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will76 · 02-27-2005, 04:58 PM

I finally took Lars up on his suggestion to send the traffic from some of the sites I had for sale, over to his stuff.

Trying to figure out how sales work. This is what I did for yesterday.

Program 20% LifeTime
Referrals 960
Free Sign Ups 24
Paid Sign Ups N/A
(PPS) Sales $0.00
Chargebacks/Credits $0.00

I know it's not a lot of traffic, just some sites I had sitting, but curious how it works. It says I am in the 20% program... how do i get in the $70 per free signup program ?

Thanks for whomever helps ;)

en1 · 02-27-2005, 05:03 PM

to do the $70 you need to sign up for the $25 on first sale...

i think they are only doing the 70 till march...im not sure though
and from what i understand you will make the $70 when the free member pays

will76 · 02-27-2005, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by en1

to do the $70 you need to sign up for the $25 on first sale...

i think they are only doing the 70 till march...im not sure though
and from what i understand you will make the $70 when the free member pays

So I don't make $70 till the customer buys time ??

pxxx · 02-27-2005, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

So I don't make $70 till the customer buys time ??

I believe it is something like that. I remember reading where Lars explained it. The customer has to make a minimum of $20 deposit i think. If i am wrong, forgive me, Lars, and his team. That is what i can rememeber from the top though.

will76 · 02-27-2005, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pxxx

I believe it is something like that. I remember reading where Lars explained it. The customer has to make a minimum of $20 deposit i think. If i am wrong, forgive me, Lars, and his team. That is what i can rememeber from the top though.

I know a lot of people advertise them here so hopefully somone can stop in soon and clear it up for me.

Thanks guys.

budz · 02-27-2005, 05:18 PM

yo will, stick to clickcash ;)

No one comes close to clickcash.

I've sent 50 or so free signups to lars and made 0$.

With the same traffic I easily make $ with clickcash.

Matt_WildCash · 02-27-2005, 05:28 PM

Does the customer have to pay money before you get paid via Clickcash???

Cams.com looks pretty solid, nice interface. Are you saying Ifriends has a better system or pays you more?

will76 · 02-27-2005, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driven

Does the customer have to pay money before you get paid via Clickcash???

Cams.com looks pretty solid, nice interface. Are you saying Ifriends has a better system or pays you more?

i don't want people to think i am posting here to bash cams. I have a lot of respect for Lar's and their program. I wanted to keep my word to Lar's on his suggestion for me to send him traffic from sites I had sitting around, so I did this. All along though I thought I would make $70 per free signup. I am still not clear on this but from my stats it does not look that way. Hopefully someone will explain.

I can tell you how clickcash works. Someone signups with valid credit card. There is a $1 charge to their Credit card to verify the card. YOU make $40+ just from them signing up, even if they don't spend

Clickcash is marketed as FREE, they credit the $1 to the person's first purchase and will refund it back if they do not spend money.

because of my volume of sales I make about $55 a signup. I was under the impression that cams.com paid $70 under the same circumstances. so hell why not throw some their way, but not sure If I understand properly how the program works. I know I send people into clickcash that don't spend money, and I also know i send people in that spend $500+ right away. So clickcash is ok with paying you for people who don't spend money because they know it averages out.

pxxx · 02-27-2005, 05:50 PM

Cams.com is definitely solid. Maybe different payout system, but i am sure somebody can get it cleared up for you in a bit. I think what i said is close to being right, if not right. I just don't want to put the wrong word out there for them, which means that i might be wrong. Just trying to offer something from memory.

bump for the evening crew.

will76 · 02-27-2005, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budz

yo will, stick to clickcash ;)

No one comes close to clickcash.

I've sent 50 or so free signups to lars and made 0$.

With the same traffic I easily make $ with clickcash.

easy big guy... all programs have their critics believe me I know... people bash clickcash 24/7 on here for whatever reasons...

A lot of people say they do great with cams.com too, so i am sure it is a good program.

I'm not looking to make a switch, i had a couple thousand hits i thought i would throw at cams.com, that traffic was making me nothing since ibill went under. I neglected the sites and never got around to sending the traffic to clickcash, so Lars seems like a nice guy and i really dig his ambush interview so i sent that traffic his way.

