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Old 02-28-2005, 02:22 PM   #1
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Sponsors that teach members to clear cookies before signup

I saw it in a forum in the members section. The admin was telling the members how the affiliate system and tracking works. Also telling members who signed up via an affiliates link to cancel and resignup to stop the rebills.

How does this make you feel?
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Old 02-28-2005, 02:23 PM   #2
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Post proof and the sponsor name

thats fucking dispicable.
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Old 02-28-2005, 02:25 PM   #3
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I remember that being on here before. There was a big thread about it. They had a terrible affiliate program to begin with. I doubt they had many affiliates. The name of the program escapes me, but it was an amateur site I believe.
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Old 02-28-2005, 02:25 PM   #4
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let me guess, it was a single girl site right? I know who you are speaking of and its really old news
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Old 02-28-2005, 02:27 PM   #5
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Wut ? Those guys are dumpb and probably out of business !
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Old 02-28-2005, 02:31 PM   #6
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who is it?
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Old 02-28-2005, 02:32 PM   #7
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lol, why not just have the affiliate system do it automatically? set cookies to expire within 3 seconds!
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Old 02-28-2005, 02:41 PM   #8
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lol, why not just have the affiliate system do it automatically? set cookies to expire within 3 seconds!
ya that would probably be the easier method to screw over affiliates lol
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Old 02-28-2005, 02:43 PM   #9
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don't give them any ideas lol
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Old 02-28-2005, 02:44 PM   #10
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lol, why not just have the affiliate system do it automatically? set cookies to expire within 3 seconds!
my secret is out!!!!!!1howdareyou
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Old 02-28-2005, 02:46 PM   #11
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I saw it in a forum in the members section.
If they are members, isn't it too late to tell them inside the member section?
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Old 02-28-2005, 02:49 PM   #12
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they cans till be told to cancel then resign up.
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Old 02-28-2005, 02:54 PM   #13
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they cans till be told to cancel then resign up.
1 signup - then 1 refund... 2 signups - 2 refunds...and so on...
I think most affiliates would drop the program. Not good strategy
Besides, what would the members think of someone who in public tell people to join scam?

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Old 02-28-2005, 02:57 PM   #14
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Old 02-28-2005, 03:16 PM   #15
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People never cease to amaze me with their stupidity. Telling members how to screw affiliates - sounds like a cozy, safe place to be a member and have my credit card info at.
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Old 02-28-2005, 03:19 PM   #16
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If they are members, isn't it too late to tell them inside the member section?
You should have seen the members' posts in the forum. They were OUTRAGED that all the money they spent on the membership fees was not going entirely to the owner of the site. They were more than willing to cancel, then clear cookies and sign up again.

It was really pathetic.

The owner of the site led them to believe that her affiliates where somehow robbing her of her living.

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Old 02-28-2005, 03:20 PM   #17
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if you promote a cookie-based tracking system in the first place you are getting robbed blind. tracking should be hard-coded in this day and age and cookie and ip methods for tracking are as inaccurate as you can get. sure cookies are useful for additional tracking but not for tracking your sales/bottom line.
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Old 02-28-2005, 03:20 PM   #18
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was the site called xxxxx winter by any change?
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Old 02-28-2005, 03:22 PM   #19
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You should have seen the members' posts in the forum. They were OUTRAGED that all the money they spent on the membership fees was not going entirely to the owner of the site. They were more than willing to cancel, then clear cookies and sign up again.

It was really pathetic.

The owner of the site led them to believe that her affiliates where somehow robbing her of her living.

Still postulations. URL?
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Old 02-28-2005, 03:22 PM   #20
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If I see that I make shit money from their site, i'll just stop sending traffic.
Simple as that.
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Old 02-28-2005, 03:24 PM   #21
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Pathetic.
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Old 02-28-2005, 03:24 PM   #22
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1 signup - then 1 refund... 2 signups - 2 refunds...and so on...
I think most affiliates would drop the program. Not good strategy
Besides, what would the members think of someone who in public tell people to join scam?
not sure if they will know that it's spam?
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Old 02-28-2005, 03:27 PM   #23
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You should have seen the members' posts in the forum. They were OUTRAGED that all the money they spent on the membership fees was not going entirely to the owner of the site. They were more than willing to cancel, then clear cookies and sign up again.

It was really pathetic.

The owner of the site led them to believe that her affiliates where somehow robbing her of her living.

I remember that.... don't know her personally but it went to show that so many models are clueless when it comes to the business end of things. So sad


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Old 02-28-2005, 03:27 PM   #24
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was the site called xxxxx winter by any change?
winters, actually


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Old 02-28-2005, 03:29 PM   #25
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If I could remember it, I would post it. Trust me, I doubt anyone here promotes it. For one thing, I had never even heard of it before the original thread was posted, and second, they had the most outrageous TOS I'd ever seen, they were basically trying to scare affiliates away before they even signed up.

If anyone can find the thread post it.

edit: ya I think it was that winters site.
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Old 02-28-2005, 03:29 PM   #26
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I remember that thread. The owner/talent was crying poor and all the sheep fell in line to back her up enraged at how the affiliates stole from her.

That was a long time ago though.
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Old 02-28-2005, 04:01 PM   #27
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Fake drama? Where's the link?
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Old 02-28-2005, 05:03 PM   #28
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Old 02-28-2005, 05:09 PM   #30
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I remember that drama. If I remember correct, she only paid 50-60% on signup and nothing on rebills. Way to go girl!
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Old 02-28-2005, 05:13 PM   #31
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This one?
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Old 02-28-2005, 05:41 PM   #33
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Old 02-28-2005, 05:46 PM   #34
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Sounds like she needs to go to PPS
She already is. $8.80 - $15 per signup
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Old 02-28-2005, 05:47 PM   #35
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this is an old trick that was on a Nikki Nova site a while back
funny how much crap you can forget about
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Old 02-28-2005, 05:52 PM   #36
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I remember that drama. If I remember correct, she only paid 50-60% on signup and nothing on rebills. Way to go girl!
If she did not pay rebills why did she care? And why would we care that she was going to stiff us on them if she was upfront?
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Old 02-28-2005, 05:56 PM   #37
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If she did not pay rebills why did she care? And why would we care that she was going to stiff us on them if she was upfront?
I don't remember the exact thing, but it's in the thread that's posted couple of posts up. But I think it was that she was bitching and whining that affiliates wanted too big piece of the pie.
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and that she was teaching surfers to always type in the domain instead of clicking on a ref link and turn of cookies so she would get 100%. It was something along those lines
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haha i know someone who may have wrote very very bad things to her in her feedback form box lol
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Old 02-28-2005, 06:06 PM   #40
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I'm promoting them, and its my absolute #1 converting program. 150$ signups and not quite few either
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abbywinters is a perfect example of a good paysite run by bad people. I was researching them a bit a few weeks back to see if they were worth promoting. HELL NO.

Now with this cookie bullshit? Holy fuck.
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Old 02-28-2005, 06:30 PM   #42
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That's fucking stupid.
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Old 02-28-2005, 07:22 PM   #43
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I'm promoting them, and its my absolute #1 converting program. 150$ signups and not quite few either

It's too bad you can't collect rebills on them.

Do you mean $150 in signups, or 150 signups?
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That's not the one that I remember The last name was Winters but it wasn't abby ....


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