So if someone wanted to sell an Affiliate program for $2.5 million - GoFuckYourself.com

MetaformX · 03-11-2005, 03:30 PM

If a company wanted to sell their adult Affiliate program and lets say that program was generating $100,000 per month in net profits, and their asking price was 2.5 Million, which translates to 24 months net profit, which I think would be fair considering the assets needed to run a program that is generating $100,000 per month in NET PROFITS...

Would there be any buyers out there?

The reason I ask is I have seen several programs just close down instead of the owners even attempting to sell the program, which begs the question, would there be any buyers out there with that kind of financial backing that would invest 1 or 2 million dollars to purchase a thriving program? Or build their own from scratch?

DutchTeenCash · 03-11-2005, 03:41 PM

im sure there are ppl here who could cough up 2 mln but most of them run big programs themselves and wouldnt be interested imho... then again there are lotsa ppl out there who burn 5mln a year just on high risk ventures so theres a market for sure...

from a webmaster pov : im proud to be at this point with this nett profit with dutchteencash and wouldnt wanna buy a program for whatever money

azguy · 03-11-2005, 03:42 PM

No way in hell. Only a sucker would pay this much

Young · 03-11-2005, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by azguy

No way in hell. Only a sucker would pay this much

How would you know? Your Adultie.com has been in the works since you joined the site

the anticipation is killing us.

Furious_Female · 03-11-2005, 03:44 PM

It would be a worthy investment for someone in that financial league; providing all the documentation is there and the sites/memberships/affiliates have the same promising future.

MetaformX · 03-11-2005, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by azguy

No way in hell. Only a sucker would pay this much

Well, 2 years X Net Profits as a measure of a adult online business's worth could be disputed. It could be 1 year X Net profits, but that would still be 1.2 Million.

JesseD · 03-11-2005, 03:46 PM

I think the price is reasonable - but I don't think there are too many programs that are netting 100k a month that are closing down.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-11-2005, 03:46 PM

Funny thing is, I have matched up buyers and sellers of programs for a little while now.

People do buy them!

MrJackMeHoff · 03-11-2005, 03:49 PM

As volitile as adult programs seem to be looks like an idiots deal to me.

teksonline · 03-11-2005, 03:49 PM

A lot of red tape to consider other than the affiliate program itself, from the sites, content rights, technology side.. If a company had 2.5 million to spend then they really wouldnt need to buy another persons established system, I wouldnt think.

thepornplayer · 03-11-2005, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaformX

If a company wanted to sell their adult Affiliate program and lets say that program was generating $100,000 per month in net profits, and their asking price was 2.5 Million, which translates to 24 months net profit, which I think would be fair considering the assets needed to run a program that is generating $100,000 per month in NET PROFITS...

Would there be any buyers out there?

The reason I ask is I have seen several programs just close down instead of the owners even attempting to sell the program, which begs the question, would there be any buyers out there with that kind of financial backing that would invest 1 or 2 million dollars to purchase a thriving program? Or build their own from scratch?

no way. It is not just about the affiliation program but about the sites its promote. What is the total revenue and the profitability v. menaging more sites. also , getting back 2.5 million in two years is 2 mich in this indusrty.

So , if the buyer does not have a strategic agenda , there is not deal with these numbers.

DutchTeenCash · 03-11-2005, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaformX

Well, 2 years X Net Profits as a measure of a adult online business's worth could be disputed. It could be 1 year X Net profits, but that would still be 1.2 Million.

believe me ppl who can burn 1-2 mln arent interested in adult

thepornplayer · 03-11-2005, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by thinkx

believe me ppl who can burn 1-2 mln arent interested in adult

not true !

DutchTeenCash · 03-11-2005, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by thepornplayer

not true !

sadfully it is, my best buddy deals with these ppl workin at the biggest private bank in the world, talked to him bout this many times, im not talkin bout joe average who has 1 mln, but ppl who burn 5 mln a month on russian private banks

Shooting_Manic · 03-11-2005, 03:53 PM

Interesting. However, $400,000 can build a very strong set of sites and all the trafffic they would need to build it into a 100k net a month program in a years time.

