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Mr Pheer · 04-09-2005, 03:47 PM

200 people making $20k a month

woj · 04-09-2005, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Paraskass

Everybody who thinks we can all be making 20k a month is smoking crack and I want some of it.
Come on fuckers, why doesn't every movie gross 300 millions $? And why doesn't every fast food restaurant have as many locations as McDonalds?

Same fucking reason as for porn. The market can only take so much. There is a total amount spent on porn and porn related products every year, and it won't go up forever, making the whole market like a big pie. Sure the pie gets a little bigger every year, but basically, the people making more money have a bigger part of the pie. When somebody starts making more money it means that somewhere else, somebody is making less. This can be explained for many reasons (better product, better prices, better services etc...)

Thinking we can all make 20k a month is noncense, unless somebody somewhere goes from making 100k a month to 20k a month so that 4 other people can make 20k.

very true....

$5 submissions · 04-09-2005, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPheer

200 people making $20k a month

Thumbs up!

V_RocKs · 04-09-2005, 05:06 PM

How to market Indian content. Get a kick as .in name and then make TGP's for them. Study their culture and crop thumbs accordingly.

clickhappy · 04-09-2005, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

How to market Indian content. Get a kick as .in name and then make TGP's for them. Study their culture and crop thumbs accordingly.

Thanks, I gave up on Indian after I bought a bunch of sets and submitted them everywhere and made nothing.
Im doing gay galleries now, we'll see how that goes.

nikki99 · 04-09-2005, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie

I remember making $15 000/month back in 2001 all on my own.. those were the days. Wish I would have been smart with my $

that was pretty good Yngwie ;)

$5 submissions · 04-09-2005, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

How to market Indian content. Get a kick as .in name and then make TGP's for them. Study their culture and crop thumbs accordingly.

Yep, plus there's tons of Indian optin groups.

$5 submissions · 04-13-2005, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by qwe

consistancy is the key... if you make 20K one month and then 5k another month u AINT MAKING 20/month... take fucking year of salary and devide !

True. Stability and sustainability is key. Diversity... plays a huge role in all this.

detoxed · 04-13-2005, 04:30 PM

I only make $20 now

TheDoc · 04-13-2005, 04:32 PM

Well.. It kind of comes down to choice. When it was just myself years ago I was more than happy with 8-15k a month. (I had some huge months but normally sat in the range)

As things grew and developed into a company, earning over 20k a month was easy. 10 joins a day isn?t hard.

If you are serious about your business and not new to the business.. 20k a month should be a cakewalk. Free traffic guys may have to work at it a little harder, but it just comes down to working your ass off and mastering your business.

pxxx · 04-13-2005, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Well.. It kind of comes down to choice. When it was just myself years ago I was more than happy with 8-15k a month. (I had some huge months but normally sat in the range)

As things grew and developed into a company, earning over 20k a month was easy. 10 joins a day isn?t hard.

If you are serious about your business and not new to the business.. 20k a month should be a cakewalk. Free traffic guys may have to work at it a little harder, but it just comes down to working your ass off and mastering your business.

It sure is harder nowadays, but i am still working towards it.

will76 · 04-13-2005, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

i've come close but never hit 20k on any given month but im willing to bet part of the reason ppl like detoxed can make such numbers is because of the contacts he's made over the years.

That's not accurate. I didn't post on a messageboard or really talk to anyone online the first 4 years i was online. I went to one show during that time and it was a 15 min drive from my house. The only person I met at the show was my attorney that I use. I am self taught and developed my entire system(s) on my own.

I worked in my own little corner, trail and error and just a lot of experimenting. Working with others helps (networking), but it can also hurt you if you confuse networking with bullshiting. If you spending 3- 4 hours a day bullshitting then you are hurting yourself. IF you get to the point and make your time networking valuable then you it will help you. I would say more then 50% of the people here are bullshiting.

The other thing you people who want to make more money needs to realize is that the company you advertise for plays a major rule in how much money you can make. I have double and tripled my income over night just from changing where i am sending my traffic not from adding more traffic. You can send your traffic to site A and make $100 and then send it to site B and make $1,000. Don't think all companies are a like, not be any means.

