Foundrynap customers err and ya you kbizzle - GoFuckYourself.com

JFPdude · 02-23-2005, 02:50 AM

As you know me and Karl from Stead Fast Networks has been going round and round on the boards the last few nights. I'd like to offer everyone a reason why and hopefully help some people out of a bad situation.

It sounded like we were both competeing for foundrynap customers to each other. Karl thought I was throwing things at him trying to take foundrynap customers and he thought I thoguht he wwas trying to steal the customers from Chris.

Both of which is probably true. (kidding)

However what it boils down to was we were both trying to look out for the best interests of foundrynaps customers. With Chris being MIA and his customers not knowing which way to turn it is quite chaotic. Being here for some time and seeing this happen before (should I mention likewhoa?) I am tired of seeing shitty hosts come on this board offering the world and screwing the webmasters when the dust settles.

Turns out Karl doesn't want the webmasters left in the dust either.

In steps kbizzle and he is owed money from Chris. This adds to the whole mess. Because if I keep telling customers to get off of Chris's network kbizzle will not have any chance of being paid. So here we sit and what to do. Let Chris fall? After all he did bring it upon himself. But where does that leave his customers many of whom I call my freinds and kbizzle who surely needs to get paid for his part of the deal.

Well we can't ask Chris as he is MIA. Chris's father keeps calling Karl and promising that Chris will contact him. This hasn't happened.

Well in steps Karls network administrator Kevin ... and outside the bashing on the boards actually me and Kevin were having a great conversation and he was fixing things as we talked. Through this medium (Kevin) Karl realizes I could care less about Chris but I'm interested that his customers are not left in the wake of another likewhoa deal. That was the ice breaker and things between me and Karl started getting to a civilized tone in ICQ.

Now where am I going with all of this. What me and Karl have decided is that the foundrynap customers surely need the support they deserve. But legally nobody can touch Chris's network because outside the rumors Chris is paid in full to his host.

So me and Karl are throwing around ideas to help the foundrynap customers out until either Chris returns or March 2nd. We are throwing around viable options for the foundrynap customers and have to talk the legalities of everything in the morning. I will not touch a network that I am not allowed to and neither will Karl we both have high business ethics in that degree. But there may be some options seeing as Karl is Chris's upline provider without touching Chris's network.

So if everyone bears with us throughout the day till we can figure this out it would be much appreciated.

And when Chris gets back he better be thankful we are doing anything at all. LOL

JFPDude

BTW Karl has headed off to bed as I am to deal with this in the morning.

Manansala · 02-23-2005, 04:18 AM

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bluff · 02-23-2005, 04:21 AM

What a good ICQ convo can do...

baddog · 02-23-2005, 04:21 AM

man . . . so many things I could say . . . but I will refrain for now

Manansala · 02-23-2005, 04:45 AM

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Pornopat · 02-23-2005, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Manansala

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kmanrox · 02-23-2005, 08:01 AM

hey guess what, nobody cares about your low level asses, k?

JFPdude · 02-23-2005, 08:22 AM

94 views ... 6 replies and none of them from foundrynap customers ... and a few messages in email and icq ... Those that have replied have axez to grind or starting up their own hosting so yes I believe it is of some concern to people.

Now me and Karl in order to figure things out need to know what the concerns are. People that are hosted with foundrynap can either ICQ me at 44-33-144 (ICQ seems screwed right now though) or email me at [email protected] This email will go to me, Karl, and foundrynap support so everything can be seen by Chris on his return.

Now somethings may not be able to be addressed immediately due to the fact that we cannot touch his servers. However you may be surprised at what can be done. If your not a foundrynap customer and just want to flame me do so in another thread I'll reply this thread is trying to help foundrynap customers out so they are not left out in the dark like likewhoa customers were when likewhoa had to close up.

kbizzle I know your watching these threads email me.

dubsix · 02-23-2005, 08:35 AM

nice to see you guys playing nice now

and yes it's admirable that you are stepping in to help out the refugees

PeekHoles · 02-23-2005, 08:56 AM

Well I'm a foundrynap customer since last June, but I have already found myself a new host phatservers. Matt and Sly have been very helpful and just about have all my stuff transferred over to the new server. I honestly thought Chris would not pull this kind of stunt, rumor is Chris is in jail. So I guess Chris was a one man show since there is zero support and his home page is still hacked. I was looking around last night at webhostingtalk, and found several threads and a lot of people scammed by "Chris Gotzmann Treto, AKA MrDredd, Magg" do a search you will see what I mean. If your still with foundrynap I would get out quick what are you going to do if you have a server problem. Oh well I guess you live and you learn I know I did.

dubsix · 02-23-2005, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forplaz

Well I'm a foundrynap customer since last June, but I have already found myself a new host phatservers. Matt and Sly have been very helpful and just about have all my stuff transferred over to the new server. I honestly thought Chris would not pull this kind of stunt, rumor is Chris is in jail. So I guess Chris was a one man show since there is zero support and his home page is still hacked. I was looking around last night at webhostingtalk, and found several threads and a lot of people scammed by "Chris Gotzmann Treto, AKA MrDredd, Magg" do a search you will see what I mean. If your still with foundrynap I would get out quick what are you going to do if you have a server problem. Oh well I guess you live and you learn I know I did.

that is exactly why he was banned on almost every other webmaster related forum and why nobody else in the industry had any respect for him / foundry.

JFPdude · 02-23-2005, 09:03 AM

Forplaz ... cool ... phatservers won't let you down. Sly, Moose and the team over there are great people and Moose does all he can do to make sure stuff is working and right.

Manowar · 02-23-2005, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Manansala

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stfu

JFPdude · 02-23-2005, 11:14 AM

Bump for informational value.