Hey budz if you ever want any help with clickcash icq me: 86364801

Sean · 02-27-2005, 06:00 PM

hey will, you can hit me up on icq anytime and ask me. the program that we have is free sign up. we do have sites that work like other's, where we charge one dollar, but they are clearly stated as $1 memberships sites versus another cam program that says its a free signup and charges $1 to 'verify' the creditcard and the i think another 6.95 per month for something.

but cams.com is a free sign up. put in a user name and password, and you can chat with a model right then. when that surfer spends money on a model, then we will pay you $70 or 20% over the lifetime of that surfer's account.

pxxx · 02-27-2005, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irish Pimp

hey will, you can hit me up on icq anytime and ask me. the program that we have is free sign up. we do have sites that work like other's, where we charge one dollar, but they are clearly stated as $1 memberships sites versus another cam program that says its a free signup and charges $1 to 'verify' the creditcard and the i think another 6.95 per month for something.

but cams.com is a free sign up. put in a user name and password, and you can chat with a model right then. when that surfer spends money on a model, then we will pay you $70 or 20% over the lifetime of that surfer's account.

There, knew you gusy would show up soon.

I hope i did not do any damage according to what i told him, i remembered. Even though i was close. I think.

Sean · 02-27-2005, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pxxx

There, knew you gusy would show up soon.

I hope i did not do any damage according to what i told him, i remembered. Even though i was close. I think.

you got it right for the most. we pay when a surfer spend cash on a model. if they spend a dime, then we pay.

i have not been on gfy much this weekend, got a new car and im playing with it... but it started to rain now.

Sosa · 02-27-2005, 06:22 PM

with your traffic and how good you were doing with clickcash, I would have stayed there.

Elli · 02-27-2005, 06:25 PM

d'oh I missed this one. Good catch, Sean

will76 · 02-27-2005, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sosa

with your traffic and how good you were doing with clickcash, I would have stayed there.

Sosa please read my post before you reply... thanks

appranetly you missed this part:

I'm not looking to make a switch, i had a couple thousand hits i thought i would throw at cams.com, that traffic was making me nothing since ibill went under. I neglected the sites and never got around to sending the traffic to clickcash, so Lars seems like a nice guy and i really dig his ambush interview so i sent that traffic his way.

will76 · 02-27-2005, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irish Pimp

hey will, you can hit me up on icq anytime and ask me. the program that we have is free sign up. we do have sites that work like other's, where we charge one dollar, but they are clearly stated as $1 memberships sites versus another cam program that says its a free signup and charges $1 to 'verify' the creditcard and the i think another 6.95 per month for something.

but cams.com is a free sign up. put in a user name and password, and you can chat with a model right then. when that surfer spends money on a model, then we will pay you $70 or 20% over the lifetime of that surfer's account.

Thanks for explaining. All this time I saw the $70 free signup and I thought it meant just that, $70 free signup, not $70 free signup only after somene spends money. Hell I was excited when i logged in and saw I had 38 Free signups, but then noticed no money

I guess this traffic does not work well with cams.com .

For clickcash it is a $1 signup but like i said, they credit you a $1 on your first purchase and if you don't buy anything they refund you that back so it really is free. The $6.95 is an upsell (VIP) membership, not required.

Thanks again for explaining.

Kevsh · 02-27-2005, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

Thanks for explaining. All this time I saw the $70 free signup and I thought it meant just that, $70 free signup, not $70 free signup only after somene spends money. Hell I was excited when i logged in and saw I had 38 Free signups, but then noticed no money

I guess this traffic does not work well with cams.com .

For clickcash it is a $1 signup but like i said, they credit you a $1 on your first purchase and if you don't buy anything they refund you that back so it really is free. The $6.95 is an upsell (VIP) membership, not required.

Thanks again for explaining.

This is correct - $70 only after they spend something, anything.

Earlier in the month they were converting very well for me but in the last week or so, very very poor. I think I'm in the 1:3500 range on mostly SE traffic. First half of the month, about 1:700 ... not sure what's going on but it's frustrating.

Still $70 PPS is still one of the best deals out there!

Xenophage · 02-27-2005, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

Thanks for explaining. All this time I saw the $70 free signup and I thought it meant just that, $70 free signup, not $70 free signup only after somene spends money. Hell I was excited when i logged in and saw I had 38 Free signups, but then noticed no money

I guess this traffic does not work well with cams.com .

For clickcash it is a $1 signup but like i said, they credit you a $1 on your first purchase and if you don't buy anything they refund you that back so it really is free. The $6.95 is an upsell (VIP) membership, not required.

Thanks again for explaining.

Will where does it say $70 Per free signup ? This is not the case and if any of our advertising says this I want to know since we dont pay on a free signup and we never have. We do have $1 sites, but our special for the $70 right now is on cams.com and our other cobrands. That being said I would love for you to give this a better test than 1 day. So I am willing to prebuy from you that same traffic for a month. Tell me what its worth to you !

