage/1136

I actually have a scar on my nose from getting cut by the standard masks.
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Old 03-12-2005, 05:25 PM   #7
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This is the one I mentioned: http://www.cpap.com/productpage/1136

I actually have a scar on my nose from getting cut by the standard masks.
Yeah i used that before, I cant have anything on my face, straps i mean make me gitty feeling so i dont wear it, I need to buy a new CPAP Machine with a Humidifer and with the C-Flex technology, It adjusts pressure over the night when you dont need it as much and they also have a statistics plugin to see how you did at night on your computer, pretty fucking sweet.
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Old 03-12-2005, 05:25 PM   #8
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I dated a guy who had it. Scared the shit out of me how he would stop breathing at night. I think I lost more sleep than he did because I always wanted to be awake if I needed to smack him into breathing or something!
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Old 03-12-2005, 05:26 PM   #9
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If you want to take the time to invest in one of the best masks that you wont notice and your a mouth breather sly..

http://www.cpap.com/productpage/1551

Works great, feels like you got a boxing mouth guard in and thats it
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Old 03-12-2005, 05:27 PM   #10
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I dated a guy who had it. Scared the shit out of me how he would stop breathing at night. I think I lost more sleep than he did because I always wanted to be awake if I needed to smack him into breathing or something!
LOL, Yeah That's why i dont have a long term girlfriend right now because i cant put someone through the torture of listening to me snore and freak them out, I stopped breathing 660 times in a 6 hour period on a sleep study
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Old 03-12-2005, 05:34 PM   #11
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I dated a guy who had it. Scared the shit out of me how he would stop breathing at night. I think I lost more sleep than he did because I always wanted to be awake if I needed to smack him into breathing or something!
My dad and grandpa both have it as well.

I remember my dad waking up in the middle of the night because he stopped breathing. Would totally freak him out and he would do the funniest things afterwards because it always happened during a dream. Once he brought a bat into my room and I asked him what the hell he was doing... until I had "woke" him up by talking to him, he thought someone was trying to break into my room. Hahaha. I can't tell you how many times he intentionally woke me up thinking I needed him for something...

A while back I was visiting and noticed a blade missing from the ceiling fan in his room. Needless to say, he couldn't find his bat.
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Old 03-12-2005, 05:35 PM   #12
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I did some research on it for a paper about 10 years ago

Psycology can be a good tool for treating it..... Its all to do with the fight or flight response

I have also seen some stuff more recenently about a connection with cardiac arrhythmia like AF.

The fight or flight stuff is very interesting... Im sure a google search would tell u more
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Old 03-12-2005, 05:36 PM   #13
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I did some research on it for a paper about 10 years ago

Psycology can be a good tool for treating it..... Its all to do with the fight or flight response

I have also seen some stuff more recenently about a connection with cardiac arrhythmia like AF.

The fight or flight stuff is very interesting... Im sure a google search would tell u more

So your saying its all a mental problem? lol
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Old 03-12-2005, 05:53 PM   #14
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I've had my CPAP for about 2 years and it makes quite a bit of difference... when I use it.
I am REALLY bad about not using it for weeks at a time. Then I will get so run down that I can't do anything online and have to force myself to start wearing it again. It's not that is is uncomfortable or that I think I look funny when I wear it, it's just that I get lazy. I stop using it and pretty much within a couple days I start on a downward spiral. I fall asleep at the monitor, become grumpy, want to sleep more, have almost zero concentration.
Been about 2 weeks since I used it last. It's sitting right next to my bed, I don't know why I don't just slip it on at night.
Been working long hours the past couple weeks trying to get new stuff off the ground and I know much of the exhaustion I feel could be eliminated by wearing my mask. I think tonight I will be putting it back on. Hopefully I can stay on the CPAP wagon.
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I've also been wanting to check into Provigil http://www.provigil.com
It is supposed to make you much more awake during the day without making it hard for you to sleep at night.
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Old 03-12-2005, 06:06 PM   #15
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I've had my CPAP for about 2 years and it makes quite a bit of difference... when I use it.
I am REALLY bad about not using it for weeks at a time. Then I will get so run down that I can't do anything online and have to force myself to start wearing it again. It's not that is is uncomfortable or that I think I look funny when I wear it, it's just that I get lazy. I stop using it and pretty much within a couple days I start on a downward spiral. I fall asleep at the monitor, become grumpy, want to sleep more, have almost zero concentration.
Been about 2 weeks since I used it last. It's sitting right next to my bed, I don't know why I don't just slip it on at night.
Been working long hours the past couple weeks trying to get new stuff off the ground and I know much of the exhaustion I feel could be eliminated by wearing my mask. I think tonight I will be putting it back on. Hopefully I can stay on the CPAP wagon.
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I've also been wanting to check into Provigil http://www.provigil.com
It is supposed to make you much more awake during the day without making it hard for you to sleep at night.
Nice that Provigil, I'm going to have to ask my doctor about that see wtf he thinks, I know ive almost got in many-o car wrecks from being mentally cluster fucked from sleep apnea haha
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Old 03-12-2005, 06:16 PM   #16
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What do you do to help fight fatigue in the day time besides use a corrective airway mask at night, I been fighting this shit for 4 years now its taking me down hardcore, Gets so bad where i can barely get any work done i dont want to crawl out of dream land because im so tired.
my cousin has been going through that for many years. He has put his life on hold till it clears up . Good luck man.
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Old 03-12-2005, 08:25 PM   #17
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I've tried a couple of things,