02-23-2005, 02:50 AM	#1
JFPdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mountains of Western North Carolina. Posts: 4,027	Foundrynap customers err and ya you kbizzle As you know me and Karl from Stead Fast Networks has been going round and round on the boards the last few nights. I'd like to offer everyone a reason why and hopefully help some people out of a bad situation. It sounded like we were both competeing for foundrynap customers to each other. Karl thought I was throwing things at him trying to take foundrynap customers and he thought I thoguht he wwas trying to steal the customers from Chris. Both of which is probably true. (kidding) However what it boils down to was we were both trying to look out for the best interests of foundrynaps customers. With Chris being MIA and his customers not knowing which way to turn it is quite chaotic. Being here for some time and seeing this happen before (should I mention likewhoa?) I am tired of seeing shitty hosts come on this board offering the world and screwing the webmasters when the dust settles. Turns out Karl doesn't want the webmasters left in the dust either. In steps kbizzle and he is owed money from Chris. This adds to the whole mess. Because if I keep telling customers to get off of Chris's network kbizzle will not have any chance of being paid. So here we sit and what to do. Let Chris fall? After all he did bring it upon himself. But where does that leave his customers many of whom I call my freinds and kbizzle who surely needs to get paid for his part of the deal. Well we can't ask Chris as he is MIA. Chris's father keeps calling Karl and promising that Chris will contact him. This hasn't happened. Well in steps Karls network administrator Kevin ... and outside the bashing on the boards actually me and Kevin were having a great conversation and he was fixing things as we talked. Through this medium (Kevin) Karl realizes I could care less about Chris but I'm interested that his customers are not left in the wake of another likewhoa deal. That was the ice breaker and things between me and Karl started getting to a civilized tone in ICQ. Now where am I going with all of this. What me and Karl have decided is that the foundrynap customers surely need the support they deserve. But legally nobody can touch Chris's network because outside the rumors Chris is paid in full to his host. So me and Karl are throwing around ideas to help the foundrynap customers out until either Chris returns or March 2nd. We are throwing around viable options for the foundrynap customers and have to talk the legalities of everything in the morning. I will not touch a network that I am not allowed to and neither will Karl we both have high business ethics in that degree. But there may be some options seeing as Karl is Chris's upline provider without touching Chris's network. So if everyone bears with us throughout the day till we can figure this out it would be much appreciated. And when Chris gets back he better be thankful we are doing anything at all. LOL JFPDude BTW Karl has headed off to bed as I am to deal with this in the morning.

02-23-2005, 08:01 AM	#7
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,292	hey guess what, nobody cares about your low level asses, k? __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor

02-23-2005, 04:18 AM	#2
Manansala Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 551	Hahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha hahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahaha haahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahah ahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahah ahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaa hahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahaha hahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahaha hahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahah ahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahah ahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahah aahaha!

02-23-2005, 04:21 AM	#3
bluff Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bluffville Posts: 6,253	What a good ICQ convo can do...

02-23-2005, 04:21 AM	#4
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	man . . . so many things I could say . . . but I will refrain for now

02-23-2005, 04:45 AM	#5
Manansala Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 551	I can only say... Hahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha hahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahaha haahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahah ahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahah ahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaa hahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahaha hahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahaha hahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahah ahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahah ahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahah ahahaha! Coz.. I am speechless... Hahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha hahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahaha haahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahah ahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahah ahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaa hahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahaha hahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahaha hahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahah ahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahah ahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahah ahahaha!

02-23-2005, 08:22 AM	#8
JFPdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mountains of Western North Carolina. Posts: 4,027	94 views ... 6 replies and none of them from foundrynap customers ... and a few messages in email and icq ... Those that have replied have axez to grind or starting up their own hosting so yes I believe it is of some concern to people. Now me and Karl in order to figure things out need to know what the concerns are. People that are hosted with foundrynap can either ICQ me at 44-33-144 (ICQ seems screwed right now though) or email me at [email protected] This email will go to me, Karl, and foundrynap support so everything can be seen by Chris on his return. Now somethings may not be able to be addressed immediately due to the fact that we cannot touch his servers. However you may be surprised at what can be done. If your not a foundrynap customer and just want to flame me do so in another thread I'll reply this thread is trying to help foundrynap customers out so they are not left out in the dark like likewhoa customers were when likewhoa had to close up. kbizzle I know your watching these threads email me.

02-23-2005, 08:35 AM	#9
dubsix Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 363	nice to see you guys playing nice now and yes it's admirable that you are stepping in to help out the refugees

02-23-2005, 08:56 AM	#10
PeekHoles Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,151	Well I'm a foundrynap customer since last June, but I have already found myself a new host phatservers. Matt and Sly have been very helpful and just about have all my stuff transferred over to the new server. I honestly thought Chris would not pull this kind of stunt, rumor is Chris is in jail. So I guess Chris was a one man show since there is zero support and his home page is still hacked. I was looking around last night at webhostingtalk, and found several threads and a lot of people scammed by "Chris Gotzmann Treto, AKA MrDredd, Magg" do a search you will see what I mean. If your still with foundrynap I would get out quick what are you going to do if you have a server problem. Oh well I guess you live and you learn I know I did.

02-23-2005, 09:03 AM	#12
JFPdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mountains of Western North Carolina. Posts: 4,027	Forplaz ... cool ... phatservers won't let you down. Sly, Moose and the team over there are great people and Moose does all he can do to make sure stuff is working and right.

02-23-2005, 11:14 AM	#14
JFPdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mountains of Western North Carolina. Posts: 4,027	Bump for informational value.