DutchTeenCash · 03-11-2005, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Shooting_Manic

Interesting. However, $400,000 can build a very strong set of sites and all the trafffic they would need to build it into a 100k net a month program in a years time.

money is nice, but it takes a lot more, every webm knows that plus i seriously doubt 400k builds a 100k nett/month program in 1 yr

BRISK · 03-11-2005, 03:55 PM

I would rather spend the $2.5M on building a new affiliate program.

DutchTeenCash · 03-11-2005, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BRISK

I would rather spend the $2.5M on building a new affiliate program.

exactly thats the true spirit

thepornplayer · 03-11-2005, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by thinkx

sadfully it is, my best buddy deals with these ppl workin at the biggest private bank in the world, talked to him bout this many times, im not talkin bout joe average who has 1 mln, but ppl who burn 5 mln a month on russian private banks

most of them not, I agree. There are exceptions. especialy people who grown within tha adult industry.

MetaformX · 03-11-2005, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Shooting_Manic

Interesting. However, $400,000 can build a very strong set of sites and all the trafffic they would need to build it into a 100k net a month program in a years time.

Not anyone with $400,000 can start a affiliate program and make it a success. You have to have the know how if you want to create a program that nets $100,000 per month. But the flip side of that is if you have $400K to start a program, you are probably no dummie when it comes to starting a business.

So the question really is, would there be anyone out there with 1-2 million to invest in a program that would prefer that purchasing an already succefull program, as oppose to investing $200,000 and building their own program from scratch and saving a couple of million.

thepornplayer · 03-11-2005, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaformX

Not anyone with $400,000 can start a affiliate program and make it a success. You have to have the know how if you want to create a program that nets $100,000 per month. But the flip side of that is if you have $400K to start a program, you are probably no dummie when it comes to starting a business.

So the question really is, would there be anyone out there with 1-2 million to invest in a program that would prefer that purchasing an already succefull program, as oppose to investing $200,000 and building their own program from scratch and saving a couple of million.

the time factor should be taken into consideration. 2.5 years for returning your investment is way too much in this indusrty.

V_RocKs · 03-11-2005, 04:02 PM

No... the return time for the investment is to great since the sites may be crap in that length of time. Also, no one leaves a $100,000 profit per month program... they leave programs with 5,000 a month in profit and $250,000 gross... or worse...

DutchTeenCash · 03-11-2005, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by thepornplayer

most of them not, I agree. There are exceptions. especialy people who grown within tha adult industry.

there are maybe 5 ppl within the adult industry who can burn 5 mln a month, there are 100s who can outside. I didnt see anyone in the adult biz on Forbes lately...

MetaformX · 03-11-2005, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MrJackMeHoff

As volitile as adult programs seem to be looks like an idiots deal to me.

Everyone talks about how volatile this industry is, and that is true, but one of the major reasons for the volitaility is the nature of the internet, so any purely internet business, wether adult or not, will always have a higher degree of volatility.

Of course due to the particular nature of adult, that degree of volatility is slightly raised, but MAX CASH, ARS, CE, and some of the other dinosaurs in the industry have risen through the volatility, and unless some ground breaking regulation is passed that fundemantally changes the way adult does business on the internet, there will always be companies around that can rise above the volatility.

Ok, I'll stop saying volatility now.

DutchTeenCash · 03-11-2005, 04:08 PM

dont wanna be an ahole but i just clicked sites and got this

Warning: Smarty error: unable to read resource: "sites.tpl" in /usr/home/metaformx/nats/Smarty-2.6.7/libs/Smarty.class.php on line 1088

and on signup

Warning: Smarty error: unable to read resource: "signup_adv0.tpl" in /usr/home/metaformx/nats/Smarty-2.6.7/libs/Smarty.class.php on line 1088

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MetaformX · 03-11-2005, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

no one leaves a $100,000 profit per month program...

