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Dwreck · 03-05-2005, 10:30 AM

Webmaster's have to hear about your program on average 5 times before they even try it.

We use this as a guideline when we think of advertising and branding.

So you want a webmaster to try your program huh or click on your sig. Well you got a lot of work cut out for you. Insane payouts, kick ass customer service and free gifts help but you have to be aware of how advertising/branding works with adult internet.

1. Let's say a webmaster see's your add on GFYor Weboverdrive that counts as once. He prolly didnt pay much attention to it but saw your add.

2. The webmaster sees you sig on a few boards that will count as 2

3. The webamster is kinda aware of your program and see 's a contest so he plays. Still doesn't join but pokes around a bit. HE is still prolly happy with his current sponser and is afraid of change. That will count as 3.

4. The webmaster see's you in a print advertisement and thinks dude these guys are everywhere. That could be 4.

5. The Webmaster see's you at a trade show or gets word of mouth of your program. That will be 5.

So when the Webmaster doesn't reiceive his check in under 1 minute and has to go to the mail box and it wasnt delivered right to his computer with 4 nakkid girls and is pissed off and wants to try a new sponser. WHo does he think of? hahaha

What do you think?

sickbeatz · 03-05-2005, 10:31 AM

Free money

Dwreck · 03-05-2005, 10:32 AM

What is free money? PArdon me? Did I miss soemthing?

thaifan99 · 03-05-2005, 10:32 AM

Word of mouth works best for me.

beemk · 03-05-2005, 10:34 AM

i only have to hear about it one time, and they have to have good sites. if they dont have site worth promoting i wont promote them, thats the only thing that will get me to sign up

Rochard · 03-05-2005, 10:36 AM

This thread brings up an interesting point. Lightspeed Cash is well known through out the industry for our parties, sponsoring different events, our Jerseys, and the fact that Steve Lightspeed attends nearly every show - and knows nearly everyone in the industry.

Yet I still have people on my ICQ who don't promote us. It's not that they don't like us or don't think they'll do well with us, it's just that there are so many programs out there and affiliates can't push them all.

Antonio · 03-05-2005, 10:43 AM

I only try new programs when someone posts his conv. ratios or stats, and doesn't own the program. I have nothing agaainst sigwhoring or posting your ref codes here and there, but the simple 'hey try this guys cause I say so, here's the link with my ref code' doesn't work for me.....

ADL Colin · 03-05-2005, 10:46 AM

Why 5 and not 3 or 4 or 6? Anything behind the number 5?

JFK · 03-05-2005, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwreck

Webmaster's have to hear about your program on average 5 times before they even try it.

We use this as a guideline when we think of advertising and branding.

So you want a webmaster to try your program huh or click on your sig. Well you got a lot of work cut out for you. Insane payouts, kick ass customer service and free gifts help but you have to be aware of how advertising/branding works with adult internet.

1. Let's say a webmaster see's your add on GFYor Weboverdrive that counts as once. He prolly didnt pay much attention to it but saw your add.

2. The webmaster sees you sig on a few boards that will count as 2

3. The webamster is kinda aware of your program and see 's a contest so he plays. Still doesn't join but pokes around a bit. HE is still prolly happy with his current sponser and is afraid of change. That will count as 3.

4. The webmaster see's you in a print advertisement and thinks dude these guys are everywhere. That could be 4.

5. The Webmaster see's you at a trade show or gets word of mouth of your program. That will be 5.

So when the Webmaster doesn't reiceive his check in under 1 minute and has to go to the mail box and it wasnt delivered right to his computer with 4 nakkid girls and is pissed off and wants to try a new sponser. WHo does he think of? hahaha

What do you think?

#6 Webmaster sees your ad on F.U.B.A.R. and thinks WOW these guys are Cool I should give them a try and then signs up

Rinaldo · 03-05-2005, 10:53 AM

I think you're drunk Derek. LOL

I agree. Although You forgot to mention Meeting someone in person.
I think that if someone meets you in person and they beleive you and have faith that you aren't blowing smoke up their ass then they'll skip steps 1-5 and they'll try your program out.
I know that after meeting you and talking to you as long as I have, that the moment I have an opportunity to send you some traffic I will.

