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Old 03-09-2005, 11:47 AM   #1
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Some of you hardcore content producers are idiots

Expecially you reality types. Of course in certain reality shoots there has to be some preliminary talking, like when picking up the girl, offering her money etc. But not while the sex is going on.

The talking -

"do you like that?"
"How does that feel?"
"Look at those titties!"

DUH! Shut up already.

The laughing - like we need to hear a bunch of idiots laughing while fucking is going on. Some guy is trying to yank one off in front of his computer and your idiot actors are all laughing while they fuck. Unreal

Camera pans up to show the idiot stunt cock's face for 20 seconds
What are you, fucking dumb? Who the hell wants to see the idiot stunk cock's face all grimaced up for 20 seconds at a stretch ever two minutes throughout the film? Nobody, that's who.

Get a clue already. You camera guys SHUT UP, and keep your camera pointed at the girl instead of indulging your gay tendancies by panning to the guy every two minutes. You models and stunt idiots at least try to appear as though you're enjoying some great sex for fuck sakes. Some of the so-called "pornstars" out there look like they'd rather be having a fucking pedicure than getting banged by Studley Do-right. Disinterested sex is not entertaining.

/rant.


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Old 03-09-2005, 11:49 AM   #2
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I remember some video where the guy is trying to pull off the money shot and he can't do it. Some guy off camera yells, "It's not like trying to solve a math equation." Pretty funny, but at the same time, totally un-bonerific.
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Maybe they are gay and can't believe they are actually fucking a girl.
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Old 03-09-2005, 11:51 AM   #4
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I agree, I suggest a protest to porn
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i agree, i cant stand the chuckling and general crap... i rather hear the girl and thats it.

nothing worst than listening to two chubby pornographers chuckle while fucking and filming.
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I remember some video where the guy is trying to pull off the money shot and he can't do it. Some guy off camera yells, "It's not like trying to solve a math equation." Pretty funny, but at the same time, totally un-bonerific.
Okay, actually THAT would be entertaining.

But nothing.... repeat: NOTHING... is worse that wanking to a film, you're almost there.... almost...... there...... the guy is really giving it to the hot porn babe from behind.... camera is just at the right angle..... you're about to pop a nut.... and then the fucking idiot retard of a camera guy pans up to show the guy's face. All is lost. Ten seconds goes by. Twenty. Buy the time the camera gets back to the action you're in the kitchen making coffee.

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i agree, i cant stand the chuckling and general crap... i rather hear the girl and thats it.

nothing worst than listening to two chubby pornographers chuckle while fucking and filming.
no names neccessary on this one. i made a thread about this way back with content people that look more like they're just trying to fuck rather than make content. horrible cam angles, long long long long shots of the same thing that go on forever and the talking.

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lol entertaining post but makes a good point
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this thread makes me think of the Fred Durst video.... "yeah I like it when you play with my balls and ass"... and when he looks into the camera.

I think Fred likes the cock too.
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I agree on that as well..It kinda ruins my hardon when some dude is yapping away and I want to beat off
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Old 03-09-2005, 12:15 PM   #11
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gotta admit most of the POV shooters have no game with the girls.

i mean, come on, let's get real. most of the girls are average or slightly below average.

and these girls should be flattered that someone is trying to bone them.

but the way these guys handle the girls is so lame and anti-erotic by the time the money shot comes you know this gal just wants to take her cash and run...i've never seen so many cum-dodgers in my life---a total turnoff.

i think 90% of pov shooters are the guys that never got laid in high school, and have NO IDEA how to talk to a girl.

they've had to pay for pussy their whole life, and pov shooting is just an extension of that.

want to know who are the lamest of the lame?---look for the vendors having blowout sales---there is a reason surfers don't like that shit---and the main reason is because the girls aren't having a good time.
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The barrier to entry when it comes to shooting content now is very low.
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Expecially you reality types. Of course in certain reality shoots there has to be some preliminary talking, like when picking up the girl, offering her money etc. But not while the sex is going on.

The talking -

"do you like that?"
"How does that feel?"
"Look at those titties!"

DUH! Shut up already.

The laughing - like we need to hear a bunch of idiots laughing while fucking is going on. Some guy is trying to yank one off in front of his computer and your idiot actors are all laughing while they fuck. Unreal

Camera pans up to show the idiot stunt cock's face for 20 seconds
What are you, fucking dumb? Who the hell wants to see the idiot stunk cock's face all grimaced up for 20 seconds at a stretch ever two minutes throughout the film? Nobody, that's who.

