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Hey I need to see more hits from that campaignOriginally posted by spunkyI love these my dick is bigger than yours threads
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Hit me up..let's change the text a bitOriginally posted by Furious_MaleHey I need to see more hits from that campaign 49409205
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Thats what I was thinking. I will catch you tomorrow I need to get some sleep. ThanksOriginally posted by spunkyHit me up..let's change the text a bit 49409205
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consistancy is the key... if you make 20K one month and then 5k another month u AINT MAKING 20/month... take fucking year of salary and devide !Comment
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its all about automation, ingenuity, innovation. you either got it or you dont.Comment
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dont you feel lonely ?Originally posted by quiet
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Yes, it doesn't take long to switch things but when you're dealing with one sponsor the whole year, making awesome money, spending it all like a retard and not saving any of it, then next month comes along and your sales drop to nothing it hurts badly. If Iwould have been smart with my money itwould not have been so bad.Originally posted by will76
Of course, all that money was made from TGP traffic so I couldn't just switch the galleries that were on the server. That would have taken forever andpossibly got me banned from many places.ICQ: 16544251 - Skype: gator37 @ eastlink.ca - email: yngwie @ isys.caComment
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This thread has been very informative if you can see through the who helps who and got fucked, and the pay cut stuff. Great thread Detoxed.Comment
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see my sigOriginally posted by zentz
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"Most millionaires are well disciplines. They set their own high goals then go on to reach these high standards. More often than not they don't have others telling them what must be done. In fact one of the hallmarks of discipline is one ability to become economically successful without being given a roadmap. Millionaires make their own road maps and no one tells them what time to wake up or go to work." - Taken from the Millionaire Mind
I have yet to make a living in this industry but I will. Find something that works, improve on it and multiply it and be original.Comment
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Exact , i totally agreeOriginally posted by bdldComment
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I'm on my way to making $20k+ a month. And when that happens, I'll be working on making 6 figures a month in this business.i buy massive xxx dating traffic.Comment
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Actually, want to hear something great?Originally posted by MrPheerWell here is the problem. You show one of those what to do, and then they start making some dough right? Then when you need a hand with something, they turn thier back on you. Or they wont even signup under your ref code. Or they keep sending you messages, always asking for help and new shit but they NEVER share what they find on thier own with you. They dont even want to split programming costs with you when you're working on the same shit they are.
Does this sound familiar to some of you reading this? Good, I hope you choke to death while you're trying to figure out why I dont answer your fucking ICQ's anymore.
So I say fuck those guys. If they arent smart enough to figure out how to move beyond submitting galleries and learning how to make $250k+ a year on thier own, let them drown in thier misery.
I have a friend who when I was curious about advancing into another arena of adult helped me out and showed me what to do - now because of a better understanding; I have a pretty damned good idea to make a lot of fucking money from this avenue of industry, and I am just waiting for him to come back online soon so I can lay it out for him and work on it with him.
I don't hide it, I divide it.
But that's my gift man, you show me the insides of something, and 90% of the time once I know all the angles I can turn it into something more efficient, more profitable and more enjoyable. So if anyone wants to include me in something secret, I'm pretty positive I'll think of a better way to do it or a way to make more money from it.
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As an affiliate its difficult.
But as a P.O its simple.Care about me?
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Working on that, however i feel a bigger burden, supporting 2 part timers and one full timer is a lot of responsibility, so I feel pressed to get something more long term, less vulnerable.Originally posted by kaliboy2gSpam link hereComment
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yeah it was a great time ...Originally posted by Yngwie
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I'm also made about 15K/month for a while many years ago. Now I'm just a poor lawyer...- *** -Comment
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I dumped my paysite in 99 when epoch was having problems and going for weeks without sending checks. I've been a professional affiliate ever since. Go for revshare programs and let someone else worry about the headaches of running a paysite and dealing with affiliates and all the other stuff.Originally posted by kaliboy2gComment
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No it's not. You can have 100 paysites but if you know how to market them you dont make shit, but you still need to pay the hosting, take care of affiliates ect. You really dont have a clue.Originally Posted by kaliboy2g
As an affiliate its difficult.
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Yup, but I don't make anywhere near that in adult... But then again I'm just getting into adult. I'm here to learn.★★★
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How much does it cost to make 20k a month?custom cam payouts - interested in your cam traffic for sale
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Simple answer: -$ +timeOriginally posted by Darby
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Actually, this is very common. Many webmasters make most of their money on 1 or 2 methods. When those methods die due to technical, regulatory, or other issues, then the bonanza ends. This has little to do with sponsors. There are many sponsors but only a few proven traffic methods that generate gold on a daily basis. That's why it is EXTREMELY important to diversify your traffic source.Originally posted by will76Comment
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Originally posted by $5 submissions
you mean like xanga and livejournal?Comment
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I can recruit and train a labor army to make that crew EVEN more $$$. Just lmkOriginally posted by detoxedMrPheer, what if some of the 250k + guys got together, and found ways to make millionsComment
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yes, and blogspot and about 5 others.Originally posted by mistress69Comment
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Yeah, good site to stop by once a week or so. Always has some interesting, and helpful stuff.Originally posted by $5 submissions#27024067Comment
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not everyone can make that much
do the math..
take the number of porn sites and divide up the amount of money spent each year on online porn..
