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Alex 03-04-2005 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex
Does that book talk about how to mix in adult webmaster links amongst regulaer adult terms in the search engines... to attract adult webmasters surfing their SERP's and surfers wanting to get in the "biz"...?

#7 AdvertisingSex
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=ash...gle=1&ei=UTF-8


Waste of a good keyword listing

~Ray 03-04-2005 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex
What do you mean not your own funds?

You aer going to provide a service
People will pay you, the funds will now be yours.
SO you still use them to fund the program

Yes, I'm using funds from this service to fund my project. The normal money I make from my matrix will not be touched. If my program fails for some reason. I won't be flat ass broke.

This is like a promotion to raise $40k and finish my program without touching my current income. All of this $$$ goes to the program.

Thanks,
~Ray

~Ray 03-04-2005 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex
Waste of a good keyword listing

All of those NCN links around it are mine. Guess I should have mentioned that.

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=ash...gle=1&ei=UTF-8


~Ray

~Ray 03-04-2005 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bringer
http://66.218.71.225/search/cache?p=...p=1&.intl =us
chapter 3
get page 1 listing and redirect


Come get your diploma.

~Ray

bringer 03-04-2005 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex
Come get your diploma.

~Ray

thats ok, im happy with my current listings

thanks though

AdultNex 03-04-2005 06:52 PM

Yahoo is extremely easy to manipulate for top rankings, but the offer sounds good for someone that doesn't know the SEO ropes.

tungsten 03-04-2005 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JFPdude
I don't see him being desperate to sell his sites. He offered them for sale and nobody wanted to pay what they were worth. Therefore he decided to keep them.

what other option did he have?

PornHero 03-04-2005 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex
Yes, I'm using funds from this service to fund my project. The normal money I make from my matrix will not be touched. If my program fails for some reason. I won't be flat ass broke.

This is like a promotion to raise $40k and finish my program without touching my current income. All of this $$$ goes to the program.

Thanks,
~Ray

This isn't meant to bash you in any way, I have read this thread with interest, but if you are a SEO expert why will losing $40,000 in your webmaster program make you flat ass broke?

And why are you starting a webmaster program if you are a SEO expert? What kind of webmaster program is it. Maybe I am missing something. Sorry for my ignorance.

I wouldn't say I am an SEO expert but the money I make from them is crazy and I am sure I only know 1/10th what you know.

I was actually considering taking a lesson til i read about your financial situation.

My advice is to take your seo knowledge and make $40,000 in the search engines with it. That's only 1333 signups if you earn $30/signup. Its been 3 years, if you are that good, in a few months you will have the $40,000 plus whatever you build in those months on the asset side of your balance sheet. :2 cents:

~Ray 03-04-2005 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PornHero
This isn't meant to bash you in any way, I have read this thread with interest, but if you are a SEO expert why will losing $40,000 in your webmaster program make you flat ass broke?

And why are you starting a webmaster program if you are a SEO expert? What kind of webmaster program is it. Maybe I am missing something. Sorry for my ignorance.

I wouldn't say I am an SEO expert but the money I make from them is crazy and I am sure I only know 1/10th what you know.

I was actually considering taking a lesson til i read about your financial situation.

My advice is to take your seo knowledge and make $40,000 in the search engines with it. That's only 1333 signups if you earn $30/signup. Its been 3 years, if you are that good, in a few months you will have the $40,000 plus whatever you build in those months on the asset side of your balance sheet. :2 cents:


You are right. I misquoted the broke thing.I meant, If I lose the $40k on the program... I'll still have my matrix money savings account. I don't want to put a dent in that if I can raise the money quickly offering seo advice that anyone can do. This is a great way for me to network too, so when my program opens, many of the webmasters I meet and have met, might actually use their seo knowledge to push my program.