I disagree. Many people in adult have aspirations of mainstream success, especially those who have made money in this business and are looking to diversify.

If you had a chance to take 2 years worth of your money upfront, and invest it in a mainstream project (there are never a shortage of those) many people would consider it.

MetaformX · 03-11-2005, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by thinkx

dont wanna be an ahole but i just clicked sites and got this

Warning: Smarty error: unable to read resource: "sites.tpl" in /usr/home/metaformx/nats/Smarty-2.6.7/libs/Smarty.class.php on line 1088

and on signup

Warning: Smarty error: unable to read resource: "signup_adv0.tpl" in /usr/home/metaformx/nats/Smarty-2.6.7/libs/Smarty.class.php on line 1088

Warning: Smarty error: unable to read resource: "signup_adv0.tpl" in /usr/home/metaformx/nats/Smarty-2.6.7/libs/Smarty.class.php on line 1088

Right, the signup and sites are down for a reason

We are doing in house testing, so it's not ready for release untill it's maximized. Just a few more days.

Shooting_Manic · 03-11-2005, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaformX

Not anyone with $400,000 can start a affiliate program and make it a success. You have to have the know how if you want to create a program that nets $100,000 per month. But the flip side of that is if you have $400K to start a program, you are probably no dummie when it comes to starting a business.

So the question really is, would there be anyone out there with 1-2 million to invest in a program that would prefer that purchasing an already succefull program, as oppose to investing $200,000 and building their own program from scratch and saving a couple of million.

I would build it myself without question and might be doing just that.

Why buy someone elses problems when you can create your own? haha

Also, I would not invest it into paysites either. Adult yes, paysites, no.

MetaformX · 03-11-2005, 04:15 PM

Didn't Marc De sell a portion of ARS to another company a few years ago? Many assume he is still the main owner of ARS, but I was under the impression that his role is more in the area of a director. If that is correct, I wonder how much ARS was sold for? I could be totally off though, maybe someone can correct me.

Alex · 03-11-2005, 04:17 PM

No one would buy a program
But you would be able to sell the paysites, with active members and rebills

DutchTeenCash · 03-11-2005, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaformX

Right, the signup and sites are down for a reason

We are doing in house testing, so it's not ready for release untill it's maximized. Just a few more days.

k got that... a few lines on a blank page would be nicer imho...

robfantasy · 03-11-2005, 04:18 PM

how bout hire a headhunter to coax super affiliates into pushing your program.

mrthumbs · 03-11-2005, 04:19 PM

2 years is waay to much in this business (processing!!) maybbe 6 monthsd and you could find a large program to buy you out.

detoxed · 03-11-2005, 04:20 PM

For $2 million online, you can double your money at least every 12 months. Why waste the money buying an affiliate program that will make you less than starting up a new one?

fünkmaster · 03-11-2005, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Shooting_Manic

Interesting. However, $400,000 can build a very strong set of sites and all the trafffic they would need to build it into a 100k net a month program in a years time.

... if you could do that, I'd give you half a mil and make you a 50% partner.

MetaformX · 03-11-2005, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by thinkx

k got that... a few lines on a blank page would be nicer imho...

Your right, we will do that. Thanks for the input.

punker barbie · 03-11-2005, 04:23 PM

Shir anyone can try sell anything, but it might be a tough job finding a buyer. best bet is to do payments or something.

sonofsam · 03-11-2005, 04:30 PM

this is a great thread

learned a lot

Kimmykim · 03-11-2005, 04:31 PM

The price isn't bad from a multiples standpoint. BUT, in this industry, I wouldn't consider doing it. There are too many things that could go wrong in two years to create a loss instead of a break even.

xxxdesign-net · 03-11-2005, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by fünkmaster

... if you could do that, I'd give you half a mil and make you a 50% partner.

