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|  03-07-2005, 03:38 PM | #1 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role:  Join Date: Jul 2001 
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				What would 1 page SE optimization cost?
			 Just a few keywords, metatags and shit...im not trying to get a #1 position...i mean i will get high listed anyway because few people search for this. They just have to find me when typing in about 6 different keywords. | 
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|  03-07-2005, 03:46 PM | #2 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hard Link Trades Always Wanted Icq: 319323350 
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				 | i can help you hit me up...... | 
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|  03-07-2005, 03:47 PM | #3 | 
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				 | People would probably charge more than it's worth to you really. Do you already have good inbound links? If it's just setting up the page to be SE friendly I can do it for ya real cheap. | 
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|  03-07-2005, 04:00 PM | #4 | 
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				 | Iwantchixx, i had you on icq before, cant find you...odd...hit me up 95164758 xxxmasters, thanks but i know iwantchixx so im gonna ask him to help me. | 
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|  03-07-2005, 04:03 PM | #5 | |
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|  03-07-2005, 04:05 PM | #6 | 
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				 | thanks dude | 
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|  03-07-2005, 04:11 PM | #7 | 
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				 | i'll tell ya what it involves for free 1. clean code, preferably tableless and structered using xhtml/css - make sure it validates in every sense. 2. proper use of tags, like h1 / h2 / h3, paragraph, lists. the idea is to use minimal tags, try to keep from using <img src> tags as much as possible (to display images use CSS) 3. be sure your page is targeted with one primary keyword and perhaps 1 to 2 secondary keywords, be sure your kw density is not too low but not too high. 4. be sure to link to it from somewhere within your site with your target kw in the anchor text. 5. get as many relevant backlinks as possible using primarily your target keyword but also instances of your other keyword, alternate the anchor text you use / request. hope that helped. | 
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|  03-07-2005, 04:21 PM | #8 | |
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|  03-07-2005, 04:28 PM | #9 | |
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|  03-07-2005, 04:31 PM | #10 | 
| GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 
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				 | CSS is the way http://www.ch33rs.com/css.html ive been obscessed with web standards and css as of late 
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|  03-07-2005, 04:32 PM | #11 | |
| GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 
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|  03-07-2005, 04:39 PM | #12 | |
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 i also believe it helps with the SERPs, although I dont know how much. | |
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|  03-07-2005, 04:49 PM | #13 | 
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				 | threads like this make me wonder about the skills of some of the "webmasters" here I have said it before and will say it again people that buy gallery spots or who do mailing are not webmasters threads like this really show who the real n00bs are | 
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|  03-07-2005, 04:50 PM | #14 | 
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				 | Hi FletchXXX, Nice design tips site, I had a little wander about the place. Just thought I would mention that some of your pages suffer FOUC syndrome. FOUC stands for Flash of Unstyled Content and occurs ONLY on IE for Windows (V5 and above). Basically all this is, is a momentary flash of unstyled content. It's quite easily fixed by adding one of the following to the <head></head> section of your html: 1. Link element: <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" media="print" href="print.css"> 2. SCRIPT element: <script type="text/javascript"> </script> The second solution is just an empty script tag but both ways seem to kill FOUC syndrome. 
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|  03-07-2005, 04:50 PM | #15 | 
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				 | i didnt design ch33rs in CSS, its a mess ;) 
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|  03-07-2005, 04:51 PM | #16 | 
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				 | i just started using firefox BTW  ;) 
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|  03-07-2005, 05:04 PM | #17 | 
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				 | Hi again Fletch, Should have mentioned the page I spotted FOUC on, sorry about that: http://www.ch33rs.com/design That is where it occurs and looking at your source confirms that it uses CSS and more precisely the @import attribute. This is specifically why and when FOUC occurs. Firefox isn't a bad browser at all; I have it installed on all my PCs ... although I still use IE predominantly. Cheers, 
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|  03-07-2005, 05:04 PM | #18 | 
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				 | Franck, you mean you have no knowledge of html or site building? 
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|  03-07-2005, 05:06 PM | #19 | |
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 i am in the process of cleaning up the older parts, not enough time in the day hehehe... but yes the /design/ directory should be fixed, thanks! 
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|  03-07-2005, 05:08 PM | #20 | 
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				 | If u need more.......  togm(at)hotmail.co.uk Guarantee u top listings in yahoo and google. 
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|  03-07-2005, 06:13 PM | #21 | 
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				 | 1 page will not be enough. | 
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|  03-07-2005, 06:53 PM | #22 | |
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       Nice one Fletch!! 
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|  03-07-2005, 07:00 PM | #23 | |
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 would you rather have mad webmaster skills and make $2k per month, or be good in selling and make $20k per month? 
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|  03-07-2005, 07:05 PM | #24 | 
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				 | Hi, I just thought I would put my 2 cents in here. When using css to design your website it might be able good idea to use 2 seperate styling sheets since IE willl render pages differently than most browsers. Code: <![if !IE]> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" media="print" href="print.css"> <![endif]> <!--[if IE]> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" media="print" href="print.css"> <![endif]--> 
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|  03-07-2005, 07:07 PM | #25 | |
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|  03-07-2005, 07:10 PM | #26 | |
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 Oh i built tons of sites in the last 6 or 7 years... I just never got into the SE thing. I seriously know nothing about it. Guess im a fake webmaster now according to fake nick's theory. Shame on me. | |
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|  03-07-2005, 07:12 PM | #27 | 
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				 | testing sig please ignore or click it ;) | 
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