Get a clue already. You camera guys SHUT UP, and keep your camera pointed at the girl instead of indulging your gay tendancies by panning to the guy every two minutes. You models and stunt idiots at least try to appear as though you're enjoying some great sex for fuck sakes. Some of the so-called "pornstars" out there look like they'd rather be having a fucking pedicure than getting banged by Studley Do-right. Disinterested sex is not entertaining.

/rant.


There you go, drama. Discuss....



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Expecially you reality types. Of course in certain reality shoots there has to be some preliminary talking, like when picking up the girl, offering her money etc. But not while the sex is going on.

The talking -

"do you like that?"
"How does that feel?"
"Look at those titties!"

DUH! Shut up already.

The laughing - like we need to hear a bunch of idiots laughing while fucking is going on. Some guy is trying to yank one off in front of his computer and your idiot actors are all laughing while they fuck. Unreal

Camera pans up to show the idiot stunt cock's face for 20 seconds
What are you, fucking dumb? Who the hell wants to see the idiot stunk cock's face all grimaced up for 20 seconds at a stretch ever two minutes throughout the film? Nobody, that's who.

Get a clue already. You camera guys SHUT UP, and keep your camera pointed at the girl instead of indulging your gay tendancies by panning to the guy every two minutes. You models and stunt idiots at least try to appear as though you're enjoying some great sex for fuck sakes. Some of the so-called "pornstars" out there look like they'd rather be having a fucking pedicure than getting banged by Studley Do-right. Disinterested sex is not entertaining.

/rant.


There you go, drama. Discuss....

You are so right. Couldnt agree more.
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Old 03-09-2005, 12:32 PM   #15
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its sooooooooo part of porn.......the shitty dialog....the redundant stupid music....if they would be orginal it would be a miracle but yet....I dont think people would actually get it......
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"i think 90% of pov shooters are the guys that never got laid in high school, and have NO IDEA how to talk to a girl."

LOL
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Old 03-09-2005, 12:37 PM   #17
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The POV stuff is just another type of content. Those guys at bang bus did quite well with it.. I still sell a lot of it at SoBeGirl.

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Old 03-09-2005, 12:40 PM   #18
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Fucking hell I hate guy chatter in the videos. SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU RUIN THE VIDEO!
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You should have added "when you lease out your shitty content to half a dozen people... it's not EXCLUSIVE anymore to your rant".

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Even worse than talking is excessive moaning and groaning by guys. I was watching this one video a while back. This guy just wouldn't shut the fuck up. Even louder than the chick. But i figure, hey, he's just a vocal kinda guy. But then it gets worse. He goes down on her. This is a one on one situation by the way, so there's nobody else involved, and this guy is moaning like he's getting his cock sucked and all he's doing is licking her out. I can understand a few "mmm" sort things, but you'd think this guy was having multiple orgasms. It's fucking silly.
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Talking is not nearly as bad as when the guy actor moans louder than the girl... wood killer for sure!
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That Paris hilton video is a good example of a guy not shutting up. He sounded like he was about to have a baby through the whole thing, and paris barely says two words.
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The worst is when two guys are coaching eachother like

"that's right dude, fuck her hard"

or

"damn man, she likes that cock in her mouth"

WTF?
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I have to agree that the laughing is annoying and lame to say the least...
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I agree guys need to STFU in movies. We don't want to see your faces or hear you. Bad enough I have to see your ass or cock or balls but unfotunatley it's a necesary evil. YOU are not teh start the slut is. You should conside yourself lucky your ugly fat ass gets to fuck a fine chick AND you are getting paid for it. So do me a favor just fuck the whore and STFU and tell your buddies to STFU too.
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I agree with everything that's written in that rant.
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i know, i did too
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sounds like the Playboy Interview with David Duchovny where he explains that he hates looking at the hairy ass of the male actor just about when he is to come.
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The question is, will any of these dumbass producers read this thread, and more importantly, will they adjust their gameplan?

Doubt it.

Judging by their content we're not talking about the smartest bananas in the bunch.
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yeah i find a lot of reality and pov stuff to be not-erotic
but it isn't the kind of stuff i work with so it doesn't bother me too much what they do.
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Classic CD SMITH,

Good to have you back.
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The question is, will any of these dumbass producers read this thread, and more importantly, will they adjust their gameplan?