1. uvulapalatopharyngoplasty (I think that's the right word)

I had huge tonsils and a flappy palate, so this op got rid of them. It was incredibly painful, but a couple of weeks after the op when it subsided I was literally bouncing off the walls each morning. I felt GREAT! That only lasted about 3 weeks though, probably because I started putting back on the weight that I lost due to the op...


2. CPAP

This worked for a couple of days but after that I would wake up with my nose blocked and gasping for air (since you can't breathe through your mouth when the CPAP is going). It has never worked since, and now I have a constantly stuffy and sometimes runny nose, even in the middle of summer. It has definitely done some long term damage.


I think the best way to treat it is fairly simple in principle, although it may not be so simple in practice: lose weight. I'm not diving into a diet but I'm slowly weaning myself off things like chocolate (I find a cucumber is a good substitute if I feel like a snack)

BTW my wife never told me that I was gasping for air, she only ever complained about my snoring. It wasn't until I went on camp that someone else told me about it and I became VERY concerned!
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PS: the UPPP op cured my snoring. I rarely snore now unless I'm on my back, which is not a normal position for me.
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Old 03-12-2005, 08:27 PM   #19
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Sure do, I get up in the middle of the night checking stats and emails. I need help
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Old 03-12-2005, 08:40 PM   #20
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PS: the UPPP op cured my snoring. I rarely snore now unless I'm on my back, which is not a normal position for me.
Had that all, Cept the uvula removed which i dont want i choke enough on liquids the way it is

I had one of the worst cases the neurologist had seen in his 25 years in indiana, and hes one of the bigger sleep study doctors in indiana lol, Loosing weight hasnt done shit for me, I'm still just as bad as i was when i was 300lbs and now im 230 so weight is bullshit, its mainly loose muscles on your wind pipe and throat that collapses
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wow, i had no idea this was so common,
my gf's dad has this. he HAS to sleep with that pump on at night or he won't breathe once he falls asleep. sort of freaked me out, what a way to have to live, remembering to breathe during the day, having to rely on a machine at night to live, i feel for you guys.

Her dad is 80 though, almost 81 and pretty good shape otherwize. He rode his Indian Motorcycle to Daytona Beach Bike Week twice so far this year and dealt with this crowd. (only 80 mile round trip but heh)
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wow, i had no idea this was so common,
my gf's dad has this. he HAS to sleep with that pump on at night or he won't breathe once he falls asleep. sort of freaked me out, what a way to have to live, remembering to breathe during the day, having to rely on a machine at night to live, i feel for you guys.

Her dad is 80 though, almost 81 and pretty good shape otherwize. He rode his Indian Motorcycle to Daytona Beach Bike Week twice so far this year and dealt with this crowd. (only 80 mile round trip but heh)
Yeah its a very common thing now adays, Most depression can be caused by sleep apnea.
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I never knew how bad my apnea was until I had a sleep study. I slept 3 nights in a row at a hospital with a special sleep study room. The video taped with nightvision all night and had me hooked up to a bunch of monitors. Was weird to watch myself stop breathing for a while and then gasp for air.
2AM and I'm about to go to bed and put my mask on. Late nights are a killer when I don't use it. Wake up the next day not being able to accomplish anything. Good night!
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