Would you promote sponsors with only 50/50 rev share?

[WWC]

I see some affiliate programs out there still only with a rev share program of 50/50? How can they compete? Would you promote a program with only a 50/50 rev share available?

Please explain...

[digifan]

If you are in need of the money then why not? If they convert well..? And don't shave you. Guess what: I have a sponsor who doesn't offer rebills but has only exclusive content, high quality pics and movies so I am pulling a few $150 sign ups from them whenever I add or submit their galleries beacuse they are not over saturated. Variety is the name of the game.

[KMR Stitch]

Hey Raffi I just signed up for your program and got accepted.. Can you fwd me someone to chat with about your program on ICQ?

I can't seem to figure out how to get links with my ID/REFcode. I seem to get links without my ID/REF code

[hydro]

Of course. No point in pushing a program that pays 80% but converts 1:400 when i can get one that pays 50% and converts 1:100. People tend to get confused when big numbers are thrown around and you can tell which sponsors know how to use this to thier advantage.

[Chris]

I say if it sells 50/50 for be good as you know the sponsor is more than likely an honest sponsor and just lookin to make money aswell as getting you some cash

some of the best selling sites I have tried have been 50/50 and they turn out to make me more money than the 50 60 70 sign up places

[Love Sex]

I think they can compete because if the sites work well the member will stay for a few months. Then the payout will be equal or higher than a flat fee. I am new to this but I prefer to promote the rev share programs. I also assume revshare is better because if a company is making a high payout they are banking on the customer staying as a member. I am also using the RS for adultlounge.

[MikeHawk]

Originally Posted by hydro

Of course. No point in pushing a program that pays 80% but converts 1:400 when i can get one that pays 50% and converts 1:100. People tend to get confused when big numbers are thrown around and you can tell which sponsors know how to use this to thier advantage.

hydro...exactly!

We are one of those programs that grew our 50/50 rev share into now a pay per join and still rev share, most webmasters we worked with stayed with rev share, not to many jumped to pay per join. With our system it makes more money to stay Rev share.

One of the biggest SEO guys out there promoted us, and converted and made good money with us rev share, and posted those results, on his board, some of the biggest programs in the world we are right next to:

http://www.jays-xxx-links.com/links/webmasters.html

[InkedUpMess]

Originally Posted by AdultLoungeRaffi

I see some affiliate programs out there still only with a rev share program of 50/50? How can they compete? Would you promote a program with only a 50/50 rev share available?

Please explain...

Well, maybe not all us smaller programs see it as a competition.
I offer 50%, plus a cash bonus for certain amount of sales, but basically it's as digifan said..... The people who do promote us regardless of our size STAY with us because they make money.
Sometimes the ol' "If it aint broke don't fix it" applies!~LOL
We make our living doing this, and we grow steadily. That works for me right now.

[Shoplifter]

1. Conversion ratios.

2. Retention.

3. Third party accounting.

4. Third party accounting.

[adultguus]

Originally Posted by AdultLoungeRaffi

I see some affiliate programs out there still only with a rev share program of 50/50? How can they compete? Would you promote a program with only a 50/50 rev share available?

Please explain...

I don't understand such a question from somebody who owns a affiate program. Raffi, as many people said in this thread, why would anybody take a $35 fee for a sign-up when you can get 50% x $29,95 = $14,98 and for a really good sponsor with exclusive content and very frequent updates you may get an average of 3 months for a member, which turns out to be 3 x $14,98 = $44,93, which is almost $10 more per sign-up. What is not to understand about this?

[adultguus]

Oh and I like Shoplifters point 3 and 4 too

[Triple 6]

how many sponsors offer recurring on the 50/50?

[InkedUpMess]

Originally Posted by Triple 6

how many sponsors offer recurring on the 50/50?

Call me ignorant but I assumed that almost all who offer 50% offer it for life of membership.
I have affiliates, even a coupple here who have memberships recurring for over a year. I even have 3 guys been with me from day one in '03.
Pay per join is great, I personally can't afford to do it that way, but it's simply like gambling in a casino, the house will always win in the end. With a nice undersaturated program like mine and many others you get to stay on for the long haul, slow and steady.