~Ray

PornHero 03-04-2005 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex
You are right. I misquoted the broke thing.I meant, If I lose the $40k on the program... I'll still have my matrix money savings account. I don't want to put a dent in that if I can raise the money quickly offering seo advice that anyone can do. This is a great way for me to network too, so when my program opens, many of the webmasters I meet and have met, might actually use their seo knowledge to push my program.

~Ray

Ok this is getting interesting, I think I am figuring something out here:

If you have the time please read my thoughts I posted on surfer vs. affiliate traffic in another thread today:

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Originally Posted by PornHero

What I think you are talking about here is how to best LEVERAGE your time.

Do you spend time getting your own surfer traffic or affiliate traffic?

I think it would be easier to get surfer traffic in this day and age than affiliates to promote your program. The # of webmasters out there are FINITE and their time LIMITED. Even if an adultwebmaster likes what he/she sees in your program it takes alot for them to take the time to sign up, add your links to their sites and push traffic to you. You have alot of big companies with deep pockets and new fresh sites/content coming out all the time. Those are the ones that are always at the top of my list.

Surfer traffic for all intents and purposes is INFINITE.
There are millions of people around the world searching for porn everyday. But the key is they are not all searching for the same thing! The niches/types/fetishes of these millions of surfers are virtually UNLIMITED when compared to the number of webmasters trying to serve them. In fact we dont have enough adultwebmasters to serve all the niches yet. lol, i cant beleive i just wrote that but its true. :1orglaugh

For example... have you heard of of the porn niche Dogging? Neither did I until this morning. Here's a hint, it doesnt refer to bestiality at all.

Type in "dogging porn" into google (with the quotes), its a joke the little amount of results that come up.

But Dogging is starting to gain a foothold and if it continues I know its just a matter of time (may be a year or two but they're coming) before the first big sponsor like TopBucks or NastyDollars comes out with a Dogging site. And I'll be all over that mofo when they do :pimp

Now if you have an affiliate program how are you going to captialize on all this Dogging traffic? If you are a 1 to 3-man sponsor operation please let me know how you'd do it in a profitable, timely, aggressive manner that competes with the big boys.

But if you were concentrating on surfer traffic there are a myriad of ways to start getting dogging traffic almost overnight.

So to get back to my point, your average affiliate program is dealing with a finite amount of adultwebmasters, a finite niche, and competing with some pretty big heavyhitters.

Whereas a webmaster that is dealing with surfer traffic has 100's of millions of potentional surfers, Unlimited niches and a wide assortment of affiliate programs to choose from. And let me tell you, you dont have to worry about competing with the finite amount of adult webmasters, there is plenty of money to be made in surfer traffic if you know what you are doing.

Now the question of where to the send the surfers is a good one. I must admit from my firsthand experience that certain free/with creditcard sponsors that pay you a nice chunk of change for a free signup are extremely profitable. And I have also experienced some great rebills on recurring sales. Either way, I always preach you should always diversify your assets, never have ALL your eggs in one basket, whether thats servers, domains, sponsors, or pay types (pps, recurring).

Sorry for the long ass post, I hope it makes sense to some of you, not everyone will get it, this is Advanced Leverage Management 301. :thumbsup

So my question to you still remains, since you are so good at SEO, and we all agree that huge money can be made in it, why do you want to open a webmaster program so badly. Wouldn't it be more profitable in the long run to work the search engines yourself?

Please let me know where my logic is off.

Thanks :)

beemk 03-04-2005 07:26 PM

50 ripoff seo courses

beemk 03-04-2005 07:28 PM

something smells fishy, and its not shoehorns sister this time

Shoehorn! 03-04-2005 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by beemk
something smells fishy, and its not shoehorns sister this time

Thats about as funny as when your mom puked while giving me head.

~Ray 03-04-2005 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornHero
Ok this is getting interesting, I think I am figuring something out here:

If you have the time please read my thoughts I posted on surfer vs. affiliate traffic in another thread today:



So my question to you still remains, since you are so good at SEO, and we all agree that huge money can be made in it, why do you want to open a webmaster program so badly. Wouldn't it be more profitable in the long run to work the search engines yourself?

