See that Inteca stuff above. There are loads of EU webmasters who have not been paid. And... a separate company with anyone associated with iBill is ... well... maybe a legal entity, but going to be contaminted to hell and back with "associations" :-)

Just to let you know how bad the shit is, the people that were let go today weren't even given any severence. They will get paid through tomorrow and that is it.

People who were issued employment contracts ( an effort to keep people from leaving and taking clients with them) with guaranteed severence packages are also receiving nothing. Like every other agreement and contract these scumbags issue, they are not honoring it and never had any intention of doing so.

If you are still sending them any business at all, you are enabling iBill to continue to perpetrate fraud. STOP!!!!

are there any sponsors still using them? If so, I would love to have a list of people who I would NOT send my traffic to.. if they fucked over the US people then paid the Euro guys or vice versa I wouldn't trust my traffic to a sponsor still willing to use them because the tables can turn on anyone getting paid at any moment

Webby , the reference to the US secured system you were asking about.....is ibills new Gkard secured system where they supposedly dont get there hands on your money and it gets deposited into you account by wire or ACH....there supposed to payout on march 15th for the feb 16th-28th revenue from gkard credit card transactions ONLY !...no checks...no reserves.....so basically for most webmasters it amounts to about $1.95- 39.95 depending on if there obligatory 1 sale in that pay period re-billed or not :1orglaugh

and you believed them?

Can you share that information with us that are owed a lot of money? Or did you tell us already? Thanks.

NOT another $50 dollar check ? WTF?

What about those thousands of rebills they ran through in that same time frame ?

fuck if they didnt... they knew damn well what was going on... f em, i hope they never find a job.. they took food from my kids mouth.. to hell with them all.

Joey3001:

I can understand your feelings. But, the people working at ibill were lied to also. Big time.

Bye bye Ibill.

50 people left using them

I'll start a thread about this, if none has started:


iBill News
Last Updated: Friday 11 March 2005 at 10:17 AM U.S. Eastern Time

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iBill US Update

Dear iBill US Clients,
iBill is excited to announce the launch of gkard Secured, a service of M2 Secure. gkard Secured has been established to create an additional measure of assurance that client funds will be paid to merchants on time.

gkard Secured is part of a series of steps that iBill?s new management is taking to address legitimate concerns in the billing industry and as to iBill specifically.

gkard Secured highlights are:
gkard Secured payments are NOT touched by iBill;
gkard Secured controls settlement and payout files end-to-end for gkard Secured;
gkard Secured is operated by an independent payment services company NOT affiliated with iBill;
gkard Secured uses its own merchant account for gkard Loads, not the iBill merchant account;
Real-time transaction data will remain accessible on iBill CMI;
Secured payouts are available on gkard Secured only;
For more information on gkard Secured, please go to http://www.gkbill.com and access the SECURE PAYMENT tab.

The gkard Secured payout program specifics are listed below:
gkard Secured officially launches with the March 15, 2005 payout.
The March 15 payout will be for all gkard transactions that occurred from February 16, 2005 through February 28, 2005.
All accounts will maintain their current payout cycle with the amounts based upon iBill?s client agreements and the payout information provided to M2 Secure by iBill.
Funds will be sent via wire transfer and ACH only (for your convenience, gkard Secured will use the existing merchant banking information on file at iBill).
Any gkard, online check and web900 transactions PRIOR to February 16, 2005 will be paid out directly from iBill to the clients and will be the sole responsibility of iBill.

For FAQ's on gkard Secured, please go to http://www.ibill.com/support/securedpayoutFAQ.cfm

Please note: If you are currently being paid via ACH or Wire, there is nothing that you will need to do to receive your payout. However, if you are currently being paid via check, you will need to update your account with valid banking information by no later than March 10, 2005. This will ensure that you will get paid on March 15, 2005.

For help on updating your banking information, please log in to the Merchant Info website at http://www.ibill.com/merchantinfo/login/login.cfm, click on Update Banking Information. The Update Banking Help link is located towards the top right section of the banking information screen.

Over the next several weeks, there will be new features and benefits added to the gkard Secured payout program. As iBill and M2 Secure have more updated information regarding these future enhancements, news will be posted.

Thank you.
iBill and M2 Secure

So they did lose their merchant account.

You are completely, 100% wrong. There were maybe a handful of people at iBill that knew what was going on. You have obviously never worked for a decent sized corporation.

Do you really think the grunts on the front lines are involved in the decision making process at a large company? Of the almost 300 people that were there at it's peak, maybe a dozen or so really knew the inner workings. Especially at that level. Those dozen people took the food from their employee's kid's mouths too.

The employees got sold the same bill of goods you did, and they got hurt just like you did.

actually i did. I worked for cdnow.com before and during the whole shut down process. We knew more than we told the customers but we were not allowed.

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well maybe one of them will go on the shooting spree and save us the trouble.

I guess they just forgot about the revshares too..

Well the people at iBill didn't. Everyone there kept being told not to worry, there was a merchant account.