[More Booze]

If its a site that fit my traffic and the ratios are good, yes.

[TDF]

of course

[rowan]

I wouldn't have any problems with a 50/50 revshare arrangement. The majority of my clicks go to ccbill based sites so I get a single payment (and stats login+interface) for them all. That's one of the major reasons I don't promote many PPS programs.

[adonthenet]

yes 50-50 its cool.

[WWC]

Originally Posted by KMR Stitch

Hey Raffi I just signed up for your program and got accepted.. Can you fwd me someone to chat with about your program on ICQ?

I can't seem to figure out how to get links with my ID/REFcode. I seem to get links without my ID/REF code

Yes, of course...i will have Art hit you up on ICQ.... btw, our contact us page has all the contact info http://www.adultlounge.com/contactus.html

Art Del Gado - Affiliate Manager ICQ 282499836
Ani Vartanian - Accounts Payables ( but go through Art first )
Raffi Vartanian - CEO ICQ 309606087

we have about 8 in house staff for AdultLounge.com and all here to make it happen for all of us!

[Art Del Gado]

Originally Posted by KMR Stitch

Hey Raffi I just signed up for your program and got accepted.. Can you fwd me someone to chat with about your program on ICQ?

I can't seem to figure out how to get links with my ID/REFcode. I seem to get links without my ID/REF code

If you have any questions or need help with AdultLounge.com, please dont hesitate to contact me toll free at 888-ADULT-50 or simply hit me up on ICQ: 282499836

[tranza]

Depends on their content...

[leedsfan]

Originally Posted by AdultLoungeRaffi

I see some affiliate programs out there still only with a rev share program of 50/50? How can they compete? Would you promote a program with only a 50/50 rev share available?

Please explain...

its all about the conversions. We pay 50/50%, ahve 3rd party software to ensure we dont shave, and have some of the best conversions in the business.

We also pay for the lifetime of the member, and you get paid out on all upsells by that member once they have signed up.

Its simple, low conversion pay less.

sign up with us today...

[Dalai lama]

Why not? Seriously, if they convert and the rebills are fine

[Babagirls]

Originally Posted by digifan

so I am pulling a few $150 sign ups from them whenever I add or submit their galleries beacuse they are not over saturated. .

finding a good revshare program that isnt oversaturated is hard to find.

i was doin 1:247 with a ccbill sponser 3 weeks ago, now im like 1:2000 the program got word of mouth that it was converting like crazy and then everyone started fillin up the linklists and tgp's with it.

i fuckin hate how everybody has to play "follow the leader" in this biz.

[ronaldo]

Originally Posted by Babagirls

finding a good revshare program that isnt oversaturated is hard to find.

i was doin 1:247 with a ccbill sponser 3 weeks ago, now im like 1:2000 the program got word of mouth that it was converting like crazy and then everyone started fillin up the linklists and tgp's with it.

i fuckin hate how everybody has to play "follow the leader" in this biz.

If you heard of a sponsor that was kicking ass, you wouldn't promote it?

Of course you would.

The problem is the idiots that tell everyone how well they're doing.

No offense, but when "I" find a sponsor that's rockin', I don't tell ANYONE! The 5-10% referral isn't enough to warrant me promoting someone else's webmaster program. That's their job.

[Tim]

Yep, I would.

[amaze]

If it convert well sure

[bigdog]

what about 100% revshare

[ULVideo]

What about 110% revshare? Plus bonuses, of course.

[Snake Doctor]

I almost exclusively promote revshare programs.....I don't make anywhere near $35 per sign up.....but I do more than twice the joins I did when sending the same amount of traffic to a per signup program......so I make more in the end which is all that matters.

[BV]

Originally Posted by AdultLoungeRaffi

I see some affiliate programs out there still only with a rev share program of 50/50? How can they compete? Would you promote a program with only a 50/50 rev share available?

Please explain...

This has to be the dumbest question I've seen today! Especially when AdultLounge pays 50% also or so it says on your site.

Also this subject can be very misleading.

For example some webmasters say they are 60% revshare when in fact they are much less and closer to 50% because they deduct the CC processing fees and sometimes other fees as well.