Please let me know where my logic is off.

Thanks :)

I want to send traffic to my own program. I want all of the rebill $$$. I don't want to get shaved, nor do I wish to continue thinking that I am getting shaved. My webmaster program will address that by offering 20 niche specific sites.. to capitalize on most of the popular niches. I will create a whole new matrix just to send to my program with no ref links. I have always felt I'm missing out on the recurring $$$.

I'll never give up the search engines.


~Ray

SureFire 03-04-2005 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultNex
Yahoo is extremely easy to manipulate for top rankings, but the offer sounds good for someone that doesn't know the SEO ropes.

Agreed with Yahoo, I would like to see some google examples for people considering signing up. From my experience with SEO, for 1,000 dollars shared consultation with 40 others and a two week follow up just seems expensive and counterproductive.

I find it hard to trust anyone who says invest in your business by learning with me, and I don?t invest in my ventures to make money :upsidedow

~Ray 03-04-2005 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SureFire
Agreed with Yahoo, I would like to see some google examples for people considering signing up. From my experience with SEO, for 1,000 dollars shared consultation with 40 others and a two week follow up just seems expensive and counterproductive.

I find it hard to trust anyone who says invest in your business by learning with me, and I don?t invest in my ventures to make money :upsidedow

You are always welcome to test me for free...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=439456


~Ray

~Ray 03-04-2005 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk
something smells fishy, and its not shoehorns sister this time

You too, are always welcome to test me for free...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=439456

we can do the seo course next month... no problem.

~Ray

SureFire 03-04-2005 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex
You are always welcome to test me for free...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=439456


~Ray

Thanks for the offer and I love yahoo traffic. I am no SEO expert, yet with yahoo I do fine on my own, so can you give any examples with Goggle's traffic? :)

Spunky 03-04-2005 07:56 PM

Intresting read :thumbsup

PornHero 03-04-2005 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex
You too, are always welcome to test me for free...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=439456

we can do the seo course next month... no problem.

~Ray

I'll give you $1000 for 2 hours face-to-face time (1 on 1) + the follow up. I'll flyout to anywhere you are in North America.

Whatever I learn better be worth it or else people will be postin':
"Whatever happened to AdvertisingSex?" :1orglaugh

I understand if you can't publicly accept this offer. If you like, post your decline here then email me your acceptance.

webmaster at pornhero dot com

:thumbsup

NinjaSteve 03-04-2005 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JSA Matt
I'm giving 4 hour SEO seminars with my IRC bot for only $1,000, hit me up for more information! Paypal only!

paypal sent, I'm already making money, wow!

~Ray 03-04-2005 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornHero
I'll give you $1000 for 2 hours face-to-face time (1 on 1) + the follow up. I'll flyout to anywhere you are in North America.

Whatever I learn better be worth it or else people will be postin':
"Whatever happened to AdvertisingSex?" :1orglaugh

I understand if you can't publicly accept this offer. If you like, post your decline here then email me your acceptance.

webmaster at pornhero dot com

:thumbsup

You can learn what I teach you in the comfort of your own home/office. Try me for a month... we can go from there.

No one said we had to do the seminar anytime this month... next month is fine if you are happy with your results.

That seems fair.

~Ray

baddog 03-04-2005 10:09 PM

and it is free - to be honest, with only 200k results, on Yahoo . . . not that impressive

~Ray 03-04-2005 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog
and it is free - to be honest, with only 200k results, on Yahoo . . . not that impressive


Thanks for the bump.. I have to be honest though.. none of the seo's I know have anything good to say about AdultSEM.com



~Ray

baddog 03-04-2005 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex
Thanks for the bump.. I have to be honest though.. none of the seo's I know have anything good to say about AdultSEM.com



~Ray

Of course not. We give away for free, info they are trying to sell.

~Ray 03-04-2005 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog
Of course not. We give away for free, info they are trying to sell.

