Affiliates point of view... Paycom vs CCBill - GoFuckYourself.com

sonofsam · 02-27-2005, 07:50 PM

in a dillemma....

can either go with paycom... but wait like 3 weeks to get a site up.. with incorporation package... getting a tax id etc....

or can partner up and get a subaccount off of someones ccbill account and give them 10%.....

what to do... what to do.....

BigWebRev · 02-27-2005, 08:00 PM

3 weeks to get set-up................that's one hell of a wait

get your own MA.

SureFire · 02-27-2005, 08:01 PM

wait the weeks

iwantchixx · 02-27-2005, 09:13 PM

wait it out. It's worth it because you'll make more money in the long run.

Zprogramz · 02-27-2005, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigWebRev

3 weeks to get set-up................that's one hell of a wait

get your own MA.

For sure - give Karen over at Netbilling a call.

sonofsam · 02-27-2005, 09:25 PM

but then how much will the software and affiliate shit run me ?

xenigo · 02-27-2005, 09:27 PM

Paycom setup didn't take that long for me. I think I submitted my contract a week and a half ago. I already had the TaxID number though. Should be ready for processing tomorrow, not including VISA approval which they said could take another couple days.

StuartD · 02-27-2005, 09:29 PM

hahaha... I love the 'get a merchant account' responses... like just anyone has the 10's of thousands to just throw around for that kind of stuff right from the get go.

Kard63 · 02-27-2005, 09:30 PM

Whats an MA ?

Doesnt CCBill handle yoru entire user database for you ? 13-14% is killer though.

sonofsam · 02-27-2005, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

hahaha... I love the 'get a merchant account' responses... like just anyone has the 10's of thousands to just throw around for that kind of stuff right from the get go.

10s of thousands??? hahahahah okay thats not even an option for me....

okay so back to paycom...

so is this fine enough (i'm from canada)

http://www.thedelawarecompany.com/products/-/3

or do i also need this

http://www.thedelawarecompany.com/products/-/12

to sign up with paycom...

sonofsam · 02-27-2005, 09:48 PM

bump.... comonnnnnn

Adam-EB · 02-27-2005, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

hahaha... I love the 'get a merchant account' responses... like just anyone has the 10's of thousands to just throw around for that kind of stuff right from the get go.

10's of thousands? Hardly.

sonofsam · 02-27-2005, 10:12 PM

Bump..........

rowan · 02-27-2005, 11:12 PM

Get the corp, then get a ccbill account. Paycom is not very affiliate friendly, and giving +10% to the partner just for processing is dead money.

ace0r · 02-27-2005, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

hahaha... I love the 'get a merchant account' responses... like just anyone has the 10's of thousands to just throw around for that kind of stuff right from the get go.

it takes '10s of thousands' to get a merchant account?

lol

yellowmenace · 02-27-2005, 11:43 PM

both. get a cascade.

Zprogramz · 02-28-2005, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

hahaha... I love the 'get a merchant account' responses... like just anyone has the 10's of thousands to just throw around for that kind of stuff right from the get go.

It is 2k to get a domestic adult merchant account but you will save about 50% in processing fees.

Z

Major (Tom) · 02-28-2005, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowmenace

both. get a cascade.

Yup! Thats teh only way to fly

Duke

foxxx · 02-28-2005, 12:49 AM

but once you setup a taxid / or incorporate in america arent you then liable to pay taxes on income - even tho your not in america.

what would work out cheaper for him? paying taxes in america, loosing 3% on cc fee's then paying tax on the money when he brings it into canada, or paying 12% or so and paying his canadan taxes?

foxxx · 02-28-2005, 01:13 AM

*bump*

anyone know the tax system well to work this one out for an international person?

02-28-2005, 01:53 AM

Cascade the son of a bitch. Make sure you expedite your LLC/tax id info as well.

sonofsam · 02-28-2005, 01:55 AM

this is not a decision of which is better...

its.... what will work for me since i am in canada....

incorporation companies will supply a registered agent in the states.. but they wont make that agent give you his SSN number and Drivers licence number like CCBill requires

Snake Doctor · 02-28-2005, 02:43 AM

Paycom has affiliate software also so you don't necessarily "need" to buy tracking software.