There is also a huge difference between a free signup with a verified credit card holder and a free signup here a person just makes a username and password. Plus As an Ifriends customer I can tell you that the 6.95 is pretty much a mandatory fee. Fuck if i can figure out how to not pay it.

here is from their join form

Account Information As a responsible e-commerce-enabled communications platform, iFriends is available only to adults aged 18 years or older who are bound by the iFriends terms of service and rules of the road. Because chat services like iFriends can occasionally attract user misconduct such as identity theft, spam and other abuses, iFriends undertakes responsible measures to verify your identity, including matching your registration information against available verification databases and services. Of course, your privacy is respected and protected at all times. Please identify yourself below and provide your age. (Click here for full terms and conditions)

*The regular $6.95 monthly fee for ClubVIP is waived for iFriends members who participate in, and contribute to the service. Click here for details.

ClubVIP membership is free to all iFriends members who regularly participate in, and contribute to, the iFriends community. There are numerous ways to participate in the community. And most are 100% free!

For example, as you navigate through the iFriends photo and videoclip archives, you have the opportunity to vote on each image or videoclip you encounter, and classify it into one or more "picpost" or "videopost" categories. If you vote on just 25 different images or videoclips each month, the regular monthly ClubVIP membership fee is completely waived for you the following month.

You see, the iFriends service is driven, designed and populated not by the operators of the iFriends.net website, but by iFriends chathosts and community members like you. iFriends is what you make of it! It's a special place, created by special people like you.

Here's a list of how you can help build the iFriends community, and earn ClubVIP benefits for free!

Archive Voting, Review & Classification: As you navigate through the iFriends photo and videoclip archives, you have the opportunity to vote on each image or videoclip you encounter, and classify it into one or "picpost" or "videopost" categories. If you vote on just 25 different images or videoclips each month, the regular monthly ClubVIP membership fee is is completely waived for you the following month.

Be a chathost. When you host at least 5 live webcam videochat sessions on 5 different days in the current month, and you also have a regular iFriends ClubVIP account, the regular monthly ClubVIP membership fee is is completely waived for you the following month. (Name, street and address on both accounts much match perfectly for our system to credit your ClubVIP account properly).

Spend time with Chathosts. When you spend at least 60 minutes over the course of the month with fee-based live video chathosts, the regular monthly ClubVIP membership fee is is completely waived for you the following month.

But if you signup put your card in and dont do one of the following things above you are automatically enrolled in the $6.95 per month recurring.

Not exactly sure how one can call the service free and still charge $1 and then charge another $6.95 - that being said I was sending webpower (amateur Hardcore) traffic way back in 1996 and have nothing bad to say about them, cuzz I dont know them. By the way i am still getting billed the $6.95 and I never even logged intot he site after putting my credit card in to test how they billed people. Guess i should call the number and get that tuend off LOL.

will76 · 02-28-2005, 12:35 AM

The $70 thing was prolly a miss understanding on my part.

I'll let it ride for a month, no charge to you... I like you, See how it goes. I know more about you then the owners of clickcash/ifriends.. hell i don't know who ownes it. Hopefully I can make good with this test, if so I will throw some more your way. Like to see you be #1 cam site guy. But at the end of the day I have to go with makes me the most. Well see what happens. Right now I send Clickcash about 55 free signups a day and I make over seven figs a year, I can understand thats a hard one to match for anybody...

BTW, the $6.95 is a box that is checked by default on one of the pages in the join process, you have to uncheck it to not be charged, if you skim through it and miss it, you will pay for it, but the VIP is worth it IMO

anyway. little sneaky, but aren't we all ;)

Xenophage · 02-28-2005, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

The $70 thing was prolly a miss understanding on my part.

I'll let it ride for a month, no charge to you... I like you, See how it goes. I know more about you then the owners of clickcash/ifriends.. hell i don't know who ownes it. Hopefully I can make good with this test, if so I will throw some more your way. Like to see you be #1 cam site guy. But at the end of the day I have to go with makes me the most. Well see what happens. Right now I send Clickcash about 55 free signups a day and I make over seven figs a year, I can understand thats a hard one to match for anybody...

BTW, the $6.95 is a box that is checked by default on one of the pages in the join process, you have to uncheck it to not be charged, if you skim through it and miss it, you will pay for it, but the VIP is worth it IMO

anyway. little sneaky, but aren't we all ;)

ok kewl, I will be the number one cam site by the end of this year

Anyway Al Hadhazey is the owner of Ifriends or was the last time I checked

He is very low key and does nto go to shows or hang out on boards.

simple simon · 02-28-2005, 09:48 AM

cams.com is lightyears behind ifriends

Xenophage · 02-28-2005, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simple simon

cams.com is lightyears behind ifriends

Hhahaha I totally disagree, I get webmasters all the time letting me know that we actuallly are converting their traffic better than Ifriends. So say whatever you want but Our numbers are gaining quickly on them and we will surpass them in sales dollar volume this year !