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Exactly, diversify is key in this businessOriginally posted by $5 submissions
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20k is not enough.....Comment
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I believe in Darwin, this is a competitive business. Some people just don't got what it takes. I never got any help. And stopped giving advice too, cause 99% of them is just looking for the easy way.I love big boobs.Comment
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then you're an idiotOriginally posted by Yngwie
sorry, nothing personal, you seem a nice guy, but it shows complete irresponsibility when you earn far more than your living expenses and you spend all money on toys and fun without saving ANYTHINGI don't use ICQ anymore.Comment
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Competition, variation in goals, skills and ability.
Whatever your income, someone out there is probably working even harder to take it from you. There are more and more increasingly sophisticated companies with marketing reps, sales people, on-staff graphic artists, teams of programmers and customer service reps. In addition there is an endless flow of wild west free site owners adding to the competition at the affiliate level.
As a guy who has been up, down and then up again in this business the advice I would give to anyone is to not expect that your current income is going to last forever. Don't blow it all on women and toys. Build a good cash reserve for your business and yourself. Make it a goal to accumulate two years living expenses in the event you should need it. Make some investments if you can. Make a personal income spreadsheet that goes forward a few years showing income, savings and itemized expenses (auto, rent or mortgage, school loans, entertainment, groceries, TAXES!, etc). Assume your income will stay the same even if if you think it will grow. Stick to the budget. Make sure you are accumulating enough cash and assets to meet your goals in a timely manner. Underestimate income, overestimate expenses.Last edited by ADL Colin; 02-16-2005, 02:26 AM.
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PS If your cash and assets aren't growing on that sreadsheet and in real-life you are open to a disaster.
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Oh, yeah. And as start to make good money for the first time and you want to buy a nice car - cause most people in this business do - buy something 2 or 3 years old and save a lot of cash. Better to use that as a down payment on a house though.
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Nice adviceOriginally posted by Almighty Colin
I don't use ICQ anymore.Comment
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I learned that the hard way. It's really easy to get overly confident in this business - especially as sometime people go from nearly zero income to tens of thousands per month just by learning a few things or even stumbling upon something.Originally posted by polish_aristocratNice advice
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Why doesn't everyone who's making 20k a month have health insurance?Originally posted by detoxed"WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..
Its crazy..."
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Originally posted by Almighty Colin
Excellent advice
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exactly, its way above stupid to spend all your earnings let alone what you don't have..Originally posted by polish_aristocratthen you're an idiot
sorry, nothing personal, you seem a nice guy, but it shows complete irresponsibility when you earn far more than your living expenses and you spend all money on toys and fun without saving ANYTHING
anyway the banks love people like himComment
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Let me repeat-what would you be willing to PAY me to do for you, that would make money for us BOTH? there has to be some "dirty work"Comment
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Good advice, Colin. Diversification is key. Try to have both Adult and Non-Adult businesses. Online and Offline.Originally posted by Almighty ColinComment
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Originally posted by lazycash
Because we are too busy thinking about money to worry about thatComment
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Originally posted by detoxed
Sorry I don't spend a lot of time trying to image ways that I will lose money, I have a big imagination when it comes to thinking of ways to make money.
If you are talking about traffic source, yes it is stupid to rely on one source for traffic. But that is the person's fault for not diversifying and finding other traffic sources. As far as the programs you advertise, thats where I don't agree that is is bad to go with one company (all eggs in one basket).
Why isn't everyone making 20K a month ? easy questions to answert.
- Some people don't have the intelligence.
- Some people are lazy.
- Some people can not work for themselves and need to be told what to do/have no idea how to run a business properly. make bad decissions.
- Some people have no business skills and either burn bridges or blow money they make instead of growing their business.
- Some people have bad ethics.
- Some people make a few bucks and are happy with and have no ambition.
- Some waste too much time on GFY and prefer drama over money.
- Some people are ALL of the above.
- Some people have the right attitude but are in the wrong vehicle, ie. advertising a bad company or trying to start off with their own membership site.
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Diversifying is only good to some extent. You need to FOCUS as well.
"Diversify AS MUCH AS YOU CAN" is NOT VERY SMART. There are tradeoffs in diversifying: You need to acquire the knowledge of a new field and keep on top of things all the time.
Example: TGP galleries + SEO + AVS = enough diversification
TGP galleries + TGP sites + SEO + AVS + EMAIL + Design + Coding = You'll get lost and never fully exploit anything, and get stuck at XXX - XXXX $
Diversify into 2-3 branches of the adult biz (SEO, TGP, AVS....) but not more.
Then diversify all tools and services as well: Hosts, Registrars, Content providers etc.
And of course a whole bunch of different sponsors, covering the whole range of existing payment processors, and including PPS and Revshare
And I do not agree that you should run on- AND offline businesses for the purpose of offline being a 2nd "basket". I think it is safe to say that the internet is here to stay, and no diversification on/offline is requiredComment
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