MetaMan · 04-13-2005, 10:24 PM

i would make 20k a month but i spend all my money on crack and hookers, i mean the only reason i have net connection is because i steal it from my neighbours.

ya ya some will see my nice cars, nice clothes, hot women but the truth is i barely afford my shoes.

Paul Markham · 04-13-2005, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by detoxed

Everyone doesnt have basic internet skills that we on GFY do. Everyone doesnt spend 16 hours a day online trying to make money.

Internet skills are not the key to making money in the porn industry. A programmer can be hired for cents, people with "Internet Skills" are churning out of high school every week.

Try hiring a PORNOGRPAHER for the same money. If someone offered me $20K a month to work for them I would assume they meant part time. Not being arrogant just honest. The skill sI've aquired do not come with a two year course at college or working six months on a key board.

Paul Markham · 04-13-2005, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Playa-Deak

I'm getting lost. You guys are making 10K/month. You run adult websites? I do also, is your site like my site? www.doggystylegirls.com or www.bootyshowcase.com what am I missing?

If you cannot answer that question yourself you will never make $20K a month.

Those sites are just bad, simple.

detoxed · 04-13-2005, 10:49 PM

want to get lots of traffic? find something that takes 1 minute to do and gets 4 clicks. do it 10,000 times a day.

will76 · 04-13-2005, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by charly

Internet skills are not the key to making money in the porn industry. A programmer can be hired for cents, people with "Internet Skills" are churning out of high school every week.

Try hiring a PORNOGRPAHER for the same money. If someone offered me $20K a month to work for them I would assume they meant part time. Not being arrogant just honest. The skill sI've aquired do not come with a two year course at college or working six months on a key board.

If anyone wants to hire me for consulting, honestly, it's $500 an hour and I will give you max 10 hours a week. I can't program worth a lick and my web design is average at best. I can't fix a computer and have no clue how to do any server side work but i know how to make money.

neewwman · 04-13-2005, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

The other thing you people who want to make more money needs to realize is that the company you advertise for plays a major role in how much money you can make. I have doubled and tripled my income over night just from changing where i am sending my traffic not from adding more traffic. You can send your traffic to site A and make $100 and then send it to site B and make $1,000. Don't think all companies are alike, not be any means.

THAT is a big part of the secret, folks.

My income has been soaring lately (over $32,000 for March) and a lot of it has to do with changing sponsors.

will76 · 04-13-2005, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by detoxed

want to get lots of traffic? find something that takes 1 minute to do and gets 4 clicks. do it 10,000 times a day.

LOL there are only 1440 mins in a day so that is a little bit impossible, but we get the point.

Paul Markham · 04-13-2005, 10:58 PM

Making $20 a month is not impossible or even unlikely. But it's not easy.

You need skills, application, talent and the ability to market. Do not cut corners, compromise or cheat.

Skills, do you have a skill that the world needs?

Application, are you prepared to work at it?

Talent, is the little ingredient that puts you above all the others doing the same as you.

Marketing, you may be God's gift to something but to make money you need the ability to sell yourself/product.

Cutting corners, there are few short cuts to success. Simply because others are taking that route.

Compromise, stay true to your beliefs. Learn as you go but be true to yourself.

Cheating, look around you at the cheats. Most of them could not raise $200 if they had to. Doing one deal makes you one profit. Doing the same deal time and time again makes you rich.

Look at me and if you were here think back 3 years when I arrived. I was told by all the experts my content is not needed, I did not understand the Internet so would not succeed and my attitude was not right for selling to Adult Webmasters. Most of those experts are now gone or out of the content business.

I stayed true to the above.

Now can you?

will76 · 04-13-2005, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by neewwman

THAT is a big part of the secret, folks.

My income has been soaring lately (over $32,000 for March) and a lot of it has to do with changing sponsors.

Neewwman, want to try changing it one more time for the better...

I switched a few times and landed on ClickCash... been content with them. 49K+ so far for April

The right sponsor means everything people. I can send all of this traffic to others sites and I would be one of the group here asking why can't i make 10K a week ????