I could do it... Its ashame I dont know you enough to do any kind of partnership... But this thread made me realise what a retard I was for not spending more money on developping new sites when I can get my money back in a month or two...

andrej_NDC · 03-11-2005, 04:37 PM

why do people buy a house when they can build one? Of course, you can sell it, but most of the ppl who cand afford it are only lurkers here and dont post.

Shooting_Manic · 03-11-2005, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by fünkmaster

... if you could do that, I'd give you half a mil and make you a 50% partner.

I could do it for less then that. I could do it on $250k and would need two years. Without question.

squizzel · 03-11-2005, 04:50 PM

IMO its not viable but what the fuck do i know, i only make 1k a month hah.

flashfire · 03-11-2005, 04:51 PM

I would be weary, if a program was doing that well why would it be sold

andrej_NDC · 03-11-2005, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by flashfire

I would be weary, if a program was doing that well why would it be sold

do you think everything that is sold in any biz is bad? thats the only reason for selling something?

elric · 03-11-2005, 05:05 PM

There are people who would pay that much.

But the problem would be verifying traffic and income.

$100k net? Says who? Are there audited financials?

and what about rebills? How would you verify the stats for past are real?

and the traffic? Where is it coming from? Will it go away if Google changes their algorithm? And so on...

andrej_NDC · 03-11-2005, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by elric

$100k net? Says who? Are there audited financials?

and what about rebills? How would you verify the stats for past are real?

says the processor stats

gxer · 03-11-2005, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by thinkx

sadfully it is, my best buddy deals with these ppl workin at the biggest private bank in the world, talked to him bout this many times, im not talkin bout joe average who has 1 mln, but ppl who burn 5 mln a month on russian private banks

absolutely right , these people with few mln to spent will never invest in adult
just because they don't know this biz at all - that's the main reason.

elric · 03-11-2005, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

says the processor stats

You would trust the processor stats?

How many IBILL threads are on the front page right now?

azguy · 03-11-2005, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Young

How would you know? Your Adultie.com has been in the works since you joined the site

the anticipation is killing us.

I've done enough business transactions to know a little about value. Ain't worth it.

As for Adultie, well, it's a work in progress. I put it on hold for a few weeks so we can concentrate on a brilliant mainstream opportunity we have going, a true search-related killer app, but has nothing to do with adult.

03-11-2005, 03:30 PM	#1
MetaformX Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 6,704	So if someone wanted to sell an Affiliate program for $2.5 million If a company wanted to sell their adult Affiliate program and lets say that program was generating $100,000 per month in net profits, and their asking price was 2.5 Million, which translates to 24 months net profit, which I think would be fair considering the assets needed to run a program that is generating $100,000 per month in NET PROFITS... Would there be any buyers out there? The reason I ask is I have seen several programs just close down instead of the owners even attempting to sell the program, which begs the question, would there be any buyers out there with that kind of financial backing that would invest 1 or 2 million dollars to purchase a thriving program? Or build their own from scratch? __________________

03-11-2005, 03:41 PM	#2
DutchTeenCash I like Dutch Girls Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: dutchteencash.com Posts: 21,684	im sure there are ppl here who could cough up 2 mln but most of them run big programs themselves and wouldnt be interested imho... then again there are lotsa ppl out there who burn 5mln a year just on high risk ventures so theres a market for sure... from a webmaster pov : im proud to be at this point with this nett profit with dutchteencash and wouldnt wanna buy a program for whatever money __________________ ICQ 16 91 547 - SKYPE dutchteencash bob AT dutchteencash DOT com ... did you see our newest Sweet Natural Girl Priscilla (18)?

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Furious_Female Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Upstate, New York Posts: 8,187	It would be a worthy investment for someone in that financial league; providing all the documentation is there and the sites/memberships/affiliates have the same promising future. __________________ Skype: j3nn.com ICQ 160370494 My current favorite high-converting sponsor: CrakRevenue

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Funny thing is, I have matched up buyers and sellers of programs for a little while now. People do buy them! __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

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azguy Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 5,167	No way in hell. Only a sucker would pay this much

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teksonline So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At My Desk Posts: 2,904	A lot of red tape to consider other than the affiliate program itself, from the sites, content rights, technology side.. If a company had 2.5 million to spend then they really wouldnt need to buy another persons established system, I wouldnt think.