Xenophage · 02-28-2005, 10:12 AM

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...bpower.com#top

simple simon · 02-28-2005, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...bpower.com#top

alexa means fuck all, whats the point?

Xenophage · 02-28-2005, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simple simon

alexa means fuck all, whats the point?

Just showing relative growth

Anyway worthless ot argue..

Just know this I am out to Dominate the Cam market in every area and i wont stop until i do !

adonthenet · 02-28-2005, 10:44 AM

i like cams.com

will76 · 02-28-2005, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

Just showing relative growth

Anyway worthless ot argue..

Just know this I am out to Dominate the Cam market in every area and i wont stop until i do !

Thats the right attitude

Sean · 02-28-2005, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...bpower.com#top

getting a little love up in that mug

Xenophage · 07-24-2005, 11:00 AM

Legendary Lars - CAMS.COM - Streamray Inc.

We are paying $50-$130 for every Streamray live cams sale !

Cams.com Is converting off the hook, we are well on our way to being # 1

We are exploding and we want everyone to give us a shot ! This should motivate everyone to put up some nice links to us !

We have launched a ton of new marketing tools in the last month, take advantage of this !

Streamray has been going through in the last year the greatest growth of the company so far!

I want to thank everyone who supports us and sends us traffic, and who supports us on the boards.

Our conversions are up 70% in the last 6 months month, due to many new changes to our site and backend. People are converting better today than they have ever done in the past !

More Geo Ads - best method of improving conversions:
Geo-Targeted Banners! Generate an HTML advertisement customized for each visitor's city/state/country. These banners can also have custom colors in order to blend seamlessly into your site.

Here are some examples

http://legendarylars.com/promo/geo_iframe_display.jsp

Hit up Irish Pimp if you have any questions ICQ 147498861

pornprotege · 07-24-2005, 11:59 AM

your traffic is probably more suited to ClickCash after all that optimizing and tweaking for it Will....

The only diffrence that is really noticeable is how ugly clickcash affiliate program is compared to www.streamray.com

Kevsh · 07-24-2005, 12:21 PM

Old thread bump alert!! ...

But in any event, one day doesn't tell you anything as many customers get cookied and come back later before spending a dime.

squeezeboobs · 07-24-2005, 08:02 PM

How does clickcash.com rate today against cams.com?

Elli · 07-24-2005, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squeezeboobs

How does clickcash.com rate today against cams.com?

oh lord, here we go again...

poisson · 07-24-2005, 08:10 PM

I started promoting the 20% 3 days ago and already have some minutes sold, i'm excited about the program, sent about 1300 uniques and have over 100 free membership. Once again, Lars proove me his program rock, i've made alot of bacon with his 70$ promo in the beginning of the year, now it is time for a long term relationship!

02-27-2005, 05:03 PM	#2
en1 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 858	to do the $70 you need to sign up for the $25 on first sale... i think they are only doing the 70 till march...im not sure though and from what i understand you will make the $70 when the free member pays __________________ skype:wobbbbb aim: wob

02-27-2005, 05:18 PM	#6
budz Disruptive Innovator Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Vegas Posts: 4,230	yo will, stick to clickcash ;) No one comes close to clickcash. I've sent 50 or so free signups to lars and made 0$. With the same traffic I easily make $ with clickcash. __________________ C:\Code\ C:\Code\Run\

02-27-2005, 06:00 PM	#11
Sean revolutionforce.com Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: i moved from an ICQ box to a Skype box. left the skype box for a telegram box Posts: 2,909	hey will, you can hit me up on icq anytime and ask me. the program that we have is free sign up. we do have sites that work like other's, where we charge one dollar, but they are clearly stated as $1 memberships sites versus another cam program that says its a free signup and charges $1 to 'verify' the creditcard and the i think another 6.95 per month for something. but cams.com is a free sign up. put in a user name and password, and you can chat with a model right then. when that surfer spends money on a model, then we will pay you $70 or 20% over the lifetime of that surfer's account. __________________ -sean skype: sean.a.christian sean @ revolutionforce.com

02-27-2005, 06:25 PM	#15
Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	d'oh I missed this one. Good catch, Sean __________________ email: [email protected]