Theo · 04-13-2005, 11:01 PM

if you have schedule and work on various things it's achievable. Fairly easy? It depends.

Hornydog4cooter · 04-13-2005, 11:02 PM

Think out of the box people think out of the box. Not once have i ever done anything webmaster related stated in this thread. You find some thing run with it al lthe way to the bank

Hornydog4cooter · 04-13-2005, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

Neewwman, want to try changing it one more time for the better...

I switched a few times and landed on ClickCash... been content with them. 49K+ so far for April

The right sponsor means everything people. I can send all of this traffic to others sites and I would be one of the group here asking why can't i make 10K a week ????

Will is not blowin smoke up your ass either with his april figures....

datatank · 04-13-2005, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hornydog4cooter

Will is not blowin smoke up your ass either with his april figures....

April?

quiet · 04-13-2005, 11:09 PM

hilarious thread.

detoxed · 04-13-2005, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by quiet

hilarious thread.

i think its funny how old it is!

Hornydog4cooter · 04-13-2005, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by datatank

April?

i know im a frigin month behind

Hornydog4cooter · 04-13-2005, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by detoxed

i think its funny how old it is!

Yeah but its good alot of good posting if you read it real well...

datatank · 04-13-2005, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by detoxed

i think its funny how old it is!

Detoxed what you been working on ?

MrJackMeHoff · 04-13-2005, 11:23 PM

20k is chump change

detoxed · 04-13-2005, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

LOL there are only 1440 mins in a day so that is a little bit impossible, but we get the point.

how many people can you hire? 100?

detoxed · 04-13-2005, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by datatank

Detoxed what you been working on ?

my social life

datatank · 04-13-2005, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by detoxed

my social life

How is that going? I sure hope you dont work on it around here heheh

detoxed · 04-13-2005, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by datatank

How is that going? I sure hope you dont work on it around here heheh

its going great, partying too much not working enough

will76 · 04-13-2005, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by detoxed

how many people can you hire? 100?

more then that... but i get the point.. good one.

will76 · 04-14-2005, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by datatank

April?

so far for April (April 1 - April 13)

detoxed · 04-14-2005, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

so far for April (April 1 - April 13)

want to discuss traffic sources sometime?

i have some good ones

will76 · 04-14-2005, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by detoxed

want to discuss traffic sources sometime?

i have some good ones

Keep'em for yourself ;) just send them to ClickCash and make bank.

detoxed · 04-14-2005, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

Keep'em for yourself ;) just send them to ClickCash and make bank.

maybe

i have made cash with them in the past..

$5 submissions · 04-14-2005, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

Keep'em for yourself ;) just send them to ClickCash and make bank.

Interesting.

will76 · 04-14-2005, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by detoxed

maybe

i have made cash with them in the past..

i'll help you

will76 · 04-14-2005, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions

Interesting.

Hey $5 submissions, when i start my blog network i will get with you for maintaining it for me.. i need someone to make entries.

Hornydog4cooter · 04-14-2005, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

Hey $5 submissions, when i start my blog network i will get with you for maintaining it for me.. i need someone to make entries.

Great guy great work you will be pleased

Veiga · 04-14-2005, 12:33 AM

I am....

Why? Coz I sale cheap make-money-fast tutorials to lazy webmasters!

w0rstluk · 04-14-2005, 12:55 AM

detoxed is a douche bag

will76 · 04-14-2005, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by w0rstluk

detoxed is a douche bag

oh yeah. why you say?

Greg B · 04-14-2005, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by detoxed

It seems like if a few ppl got together and actually used some brainpower, most of you would be making $20k a month instead of whatever it is you make.

It's about time a positive thread about makin' loot.

Theory is good, but the practical needs to be laid out. $5 Submissions has some good tips as well as several others.

Practically, making $20k a month is swell as long as it doesn't cost $19k a month to do it.

Ironically for me, less traffic means more money. I could never figure that out.

I've always done well with SEs. Don't have to be at the top to do the best. Yet I get fine tuned targeted traffic which translates into solid, dependable sales and rebills. If I went affiliate I would easily make well over $50k a month but it's too much a pain for now. Maybe by end of this summer. Tested it a few years ago and it shot off like a rocket.

