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Old 02-19-2005, 10:32 AM   #51
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Old 02-19-2005, 10:39 AM   #52
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Fuck IE, had nothing but problems with my computer using IE. it's been 6 months now and not had 1 issue with firefox
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Old 02-19-2005, 11:26 AM   #53
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Seems like IE7 will be more secure:

Internet Explorer 7 Announced

It may be simply an idea whose time has come. It may be that Firefox
is making enough noise to raise some eyebrows in Redmond. Either
way, it looks like IE7 is on its way.

Today at the RSA Security Conference in San Francisco, Bill Gates
announced plans for a new version of the world's most widely used
Internet browser. Experimental versions of Internet Explorer 7 are
expected to be ready for testing as early as this summer. The new
and improved IE is apparently being developed with security being
tops on the priority list. Measures to help users avoid ?Phishing'
scams, spyware and viruses are expected to addressed in full as
Gates pointed out that Microsoft has dedicated nearly $2 billion of
it's annual research and development budget on security.

While Internet Explorer still holds in excess of 90% of the browser
market share, the new Firefox browser continues to gain popularity
largely from veteran surfers seeking a higher level of security.
Some statistics show Firefox with as much as 5% of the browser
market. While 5% may be a far cry from IE's 90%, it represents one
of the strongest showings from a non IE browser in the past 10
years or so.

IE 7 To Address Security Issues

Yesterday, Microsoft announced the upcoming update of their web
browser, Internet Explorer, which will be updated to 7.

Promising better security, IE 7 looks to address the number of
vulnerabilities contained by older versions of the browser. The new
version is expected to more effectively combat spyware, malware,
and phishing attacks.

According to Microsoft, "[Bill] Gates announced Internet Explorer
7.0, designed to add new levels of security to Windows XP SP2
while maintaining the level of extensibility and compatibility
that customers have come to expect. Internet Explorer 7.0 will
also provide even stronger defenses against phishing, malicious
software and spyware."

Expect IE 7 to arrive in beta testing format this summer."
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Old 02-19-2005, 11:28 AM   #54
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Old 02-19-2005, 11:28 AM   #55
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Old 02-19-2005, 11:33 AM   #56
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Old 02-19-2005, 11:38 AM   #57
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Firefox downloads went over the 25 Million mark on Friday.

I had no idea the number of downloads equal the number of users.
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Old 02-19-2005, 12:46 PM   #58
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Old 02-19-2005, 12:56 PM   #59
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firefox is a good browser but Interent explorer dominates over the interent...
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Old 02-19-2005, 12:57 PM   #60
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That is great. Now figure out a way to gain from it.
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Old 02-19-2005, 01:03 PM   #61
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I had no idea the number of downloads equal the number of users.

No shit I've downloaded FireFox I rarely use it. Mostly because it loads pages slower than molasses in January.
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Old 02-19-2005, 01:12 PM   #62
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Yeah, the 25 million downloads figure is suspect... Over the last 5 years I've probably downloaded various mozilla varients a few hundred times.
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Old 02-19-2005, 01:13 PM   #63
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I think IE would be dead already if it didn't come along with Windows.
You got it. Most people just dont know better.
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Old 02-19-2005, 01:27 PM   #64
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Haven't tried it. I've been a hardcore IE user since being online. I'm not tech savvy at all and it's difficult for me to change software/browsers I'm used to.

That said, I've never really had any problems with IE. I have my anti-virus and firewalls installed and have never had problems as a result of IE vulnerabilities.

But competition is good and I hope FF or the others continue on to branch out.
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Old 02-19-2005, 01:29 PM   #65
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What's stupid is freaking out like a newbie surfer and changing browsers every X months. We as web developers, programmers, web site owners, etc etc should be one step above a common surfer and know how to prevent and/or fix any and all types of exploits. I have been on the internet for 10 years and I have only had one browser issue with some dumb toolbar because I decided to install a game I wanted to play, which came with a bunch of crap I didn't need. Other than that, EVERY software in existence is vulnerable in some way. It's just a matter of time before someone or a group people bring it to the surface.

Is it better to keep putting a band aid on a gaping wound or know how to stop injuring yourself? I vote for learning how to manage something that you use everyday, instead of running from the problem.

It's only a matter of time before there's 2000 threads titled "WARNING! NEW FIREFOX EXPLOIT" *open thread* 'I'm not using Firefox anymore, fuckkkkkk that! I'm using (insert trendy new browser) '


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Old 02-19-2005, 01:29 PM   #66
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Old 02-19-2005, 02:01 PM   #67
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Old 02-19-2005, 02:05 PM   #68
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Why all the hate about firefox? Did a moz developer kill your grandmother or something?
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Old 02-19-2005, 02:10 PM   #69
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awesome, I hope they release a new version soon, not there is anyting wrong with the current one, but hopefully they'll add in some cool new features...
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What's stupid is freaking out like a newbie surfer and changing browsers every X months. We as web developers, programmers, web site owners, etc etc should be one step above a common surfer and know how to prevent and/or fix any and all types of exploits. I have been on the internet for 10 years and I have only had one browser issue with some dumb toolbar because I decided to install a game I wanted to play, which came with a bunch of crap I didn't need. Other than that, EVERY software in existence is vulnerable in some way. It's just a matter of time before someone or a group people bring it to the surface.
"One step above a common surfer" means not using shit tools like IE just because they came installed with your OS.
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Old 02-19-2005, 02:15 PM   #71
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So you like firefox, why dont ya take the next step and try O P E R A !!!!!!!!.
You will be pleasently suprised !
Firefox is so fuckin slow, even with the tweaks (allthough faster than "you know what")
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Old 02-19-2005, 02:19 PM   #72
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"One step above a common surfer" means not using shit tools like IE just because they came installed with your OS.
Well maybe I don't thnk IE is shit. MAYBE I don't have problems with IE, MAYBE I have anti-virus, anti-spyware a firewall and I stay away from russian aniamal porn sites.

WHY should I switch to a browser that is SLOWER and more of pain in the ass for me to use? WHY? because it's the "cool" browser now? Or the browser of "rebels". Take the "fight the power" crap elsewhere.
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Old 02-19-2005, 04:07 PM   #73
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From a security perspective, the main problems with IE is activeX, the fact that IE is tied into the windows kernel, and thus that you can't ever remove it. From a web developer perspective, you have the non-standard html rendering problem. Ask the tech support in any large isp or corp what their number one problem is, they will tell you it is spyware - made possible by IE and your corporate overlords in redmond. All the IE lovers in this thread are just showing how technically illiterate they are, and that they are not fit to be administering their own systems.
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Old 02-19-2005, 06:11 PM   #74
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just wanted to point this out again
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Old 02-19-2005, 06:17 PM   #75
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Old 02-19-2005, 07:40 PM   #76
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All the IE lovers in this thread are just showing how technically illiterate they are, and that they are not fit to be administering their own systems.

You show how arrogant you are. You aren't even good enough to be dog crap on the bottom of my shoe FUCKTARD. Illiterate. Hey when you can actually get into Mensa maybe we'll do a IQ measuring contest. Ok Einstein?
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Firefox just stopped a celeb site from installing some funking app on my PC.

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post the site so I can see if I get it on my PC I'm using IE.
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