02-28-2005, 12:35 AM	#20
will76 Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: USA Posts: 18,037	The $70 thing was prolly a miss understanding on my part. I'll let it ride for a month, no charge to you... I like you, See how it goes. I know more about you then the owners of clickcash/ifriends.. hell i don't know who ownes it. Hopefully I can make good with this test, if so I will throw some more your way. Like to see you be #1 cam site guy. But at the end of the day I have to go with makes me the most. Well see what happens. Right now I send Clickcash about 55 free signups a day and I make over seven figs a year, I can understand thats a hard one to match for anybody... BTW, the $6.95 is a box that is checked by default on one of the pages in the join process, you have to uncheck it to not be charged, if you skim through it and miss it, you will pay for it, but the VIP is worth it IMO anyway. little sneaky, but aren't we all ;) __________________ ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com PROGRAM SHIT LIST - DO NOT PROMOTE (click link for gfy thread) FNCash \| Media Revenue

02-27-2005, 04:58 PM	#1
will76 Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: USA Posts: 18,037	Cams.com Stats (please explain) I finally took Lars up on his suggestion to send the traffic from some of the sites I had for sale, over to his stuff. Trying to figure out how sales work. This is what I did for yesterday. Program 20% LifeTime Referrals 960 Free Sign Ups 24 Paid Sign Ups N/A (PPS) Sales $0.00 Chargebacks/Credits $0.00 I know it's not a lot of traffic, just some sites I had sitting, but curious how it works. It says I am in the 20% program... how do i get in the $70 per free signup program ? Thanks for whomever helps ;) __________________ ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com PROGRAM SHIT LIST - DO NOT PROMOTE (click link for gfy thread) FNCash \| Media Revenue

02-27-2005, 05:28 PM	#7
Matt_WildCash Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,699	Does the customer have to pay money before you get paid via Clickcash??? Cams.com looks pretty solid, nice interface. Are you saying Ifriends has a better system or pays you more?

02-27-2005, 05:50 PM	#9
pxxx First African GFY Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 12,114	Cams.com is definitely solid. Maybe different payout system, but i am sure somebody can get it cleared up for you in a bit. I think what i said is close to being right, if not right. I just don't want to put the wrong word out there for them, which means that i might be wrong. Just trying to offer something from memory. bump for the evening crew.

02-27-2005, 06:22 PM	#14
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	with your traffic and how good you were doing with clickcash, I would have stayed there.

02-28-2005, 09:48 AM	#22
simple simon Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 854	cams.com is lightyears behind ifriends

02-28-2005, 10:12 AM	#24
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...bpower.com#top

02-28-2005, 10:44 AM	#27
adonthenet Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,753	i like cams.com

07-24-2005, 11:00 AM	#30
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	Legendary Lars - CAMS.COM - Streamray Inc. We are paying $50-$130 for every Streamray live cams sale ! Cams.com Is converting off the hook, we are well on our way to being # 1 We are exploding and we want everyone to give us a shot ! This should motivate everyone to put up some nice links to us ! We have launched a ton of new marketing tools in the last month, take advantage of this ! Streamray has been going through in the last year the greatest growth of the company so far! I want to thank everyone who supports us and sends us traffic, and who supports us on the boards. Our conversions are up 70% in the last 6 months month, due to many new changes to our site and backend. People are converting better today than they have ever done in the past ! More Geo Ads - best method of improving conversions: Geo-Targeted Banners! Generate an HTML advertisement customized for each visitor's city/state/country. These banners can also have custom colors in order to blend seamlessly into your site. Here are some examples http://legendarylars.com/promo/geo_iframe_display.jsp Hit up Irish Pimp if you have any questions ICQ 147498861

07-24-2005, 11:59 AM	#31
pornprotege Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,705	your traffic is probably more suited to ClickCash after all that optimizing and tweaking for it Will.... The only diffrence that is really noticeable is how ugly clickcash affiliate program is compared to www.streamray.com __________________ i don't have a sig.

07-24-2005, 12:21 PM	#32
Kevsh Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: TO Posts: 8,619	Old thread bump alert!! ... But in any event, one day doesn't tell you anything as many customers get cookied and come back later before spending a dime.

07-24-2005, 08:02 PM	#33
squeezeboobs Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Boston MA Posts: 887	How does clickcash.com rate today against cams.com? __________________ (oYo) (oYo) (oYo) (oYo) (oYo) (oYo) (oYo) ICQ 149295193

07-24-2005, 08:10 PM	#35
poisson Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sea Posts: 6,474	I started promoting the 20% 3 days ago and already have some minutes sold, i'm excited about the program, sent about 1300 uniques and have over 100 free membership. Once again, Lars proove me his program rock, i've made alot of bacon with his 70$ promo in the beginning of the year, now it is time for a long term relationship! __________________