While I am not sure I would answer that question if I could, I will say this:

XXXDwarf (whose stats were posted on page 1) is one of our top earners. He did not even join SPP until August. Those were his first first 2 1/2 months ($18,755).

It works

Yes it does!

True...One of the best things is to use the members area galleries for your promotional galleries as well. Why make twice the effort when you can do it all at once? You just switch the members area galleries to upsell the sponsor instead of the AVS;)

Sorry charly, I still think traffic is king...

You can have the worst content (for example, free sponsor content) and still make sales if you send it 100K hits. But if you have the best content in the world and can only send it 1K hits, you might never make a sale. You just can't make sales with no traffic. You can make sales with shitty content.

This is quite true . . . and why everyone should invest $149 and investigate their linking relationships with others. :thumbsup

I've been doing AVS since '97 and have sites I have literally not touched in 7 years still making money. Don't let the doubters scare you off.

Baddog, any chance of starting a recurring program with SexPicturePass?

content is king and traffic is its queen. Of course if you had some really good content and no traffic you wouldn't get anywhere but even if you had google.com redirect to your site and your content is trash you won't get anywhere. They go hand in hand and you better make sure both are of the highest quality

ROFL..

Matt

lol. "Sorry charly"
http://www.modelperfect.com/gfy/charlietuna.gif

There is no money to be earn in porn !

teen niche huh? All this time I thought teen had low conversions. I'll take another look at it

No, I avoid all the VISA issues with my current business model, and I would like to keep it that way. :thumbsup

In fact, I am opening two new AVS's this year, and both will most likely follow the same model. Like they say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. :winkwink:

Put it this way . . . the guy was making sales before I even had a chance to review his site.

The $4.95 trial has to convert for the affiliate to get paid?

Whats the average conversion ratio for SPP?

I'm sure the access to Hustler should help :)

have you tried using freeagecard or sexkey instead of SPP or other free/cheap avs systems?

there are easier ways to make 100k

No, get the trial signup, and you get paid

Who are you talking to?

We filter our traffic by niche. Some goes to Hustler, some goes to AdultPaymaster, it depends on what category you submit your site under.

As far as the conversion ratios, I hesitate to say as it is usually followed by such terms as "bullshit" and "no way."

I would say a standard ratio is somewhere between 1:25 and 1:50 unless you are sending blind link traffic.

The filtering has worked wonders

Just out of curiosity - what happened to period 20 on the stats that was posted earlier?

Sheepo

Wait... there are no more streets lined with gold? Say it ain't so.

That would be underage teen http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=376946

I guess baddog is so desperate to get some business that he has no problem bragging about what an affiliate dabbling in underage stuff made even though he kicked this affiliate out of his own program a while ago. Or maybe he's just too old to remember.

"His account was closed 10/11. He was notified 10/11"

and

"It just goes to show even if you are making big money thru and for us that I will cut you off if I find out you are violating our TOS."

I guess that explains why his stats ended when they did. Also he only started in August because that's when he stopped getting paid from his previous program.

I've used tons of AVS in the past 8 years, and am going to try out SPP for my newest site.
Started with AgeCheck/CyberAge/AVSofChoice: worked well, but had some problems with them, so don't use them anymore
Validate was my first biggest, but I guess they're dead now
AdultAge I used for a brief period, but they're dead too
AdultCheck was awesome, but not anymore
AdultSights was and is awesome
FreeNetPass is good and converts pretty well...plus fun to party with :)
FreeAgeCard never worked extremely well for me
SexKey = ditto

So my recommendation based on experience would be FreeNetPass or AdultSights . (yeah, I left the referral link in, so sue me). SexPicturesPass seems promising and Baddog cool to work with, but I don't have any data yet (haven't launched yet)...but I suspect it'll work out pretty well

Yes but those ratios are from people clicking from the join page on a webmasters tour to your signup form correct?
After the program has already been explained to them?

This is pretty similar to the 1/20-1/50 ratios we get from sexkey.
But sales vs hits to the tour are a whole different ballgame.

IIRC, he runs a AVS and the members started sending in their own pics and he included them in the site but got burned because he didn't have the 2257 docs. He has since taken them down.

But people like you keep saying its CP underage content, hence he stopped posting on forums.

Just saw this. You are an idiot, and do not know what the fuck you are talking about. There was no proof of underage teen. Questions had been brought up about some of the content, and when I investigated it, I discovered he did not have license on some of the content as it was sent in to him. So I closed his account.

He got rid of all content that he could not show license for and was allowed to begin using us again. However, he has stopped posting on boards due to libelous comments by people like you.

Bump for this thread.

We count hits to our join page. There is no SPP tour. The webmaster provides his own tour. We have our join page which goes directly to Hustler or AdultPaymaster.

I finally addressed this topic here.