Doubt it.

Judging by their content we're not talking about the smartest bananas in the bunch.
Did you everthink that the people buying in some cases are requesting this bullshit dialog... I have had people ask for certain things to be said before, during the fucking and after the fucking. Blame some of the DUMB CHEAP ASS AFFILIATE OWNERS for this....
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Maybe they are gay and can't believe they are actually fucking a girl.
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Camera pans up to show the idiot stunt cock's face for 20 seconds
What are you, fucking dumb? Who the hell wants to see the idiot stunk cock's face all grimaced up for 20 seconds at a stretch ever two minutes throughout the film? Nobody, that's who.

Interestingly enough....Most of my clients ask for this sort of thing....In fact...They want the dudes face to be really fucked up...The more fucked up looking, the more they seem to like it.
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Interestingly enough....Most of my clients ask for this sort of thing....In fact...They want the dudes face to be really fucked up...The more fucked up looking, the more they seem to like it.
Bullshit. I watch porn. I lnow what I like I know what my friends like. I never met ANY guy( that'ss triahgt ) that said to me. "Hey they are showing too much pussy I want more camera time of that guys face!" I never understood showing a guys face. Yeah getting a good jack off session going, getting ready to blow a load then the camera shows the guys face. Yeah that's the image I want to see as I'm cumming. That's great, I just came to a guys face. Does that make me gay now?
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Okay, actually THAT would be entertaining.

But nothing.... repeat: NOTHING... is worse that wanking to a film, you're almost there.... almost...... there...... the guy is really giving it to the hot porn babe from behind.... camera is just at the right angle..... you're about to pop a nut.... and then the fucking idiot retard of a camera guy pans up to show the guy's face. All is lost. Ten seconds goes by. Twenty. Buy the time the camera gets back to the action you're in the kitchen making coffee.

for some reason that seriously made me laugh my ass sof
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Bullshit. I watch porn. I lnow what I like I know what my friends like. I never met ANY guy( that'ss triahgt ) that said to me. "Hey they are showing too much pussy I want more camera time of that guys face!" I never understood showing a guys face. Yeah getting a good jack off session going, getting ready to blow a load then the camera shows the guys face. Yeah that's the image I want to see as I'm cumming. That's great, I just came to a guys face. Does that make me gay now?

I could do without the guy altogether. Give me realistic lesbian,strapon and dildo action anytime.
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Expecially you reality types. Of course in certain reality shoots there has to be some preliminary talking, like when picking up the girl, offering her money etc. But not while the sex is going on.

The talking -

"do you like that?"
"How does that feel?"
"Look at those titties!"

DUH! Shut up already.

The laughing - like we need to hear a bunch of idiots laughing while fucking is going on. Some guy is trying to yank one off in front of his computer and your idiot actors are all laughing while they fuck. Unreal

Camera pans up to show the idiot stunt cock's face for 20 seconds
What are you, fucking dumb? Who the hell wants to see the idiot stunk cock's face all grimaced up for 20 seconds at a stretch ever two minutes throughout the film? Nobody, that's who.

Get a clue already. You camera guys SHUT UP, and keep your camera pointed at the girl instead of indulging your gay tendancies by panning to the guy every two minutes. You models and stunt idiots at least try to appear as though you're enjoying some great sex for fuck sakes. Some of the so-called "pornstars" out there look like they'd rather be having a fucking pedicure than getting banged by Studley Do-right. Disinterested sex is not entertaining.

/rant.

There you go, drama. Discuss....

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Old 03-09-2005, 04:54 PM   #42
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Bullshit. I watch porn. I lnow what I like I know what my friends like. I never met ANY guy( that'ss triahgt ) that said to me. "Hey they are showing too much pussy I want more camera time of that guys face!" I never understood showing a guys face. Yeah getting a good jack off session going, getting ready to blow a load then the camera shows the guys face. Yeah that's the image I want to see as I'm cumming. That's great, I just came to a guys face. Does that make me gay now?

Bullshit huh?


OK....

I have clients asking me for stupid shit all the time. I have clients that think that a member wants to watch a 45 minute masturbation video. The truth is that the average member won't even watch the full length of a 10 minute masturbation video. If he likes it, he pops before 10 minutes...If he doesn't like it, he is not gonna stick around for 45 minutes.