You are one of the few individuals that a lot of people trust and go to for advice with their traffic. Not because you're funny or cure (sexy actually... mmmmmmmmm) but because you are honest.

Dwreck · 03-05-2005, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by thaifan99

Word of mouth works best for me.

That involves attending trade show are knowing other webmasters. I find some webmasters to be very isolateand some are not interested in attending trade shows. What then?

Dwreck · 03-05-2005, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by beemk

i only have to hear about it one time, and they have to have good sites. if they dont have site worth promoting i wont promote them, thats the only thing that will get me to sign up

Ok you heard about us LOL here Beemk......... Let's get you promoting.hahaha

WHat kinda of stuff do you do for real. Tgp'er,MGP' er, gallery submitter, free site guy?

Dwreck · 03-05-2005, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RocHard

This thread brings up an interesting point. Lightspeed Cash is well known through out the industry for our parties, sponsoring different events, our Jerseys, and the fact that Steve Lightspeed attends nearly every show - and knows nearly everyone in the industry.

Yet I still have people on my ICQ who don't promote us. It's not that they don't like us or don't think they'll do well with us, it's just that there are so many programs out there and affiliates can't push them all.

An Interesting point indeed Rochard. Do you feel that you have gotten your money back doing all these events?WHy so manY? Do you guys feel the need to continue doing such things?

Do you find that talking to webmasters that have no intent on promoting lighspeed or bettering the compnay in any way shape or form on icq can be how can i say,,,,, for lack of a better word...........
as waste of time?

Dwreck · 03-05-2005, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio

I only try new programs when someone posts his conv. ratios or stats, and doesn't own the program. I have nothing agaainst sigwhoring or posting your ref codes here and there, but the simple 'hey try this guys cause I say so, here's the link with my ref code' doesn't work for me.....

Antonio i feel that when a webmaster has a program that works then tend to keep it hush hush and don't often post thier stats. I think you may be missing some good chaces IMHO.

Dwreck · 03-05-2005, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Almighty Colin

Why 5 and not 3 or 4 or 6? Anything behind the number 5?

How are you Colin. Do you have a fun time at the YP? I said it's justa guideline.

Manowar · 03-05-2005, 11:16 AM

Nice analysis. Is probably more true for the bigger webmasters than the smaller ones who dont send as many sales

Dwreck · 03-05-2005, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Platinum Rinaldo

I think you're drunk Derek. LOL

I agree. Although You forgot to mention Meeting someone in person.
I think that if someone meets you in person and they beleive you and have faith that you aren't blowing smoke up their ass then they'll skip steps 1-5 and they'll try your program out.
I know that after meeting you and talking to you as long as I have, that the moment I have an opportunity to send you some traffic I will.

You are one of the few individuals that a lot of people trust and go to for advice with their traffic. Not because you're funny or cure (sexy actually... mmmmmmmmm) but because you are honest.

Rini you missed what I meant. I ws talking about branding and the effectiness of avertising. Thanks for your kind words and I agree with what you say that why we put sucha high value on going to trade shows.

I just hit you up in msn let's go out and get off our computers.

Dwreck · 03-05-2005, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Manowar

Nice analysis. Is probably more true for the bigger webmasters than the smaller ones who dont send as many sales

Thanks Manowar! However the bigger webmasters are usually contnet and are hard to change we love the smaller guys. Bring them on!

WiredGuy · 03-05-2005, 11:44 AM

Even 5 times is not enough I would say.
WG

ADL Colin · 03-05-2005, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dwreck

How are you Colin. Do you have a fun time at the YP? I said it's justa guideline.

Hell yeah, bro. Ahhh, k. Gotcha.

In that case more reps is certainly good. Not sure when the diminishing returns show up. YMMV.

BastarD · 03-05-2005, 11:56 AM

You forgot to add 6th think what webmaster needs to give sponsor a try..

