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|  02-28-2005, 02:22 PM | #1 | 
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				Sponsors that teach members to clear cookies before signup
			 I saw it in a forum in the members section. The admin was telling the members how the affiliate system and tracking works. Also telling members who signed up via an affiliates link to cancel and resignup to stop the rebills.  How does this make you feel? | 
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|  02-28-2005, 02:23 PM | #2 | 
| jellyfish     Join Date: Dec 2003 
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				 | Post proof and the sponsor name thats fucking dispicable. | 
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|  02-28-2005, 02:25 PM | #3 | 
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				 | I remember that being on here before. There was a big thread about it. They had a terrible affiliate program to begin with. I doubt they had many affiliates. The name of the program escapes me, but it was an amateur site I believe. | 
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|  02-28-2005, 02:25 PM | #4 | 
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				 | let me guess, it was a single girl site right? I know who you are speaking of and its really old news | 
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|  02-28-2005, 02:27 PM | #5 | 
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				 | Wut ? Those guys are dumpb and probably out of business ! 
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|  02-28-2005, 02:31 PM | #6 | 
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				 | who is it? | 
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|  02-28-2005, 02:32 PM | #7 | 
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				 | lol, why not just have the affiliate system do it automatically? set cookies to expire within 3 seconds! | 
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|  02-28-2005, 02:41 PM | #8 | |
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|  02-28-2005, 02:43 PM | #9 | 
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				 | don't give them any ideas lol | 
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|  02-28-2005, 02:44 PM | #10 | |
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|  02-28-2005, 02:46 PM | #11 | |
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|  02-28-2005, 02:49 PM | #12 | 
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				 | they cans till be told to cancel then resign up. | 
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|  02-28-2005, 02:54 PM | #13 | |
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 I think most affiliates would drop the program. Not good strategy  Besides, what would the members think of someone who in public tell people to join scam? | |
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|  02-28-2005, 02:57 PM | #14 | 
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|  02-28-2005, 03:16 PM | #15 | 
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				 | People never cease to amaze me with their stupidity.  Telling members how to screw affiliates - sounds like a cozy, safe place to be a member and have my credit card info at. 
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|  02-28-2005, 03:19 PM | #16 | |
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 It was really pathetic. The owner of the site led them to believe that her affiliates where somehow robbing her of her living.  | |
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|  02-28-2005, 03:20 PM | #17 | 
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				 | if you promote a cookie-based tracking system in the first place you are getting robbed blind.  tracking should be hard-coded in this day and age and cookie and ip methods for tracking are as inaccurate as you can get.  sure cookies are useful for additional tracking but not for tracking your sales/bottom line. 
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|  02-28-2005, 03:20 PM | #18 | 
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				 | was the site called xxxxx winter by any change? 
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|  02-28-2005, 03:22 PM | #19 | |
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|  02-28-2005, 03:22 PM | #20 | 
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				 | If I see that I make shit money from their site, i'll just stop sending traffic. Simple as that. | 
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|  02-28-2005, 03:24 PM | #21 | 
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				 | Pathetic. Post URL Not all of us have been around that long. 
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|  02-28-2005, 03:24 PM | #22 | |
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|  02-28-2005, 03:27 PM | #23 | |
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|  02-28-2005, 03:27 PM | #24 | |
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|  02-28-2005, 03:29 PM | #25 | 
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				 | If I could remember it, I would post it. Trust me, I doubt anyone here promotes it. For one thing, I had never even heard of it before the original thread was posted, and second, they had the most outrageous TOS I'd ever seen, they were basically trying to scare affiliates away before they even signed up. If anyone can find the thread post it. edit: ya I think it was that winters site. | 
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|  02-28-2005, 03:29 PM | #26 | 
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				 | I remember that thread. The owner/talent was crying poor and all the sheep fell in line to back her up enraged at how the affiliates stole from her.  That was a long time ago though. 
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|  02-28-2005, 04:01 PM | #27 | 
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				 | Fake drama? Where's the link? 
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|  02-28-2005, 05:03 PM | #28 | 
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				 | The site is http://www.abbywinters.com/ | 
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|  02-28-2005, 05:05 PM | #29 | 
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				 | Pure bastiches!! 
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|  02-28-2005, 05:09 PM | #30 | 
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				 | I remember that drama. If I remember correct, she only paid 50-60% on signup and nothing on rebills. Way to go girl! | 
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|  02-28-2005, 05:13 PM | #31 | 
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|  02-28-2005, 05:14 PM | #32 | 
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|  02-28-2005, 05:41 PM | #33 | |
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|  02-28-2005, 05:46 PM | #34 | |
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|  02-28-2005, 05:47 PM | #35 | 
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				 | this is an old trick that was on a Nikki Nova site a while back funny how much crap you can forget about | 
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|  02-28-2005, 05:52 PM | #36 | |
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|  02-28-2005, 05:56 PM | #37 | |
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|  02-28-2005, 05:57 PM | #38 | 
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				 | and that she was teaching surfers to always type in the domain instead of clicking on a ref link and turn of cookies so she would get 100%. It was something along those lines   | 
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|  02-28-2005, 05:59 PM | #39 | 
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				 | haha i know someone who may have wrote very very bad things to her in her feedback form box lol 
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|  02-28-2005, 06:06 PM | #40 | 
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				 | I'm promoting them, and its my absolute #1 converting program. 150$ signups and not quite few either    | 
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|  02-28-2005, 06:13 PM | #41 | 
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				 | abbywinters is a perfect example of a good paysite run by bad people. I was researching them a bit a few weeks back to see if they were worth promoting. HELL NO. Now with this cookie bullshit? Holy fuck. | 
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|  02-28-2005, 06:30 PM | #42 | 
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				 | That's fucking stupid. 
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|  02-28-2005, 07:22 PM | #43 | |
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 It's too bad you can't collect rebills on them. Do you mean $150 in signups, or 150 signups? | |
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|  02-28-2005, 07:39 PM | #44 | |
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 That's not the one that I remember  The last name was Winters but it wasn't abby .... Ivy | |
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