BVCash is a TRUE 50% partnership. This means our affiliates get exactly half of what their surfers pay and we cover all the processing fees (12-15%) and deduct nothing from their half for the life of that member. Years in some cases.

Ever heard the saying: "Don't always believe what you read." When it comes to percentages on revshare programs remember that saying!

Cheers,
BV

[The Heron]

Exclusive niche content. The good programs that don't haver 9999 cookie cutter sites, can offer 50/50 because they offer something the big shitty programs don't have and that is quality.
I will promote a program that pays me 30% if it is the only program in the world with that content and it converts.

[Theo]

Originally Posted by Shoplifter

1. Conversion ratios.

2. Retention.

3. Third party accounting.

4. Third party accounting.

why do u want 3rd party accounting my friend? everyone in this industry is trustworthy ;-)

[ytcracker]

if it made money yes

[WWC]

Originally Posted by tranza

Depends on their content...

Yes , exactly...only if you can see our members area....if your an affiliate of ours hit up Art on icq and ask for a temp username and pass :-)

[Sly]

I've been finding that the programs offering 60% or other "higher" amounts are also using cross-sells. I have no concrete evidence, but it seems to me that cross-sells would cut into retention. Since my income is dependent on good retention, I don't want any part of cross-sells or anything else that may cut into the retention. For those reasons I'd rather go either 50% or PPS, but no 50+%.

[PatrickKing]

Originally Posted by Sly

I've been finding that the programs offering 60% or other "higher" amounts are also using cross-sells. I have no concrete evidence, but it seems to me that cross-sells would cut into retention. Since my income is dependent on good retention, I don't want any part of cross-sells or anything else that may cut into the retention. For those reasons I'd rather go either 50% or PPS, but no 50+%.

We do 50/50 and cash bonus. But Our program is Part of http://www.TeenHitSquad.com ALL up sells are credited to affiliates. We dont give a million per sale but we do offer you the chance to make up to nine sales per unique. Thats fucking honest and hott!!

[WWC]

Originally Posted by BV

This has to be the dumbest question I've seen today! Especially when AdultLounge pays 50% also or so it says on your site.

Also this subject can be very misleading.

For example some webmasters say they are 60% revshare when in fact they are much less and closer to 50% because they deduct the CC processing fees and sometimes other fees as well.

BVCash is a TRUE 50% partnership. This means our affiliates get exactly half of what their surfers pay and we cover all the processing fees (12-15%) and deduct nothing from their half for the life of that member. Years in some cases.

Ever heard the saying: "Don't always believe what you read." When it comes to percentages on revshare programs remember that saying!

Cheers,
BV

Yes, AdultLounge.com pays 50% and up to 70% revenue share WITH NO DEDUCTIONS...And for your info, i asked that question to discussion reasons...oh and we probably have one of the best members areas in the industry and thats why most of our affiliates choose rev share with us...

Your right, " dont believe everything you read " ... test it first :-)

ps; AdultLounge.com Version 4.0 Coming Soon... 7 Money Making Programs and an entire new design, webmaster tools, and more....

[BV]

Originally Posted by AdultLoungeRaffi

most of our affiliates choose rev share with us

Just so i understand you correctly,

You say that most of your affiliates choose revshare so I would asume that it's a safe to say that most of your revshare affiliates are in the 50% bracket.

(I base this asumption on common industry knowledge that the majority of a programs affiliates generate less that $3000 per month which qualifies for 50% revshare according to your terms)

With this being said do you understand why your post/question i quote here: posted by raffi: "I see some affiliate programs out there still only with a rev share program of 50/50? How can they compete? Would you promote a program with only a 50/50 rev share available?"

Why would you ask such a question when you already know the answer based on your own admission that most of your affiliates are revshare affiliates?

I may be taking your post wrongly but it seems to me you were trying to convey a message that programs that offer just 50/50 revshare are subpar in this industry.

Cheers,
BV

[angeleyes]

Made in Porn offers 50/50 Revshare and does quite well. They also offer 60/40 if the Webmaster wants to promote tours with exit consoles. As many people pointed out, it depends on the quality of the product and in the end, the money you make. People sometimes do lose sight of the bigger picture when large numbers are in the mix.