6) Webmaster wakes up and looks at the mirror in bathroom and sees sponsor ad instead of head. Than he goes to kitchen, takes some corn flakes and finds sponsor ad at the bottom of pack. He goes to toilet, opens toilet seat and finds webmaster ad. Ok.. maby then he will sign up as affiliate, but, who da fuck would do such a thing as sending traffic to sponsor?! We need to call our wives and hear from them that they ar not longer with us - they left us for a sponsor.. so maby, ok, maby than we will send traffic..

:costumed-

Rui · 03-05-2005, 12:22 PM

I think you should replace the 4) with Word of Mouth, besides that you are dead on IMHO ;)

Dwreck · 03-05-2005, 09:31 PM

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03-05-2005, 10:30 AM	#1
Dwreck Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 7,362	Webmaster's have to hear about your program 5 times before they try it... FACT OR.. Webmaster's have to hear about your program on average 5 times before they even try it. We use this as a guideline when we think of advertising and branding. So you want a webmaster to try your program huh or click on your sig. Well you got a lot of work cut out for you. Insane payouts, kick ass customer service and free gifts help but you have to be aware of how advertising/branding works with adult internet. 1. Let's say a webmaster see's your add on GFYor Weboverdrive that counts as once. He prolly didnt pay much attention to it but saw your add. 2. The webmaster sees you sig on a few boards that will count as 2 3. The webamster is kinda aware of your program and see 's a contest so he plays. Still doesn't join but pokes around a bit. HE is still prolly happy with his current sponser and is afraid of change. That will count as 3. 4. The webmaster see's you in a print advertisement and thinks dude these guys are everywhere. That could be 4. 5. The Webmaster see's you at a trade show or gets word of mouth of your program. That will be 5. So when the Webmaster doesn't reiceive his check in under 1 minute and has to go to the mail box and it wasnt delivered right to his computer with 4 nakkid girls and is pissed off and wants to try a new sponser. WHo does he think of? hahaha What do you think? __________________ Derek Dwreck Smout Program Manager Icq 165976549 Skype derekthomassmout

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Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 74,294	This thread brings up an interesting point. Lightspeed Cash is well known through out the industry for our parties, sponsoring different events, our Jerseys, and the fact that Steve Lightspeed attends nearly every show - and knows nearly everyone in the industry. Yet I still have people on my ICQ who don't promote us. It's not that they don't like us or don't think they'll do well with us, it's just that there are so many programs out there and affiliates can't push them all. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

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Antonio Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Spartaaaaaaaaa Posts: 14,136	I only try new programs when someone posts his conv. ratios or stats, and doesn't own the program. I have nothing agaainst sigwhoring or posting your ref codes here and there, but the simple 'hey try this guys cause I say so, here's the link with my ref code' doesn't work for me.....

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Rinaldo Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 5,086	I think you're drunk Derek. LOL I agree. Although You forgot to mention Meeting someone in person. I think that if someone meets you in person and they beleive you and have faith that you aren't blowing smoke up their ass then they'll skip steps 1-5 and they'll try your program out. I know that after meeting you and talking to you as long as I have, that the moment I have an opportunity to send you some traffic I will. You are one of the few individuals that a lot of people trust and go to for advice with their traffic. Not because you're funny or cure (sexy actually... mmmmmmmmm) but because you are honest.

03-05-2005, 11:16 AM	#16
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	Nice analysis. Is probably more true for the bigger webmasters than the smaller ones who dont send as many sales

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WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,486	Even 5 times is not enough I would say. WG __________________ I play with Google.

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BastarD Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Very close to that Jack Daniels bottle.. Posts: 6,341	You forgot to add 6th think what webmaster needs to give sponsor a try.. 6) Webmaster wakes up and looks at the mirror in bathroom and sees sponsor ad instead of head. Than he goes to kitchen, takes some corn flakes and finds sponsor ad at the bottom of pack. He goes to toilet, opens toilet seat and finds webmaster ad. Ok.. maby then he will sign up as affiliate, but, who da fuck would do such a thing as sending traffic to sponsor?! We need to call our wives and hear from them that they ar not longer with us - they left us for a sponsor.. so maby, ok, maby than we will send traffic.. :costumed- Last edited by BastarD; 03-05-2005 at 11:57 AM..

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Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	I think you should replace the 4) with Word of Mouth, besides that you are dead on IMHO ;)

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