People ask for shit all the time that makes no fucking sense. If my client wants me to pan to a guys face then that's what I shoot for them.

I also work with designers. The designers want those images for site tours and design shit.

Don't call bullshit on me just because you opinion is different. Go rent any straight...non POV...porn flick right now then come back here and tell me that they never panned to the guys face.
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Old 03-09-2005, 04:55 PM   #43
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for me, the one site that really does it the RIGHT way is Shocking Parties from AdultPlayersClub...that site fucking rocks...aside from a few bad shots in a couple episodes, everything seems real organic and natural...it doesn't feel staged at all

I also think Her First Lesbian Experience from pluginfeeds.comhas it right...except for a couple lame episodes, most of it is produced really well...the guy running the camea knows how to balance banter with shutting the fuck up when the action gets going and the models who act as seducers are often good as well as the seducees...

lost in all of this "it's what the client wants" talk, it's too bad no one gives a fuck what the member paying the $30-40 per month wants.

I have friends who are serial porn membership buyers and they express the same disappointments as CDSmith did to start off this thread...

the reason the bangbus guys do it well and right is they were first and not just pale imitations...they are good at balancing "dude talk" with "shut up and let them fuck" time
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I could do without the guy altogether. Give me realistic lesbian,strapon and dildo action anytime.
Here you go.
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Old 03-09-2005, 05:14 PM   #45
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Bullshit huh?


OK....

I have clients asking me for stupid shit all the time. I have clients that think that a member wants to watch a 45 minute masturbation video. The truth is that the average member won't even watch the full length of a 10 minute masturbation video. If he likes it, he pops before 10 minutes...If he doesn't like it, he is not gonna stick around for 45 minutes.

People ask for shit all the time that makes no fucking sense. If my client wants me to pan to a guys face then that's what I shoot for them.
First I said bullshit as in it's bullshit that someone would WANT that stuff to be shot. As in they are STUPID to want that stuff shot like that. Get it now?

Ummmmm I assume your clients expect make $$$ of your shoots right? Now if people like ME and EVERYONE I know will not PURCHASE their "custom shoots" with all that crap where do they make $$$$? Hmmmmmmm.

The CUSTOMER( as in ME ) is ALWAYS right.

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Don't call bullshit on me just because you opinion is different. Go rent any straight...non POV...porn flick right now then come back here and tell me that they never panned to the guys face.
Also I never said they didn't I believe I said porn in genreal has been doing this forever and I can't stand it. So quit getting all pissy like I was just harping on YOU and you alone.
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Ummmmm I assume your clients expect make $$$ of your shoots right? Now if people like ME and EVERYONE I know will not PURCHASE their "custom shoots" with all that crap where do they make $$$$? Hmmmmmmm.

Yep...You're right.

Hustler Video, VCA, DigitalSin, Dane Productions.....These guys must all be retards because I'm sure nobody is buying their stuff.

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Yep...You're right.

Hustler Video, VCA, DigitalSin, Dane Productions.....These guys must all be retards because I'm sure nobody is buying their stuff.

Are you a fucking reatrd? DO I not count as a CONSUMER? How about every single guy I know? They don't count? My OPINION as a consumer doesn't matter. Oh that's nice. Yep I'm the only guy who hates that crap and thus will not purchase those products.
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I sell porn all day long and i have no idea what you guys are talking about. I do not think I have watched more then a porn clip in the 3 years I have been in the business.

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Is that Toni from tonifreeland? If it is open it up to affiliates as I miss that sites conversions.

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Just say hello to the girl, have her take her clothes off and put your dick in her mouth. It's simple.

All you'll hear me say is "ooooooh shit" and "ummmmm that feels good"...but I don't yap throughout the whole shit. That would be silly.
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Are you a fucking reatrd? DO I not count as a CONSUMER? How about every single guy I know? They don't count? My OPINION as a consumer doesn't matter. Oh that's nice. Yep I'm the only guy who hates that crap and thus will not purchase those products.

Does your opinion matter to those companies?


Hmm...Let's take a look at this for a moment.....


They are all Million collar companies who have gotten there by selling what they think the consumer will like.

You do not like what they sell so that makes me a retard? Uh....OK.

To answer your question...No, clearly they don't give a fuck about you. In fact....Neither do I or most other GFYers.

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