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Shooting_Manic Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NY Posts: 1,740	Interesting. However, $400,000 can build a very strong set of sites and all the trafffic they would need to build it into a 100k net a month program in a years time. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	I would rather spend the $2.5M on building a new affiliate program. __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,422	No... the return time for the investment is to great since the sites may be crap in that length of time. Also, no one leaves a $100,000 profit per month program... they leave programs with 5,000 a month in profit and $250,000 gross... or worse...

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DutchTeenCash I like Dutch Girls Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: dutchteencash.com Posts: 21,684	dont wanna be an ahole but i just clicked sites and got this Warning: Smarty error: unable to read resource: "sites.tpl" in /usr/home/metaformx/nats/Smarty-2.6.7/libs/Smarty.class.php on line 1088 and on signup Warning: Smarty error: unable to read resource: "signup_adv0.tpl" in /usr/home/metaformx/nats/Smarty-2.6.7/libs/Smarty.class.php on line 1088 Warning: Smarty error: unable to read resource: "signup_adv0.tpl" in /usr/home/metaformx/nats/Smarty-2.6.7/libs/Smarty.class.php on line 1088 __________________ ICQ 16 91 547 - SKYPE dutchteencash bob AT dutchteencash DOT com ... did you see our newest Sweet Natural Girl Priscilla (18)?

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MetaformX Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 6,704	Didn't Marc De sell a portion of ARS to another company a few years ago? Many assume he is still the main owner of ARS, but I was under the impression that his role is more in the area of a director. If that is correct, I wonder how much ARS was sold for? I could be totally off though, maybe someone can correct me. __________________

03-11-2005, 04:17 PM	#30
Alex So Fucking Banned (YEA!!) Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 10,963	No one would buy a program But you would be able to sell the paysites, with active members and rebills __________________ Care about me? Who? Me! Who?

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robfantasy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Medellin, Colombia Posts: 6,445	how bout hire a headhunter to coax super affiliates into pushing your program. __________________ Looking to speak w/ high volume nutra CPA affiliates or networks... msg me

03-11-2005, 04:19 PM	#33
mrthumbs salad tossing sig guy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: mrthumbs*gmail.com Posts: 11,702	2 years is waay to much in this business (processing!!) maybbe 6 monthsd and you could find a large program to buy you out.

03-11-2005, 04:20 PM	#34
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	For $2 million online, you can double your money at least every 12 months. Why waste the money buying an affiliate program that will make you less than starting up a new one?

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punker barbie Meow Meow!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 10,228	Shir anyone can try sell anything, but it might be a tough job finding a buyer. best bet is to do payments or something. __________________ Chaturbate Affiliate Support: [email protected]

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sonofsam Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 18,638	this is a great thread learned a lot __________________ I like turtles.

03-11-2005, 04:31 PM	#39
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	The price isn't bad from a multiples standpoint. BUT, in this industry, I wouldn't consider doing it. There are too many things that could go wrong in two years to create a loss instead of a break even.

03-11-2005, 04:37 PM	#41
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	why do people buy a house when they can build one? Of course, you can sell it, but most of the ppl who cand afford it are only lurkers here and dont post.

03-11-2005, 04:50 PM	#43
squizzel So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 900	IMO its not viable but what the fuck do i know, i only make 1k a month hah.

03-11-2005, 04:51 PM	#44
flashfire ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 13,098	I would be weary, if a program was doing that well why would it be sold

03-11-2005, 05:05 PM	#46
elric Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 296	There are people who would pay that much. But the problem would be verifying traffic and income. $100k net? Says who? Are there audited financials? and what about rebills? How would you verify the stats for past are real? and the traffic? Where is it coming from? Will it go away if Google changes their algorithm? And so on...