I think you guys are right that if you have a good product/service and keep focused you have no choice but to expand. Be true to your resellers and customers and be diverse. Stick with the people and companies that are true and reliable. If a guy can't keep his word or you see him or her screw over someone else then cut them the fuck off.

No honor amongst theives.

Detoxed you're right on the bean there.

$5 submissions · 04-14-2005, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

Hey $5 submissions, when i start my blog network i will get with you for maintaining it for me.. i need someone to make entries.

We can do it, bro. Just hit me up via ICQ or YMSG or email me at info AT webmasterlabor DOT com

will76 · 04-14-2005, 06:00 PM

will do i should be starting my blogs in a couple months.

04-13-2005, 04:32 PM	#210
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	Well.. It kind of comes down to choice. When it was just myself years ago I was more than happy with 8-15k a month. (I had some huge months but normally sat in the range) As things grew and developed into a company, earning over 20k a month was easy. 10 joins a day isn?t hard. If you are serious about your business and not new to the business.. 20k a month should be a cakewalk. Free traffic guys may have to work at it a little harder, but it just comes down to working your ass off and mastering your business. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

04-13-2005, 10:58 PM	#220
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Making $20 a month is not impossible or even unlikely. But it's not easy. You need skills, application, talent and the ability to market. Do not cut corners, compromise or cheat. Skills, do you have a skill that the world needs? Application, are you prepared to work at it? Talent, is the little ingredient that puts you above all the others doing the same as you. Marketing, you may be God's gift to something but to make money you need the ability to sell yourself/product. Cutting corners, there are few short cuts to success. Simply because others are taking that route. Compromise, stay true to your beliefs. Learn as you go but be true to yourself. Cheating, look around you at the cheats. Most of them could not raise $200 if they had to. Doing one deal makes you one profit. Doing the same deal time and time again makes you rich. Look at me and if you were here think back 3 years when I arrived. I was told by all the experts my content is not needed, I did not understand the Internet so would not succeed and my attitude was not right for selling to Adult Webmasters. Most of those experts are now gone or out of the content business. I stayed true to the above. Now can you? __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

04-13-2005, 11:09 PM	#226
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	hilarious thread. __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

04-13-2005, 11:23 PM	#231
MrJackMeHoff Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: LOLLIPOP ISLAND =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Posts: 4,569	20k is chump change __________________

04-14-2005, 12:33 AM	#245
Veiga Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Portugal Posts: 157	I am.... Why? Coz I sale cheap make-money-fast tutorials to lazy webmasters! __________________ Sell me your portuguese Traffic! Euro Luso

04-09-2005, 03:47 PM	#201
Mr Pheer Retired Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 21,279	200 people making $20k a month

04-09-2005, 05:06 PM	#204
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	How to market Indian content. Get a kick as .in name and then make TGP's for them. Study their culture and crop thumbs accordingly.

04-13-2005, 04:30 PM	#209
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	I only make $20 now

04-13-2005, 10:24 PM	#213
MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	i would make 20k a month but i spend all my money on crack and hookers, i mean the only reason i have net connection is because i steal it from my neighbours. ya ya some will see my nice cars, nice clothes, hot women but the truth is i barely afford my shoes.

04-13-2005, 10:49 PM	#216
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	want to get lots of traffic? find something that takes 1 minute to do and gets 4 clicks. do it 10,000 times a day.

04-13-2005, 11:01 PM	#222
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	if you have schedule and work on various things it's achievable. Fairly easy? It depends.

04-13-2005, 11:02 PM	#223
Hornydog4cooter Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,859	Think out of the box people think out of the box. Not once have i ever done anything webmaster related stated in this thread. You find some thing run with it al lthe way to the bank

04-14-2005, 12:55 AM	#246
w0rstluk Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 78	detoxed is a douche bag

04-14-2005, 06:00 PM	#250
will76 Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: USA Posts: 18,037	will do i should be starting my blogs in a couple months. __________________ ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com PROGRAM SHIT LIST - DO NOT PROMOTE (click link for gfy thread) FNCash \| Media Revenue