Sorry, I didn't know that was your program. I thought you were better than a thread jacker. My bad.

~Ray

baddog 03-04-2005 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex
Sorry, I didn't know that was your program. I thought you were better than a thread jacker. My bad.

~Ray


Well, if we had not been jacked around so much by your "partner" I probably wouldn't have even opened the thread

~Ray 03-04-2005 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog
Well, if we had not been jacked around so much by your "partner" I probably wouldn't have even opened the thread

Ok. I believe you. I knew you were better than that.

~Ray

onlymovies 03-04-2005 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex
I do not want to spend my money to finish the program. I want to fund it by offering service.

It's true that you're not supposed to invest your own money in a business.

~Ray


Yes, it's true...when you have no faith in the outcome of the business..
or you simply don't have the cash.

~Ray 03-04-2005 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by onlymovies
Yes, it's true...when you have no faith in the outcome of the business..
or you simply don't have the cash.

I don't want to argue with you,,,but, you are wrong. Ask any business professor. He will tell you the same thing. I bet you won't though. You seem like the type of person who is never wrong.

~Ray

d00t 03-04-2005 10:28 PM

you need 50k to fund a new project so you are selling the "secrets" to SEO?
If you made real money on search engines you

a) would never tell anyone unless u were oober rich
b) would have 50k

sounds fishy.

~Ray 03-04-2005 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d00t
you need 50k to fund a new project so you are selling the "secrets" to SEO?
If you made real money on search engines you

a) would never tell anyone unless u were oober rich
b) would have 50k

sounds fishy.

You too, are always welcome to test me for free...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=439456

we can do the seo course next month... no problem.

~Ray

d00t 03-04-2005 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex
You too, are always welcome to test me for free...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=439456

we can do the seo course next month... no problem.

~Ray

where did i go wrong then? why do this?

~Ray 03-04-2005 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d00t
where did i go wrong then? why do this?

teaching 40 webmasters about seo and using the $$$ to open my webmaster program is worth it to me. It's only 40 webmasters and I won't have to spend any of my current income on the program.

~Ray

onlymovies 03-04-2005 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex
I don't want to argue with you,,,but, you are wrong. Ask any business professor. He will tell you the same thing. I bet you won't though. You seem like the type of person who is never wrong.

~Ray

Wasn't a personal attack Ray. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

But it's funny you mentioned business professors. There's a reason the majority of them are teaching and not millionaires. Keyword, majority.

And you're right..my business professor did tell me the same thing. And if i had listened to him, i would not be where i am now. I don't believe he was wrong, he was teaching it by the book..and it just wasn't my way of doing things. I didn't want to wait till all the stars and moons were all perfectly aligned before getting something off the ground, ex. your three years.
But to each their own.

~Ray 03-04-2005 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by onlymovies
Wasn't a personal attack Ray. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

But it's funny you mentioned business professors. There's a reason the majority of them are teaching and not millionaires. Keyword, majority.

And you're right..my business professor did tell me the same thing. And if i had listened to him, i would not be where i am now. I don't believe he was wrong, he was just teaching by the book..and it just wasn't my way of doing things. I didn't want to wait till all the stars and moons were all perfectly aligned before getting something off the ground, ex. your three years.
But to each their own.

I'm not mad... just tired.. got up too early.

:)

~Ray

brutus 03-04-2005 10:51 PM

<meta Name="google" Secrettag119911="sex, Free Sex, Free Sex Vids"

~Ray 03-04-2005 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by brutus
<meta Name="google" Secrettag119911="sex, Free Sex, Free Sex Vids"


that tag expired in 1999. show your current one.

:)
~Ray

Crypt 03-04-2005 10:53 PM

I will wait for the movie, thanks

~Ray 03-04-2005 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crypt
I will wait for the movie, thanks

You too, are always welcome to test me for free...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=439456

we can do the seo course next month... no problem.

~Ray


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