Get your own account with the IPSP....too many possible nightmare scenarios with using someone else's

WarChild · 02-28-2005, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foxxx

but once you setup a taxid / or incorporate in america arent you then liable to pay taxes on income - even tho your not in america.

what would work out cheaper for him? paying taxes in america, loosing 3% on cc fee's then paying tax on the money when he brings it into canada, or paying 12% or so and paying his canadan taxes?

In Canada, if you pay tax in another country on income generated there, you can deduct what you've already paid from your Canadian tax bill. You don't get double charged that way.

ThumbWolf · 02-28-2005, 02:58 AM

I got setup w/ a High Risk MA, for $199.00.

bigdog · 02-28-2005, 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2

Paycom has affiliate software also so you don't necessarily "need" to buy tracking software.

Get your own account with the IPSP....too many possible nightmare scenarios with using someone else's

paycoms affilate software sucks it's a real shame

02-27-2005, 07:50 PM	#1
sonofsam Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 18,638	Affiliates point of view... Paycom vs CCBill in a dillemma.... can either go with paycom... but wait like 3 weeks to get a site up.. with incorporation package... getting a tax id etc.... or can partner up and get a subaccount off of someones ccbill account and give them 10%..... what to do... what to do..... __________________ I like turtles.

02-27-2005, 08:00 PM	#2
BigWebRev Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: L A Posts: 1,631	3 weeks to get set-up................that's one hell of a wait get your own MA. Last edited by BigWebRev; 02-27-2005 at 08:01 PM..

02-27-2005, 09:25 PM	#6
sonofsam Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 18,638	but then how much will the software and affiliate shit run me ? __________________ I like turtles.

02-27-2005, 09:29 PM	#8
StuartD Sofa King Band Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outside the box Posts: 29,903	hahaha... I love the 'get a merchant account' responses... like just anyone has the 10's of thousands to just throw around for that kind of stuff right from the get go. __________________ This is me on facebook This is me on twitter

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Kard63 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 237 619 975 Posts: 8,944	Whats an MA ? Doesnt CCBill handle yoru entire user database for you ? 13-14% is killer though. __________________

02-27-2005, 08:01 PM	#3
SureFire Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: internet Posts: 4,398	wait the weeks

02-27-2005, 09:13 PM	#4
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	wait it out. It's worth it because you'll make more money in the long run.

02-27-2005, 09:27 PM	#7
xenigo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 8,067	Paycom setup didn't take that long for me. I think I submitted my contract a week and a half ago. I already had the TaxID number though. Should be ready for processing tomorrow, not including VISA approval which they said could take another couple days.

02-27-2005, 09:48 PM	#11
sonofsam Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 18,638	bump.... comonnnnnn __________________ I like turtles.

02-27-2005, 10:12 PM	#13
sonofsam Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 18,638	Bump.......... __________________ I like turtles.

02-27-2005, 11:12 PM	#14
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Get the corp, then get a ccbill account. Paycom is not very affiliate friendly, and giving +10% to the partner just for processing is dead money.

02-27-2005, 11:43 PM	#16
yellowmenace Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,141	both. get a cascade. __________________ Yellow Menace icq# 322981173

02-28-2005, 12:49 AM	#19
foxxx Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Posts: 573	but once you setup a taxid / or incorporate in america arent you then liable to pay taxes on income - even tho your not in america. what would work out cheaper for him? paying taxes in america, loosing 3% on cc fee's then paying tax on the money when he brings it into canada, or paying 12% or so and paying his canadan taxes?

02-28-2005, 01:13 AM	#20
foxxx Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Posts: 573	bump anyone know the tax system well to work this one out for an international person?

02-28-2005, 01:53 AM	#21
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	Cascade the son of a bitch. Make sure you expedite your LLC/tax id info as well.

02-28-2005, 01:55 AM	#22
sonofsam Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 18,638	this is not a decision of which is better... its.... what will work for me since i am in canada.... incorporation companies will supply a registered agent in the states.. but they wont make that agent give you his SSN number and Drivers licence number like CCBill requires __________________ I like turtles.

02-28-2005, 02:43 AM	#23
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Paycom has affiliate software also so you don't necessarily "need" to buy tracking software. Get your own account with the IPSP....too many possible nightmare scenarios with using someone else's __________________ sig too big

02-28-2005, 02:58 AM	#25
ThumbWolf Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 154	I got setup w/ a High Risk MA, for $199.00.