well said :thumbsup

You and me both. ;)

Well here is the problem. You show one of those what to do, and then they start making some dough right? Then when you need a hand with something, they turn thier back on you. Or they wont even signup under your ref code. Or they keep sending you messages, always asking for help and new shit but they NEVER share what they find on thier own with you. They dont even want to split programming costs with you when you're working on the same shit they are.

Does this sound familiar to some of you reading this? Good, I hope you choke to death while you're trying to figure out why I dont answer your fucking ICQ's anymore.

So I say fuck those guys. If they arent smart enough to figure out how to move beyond submitting galleries and learning how to make $250k+ a year on thier own, let them drown in thier misery. :2 cents:

It sure does, thats why I do not help many people any more and something I will not help with at all, depending on the subject. TO many people in this business after you help them will try to fuck you over, stab you in the back, or not help you when you have a question or problem.

no, my site is like my site, its not ment to be like anyone elses. You do not have to have a site like someone elses to make money, do your thing, use your own ideas and you will make money.
I have known allot of people in this business who acted liek their shit didnt stink, claimed they were making all this money, only to shut down their site and disappear along with some of the dumbest ideas I have ever heard, the problem is, they bragged about how well they were doing they had other people trying to copy them and they also went down.

never helped anyone, never been helped.

edit: actually that's not quite true, the one time i helped, i got burned.

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:upsidedow

So what you're saying is that no one should help anyone else? Ohmy.

I've been helped many times before, and maybe I'm a weirdo, but I like giving back when I can. If I get jacked, (and I have been), then fuck it. Now I know who NOT to help any further.

Right now, I need all the help I can get because I DO want to understand this and be a success. I love what I do, and now it's high fucking time for me to make a living from it. If that means I have to humble myself enough to actually ask for something, so be it.

I'm sorry you got fucked over, Mr.Pheer. It sucks and I know it. But what you've learned from it isn't exactly what I would have hoped you'd learn. But hey, maybe I'm just weird. :)

MrPheer, what if some of the 250k + guys got together, and found ways to make millions :)

I didnt say I dont help anyone, I outlined a certain type. The moochers that take take take and never even throw you a bone.

One word: innovate.

You don't have to come up with a completely original idea, you can add to existing ones. There is no step by step guide or holy grail other than hard work and a little brainpower.

And don't piss your money away once you earn it. I have spreadsheets set up telling me how much money I should be saving each year for the next 20 years.

If you got ideas, I got motivation.

What kind of bone would you like? :Graucho

I understand now. Thanks for the correction. It's been a Monday all day long.

I got domains to go along with my ideas. But that's about all I've got. :Oh crap

I was waiting for someone to say this :winkwink:

You waited too long. Sleazy said it earlier, I think.

I am glad you really had me in mind all this time. I knew you were a great guy. :winkwink: :thumbsup

I love these my dick is bigger than yours threads :1orglaugh

That goes without saying.

How big is your dick?

Hey I need to see more hits from that campaign :winkwink:

Hit me up..let's change the text a bit :winkwink: 49409205

Thats what I was thinking. I will catch you tomorrow I need to get some sleep. Thanks :)

consistancy is the key... if you make 20K one month and then 5k another month u AINT MAKING 20/month... take fucking year of salary and devide !

its all about automation, ingenuity, innovation. you either got it or you dont.

dont you feel lonely ? :winkwink:

Yes, it doesn't take long to switch things but when you're dealing with one sponsor the whole year, making awesome money, spending it all like a retard and not saving any of it, then next month comes along and your sales drop to nothing it hurts badly. If Iwould have been smart with my money itwould not have been so bad.

Of course, all that money was made from TGP traffic so I couldn't just switch the galleries that were on the server. That would have taken forever andpossibly got me banned from many places.

This thread has been very informative if you can see through the who helps who and got fucked, and the pay cut stuff. Great thread Detoxed.

see my sig :)

"Most millionaires are well disciplines. They set their own high goals then go on to reach these high standards. More often than not they don't have others telling them what must be done. In fact one of the hallmarks of discipline is one ability to become economically successful without being given a roadmap. Millionaires make their own road maps and no one tells them what time to wake up or go to work." - Taken from the Millionaire Mind

I have yet to make a living in this industry but I will. Find something that works, improve on it and multiply it and be original.

Exact , i totally agree

I'm on my way to making $20k+ a month. And when that happens, I'll be working on making 6 figures a month in this business.

Actually, want to hear something great?

I have a friend who when I was curious about advancing into another arena of adult helped me out and showed me what to do - now because of a better understanding; I have a pretty damned good idea to make a lot of fucking money from this avenue of industry, and I am just waiting for him to come back online soon so I can lay it out for him and work on it with him. :thumbsup

I don't hide it, I divide it. :pimp

But that's my gift man, you show me the insides of something, and 90% of the time once I know all the angles I can turn it into something more efficient, more profitable and more enjoyable. So if anyone wants to include me in something secret, I'm pretty positive I'll think of a better way to do it or a way to make more money from it. :upsidedow

Awesome thread :thumbsup

As an affiliate its difficult.

But as a P.O its simple.

Working on that, however i feel a bigger burden, supporting 2 part timers and one full timer is a lot of responsibility, so I feel pressed to get something more long term, less vulnerable.

yeah it was a great time ... :)

I'm also made about 15K/month for a while many years ago. Now I'm just a poor lawyer...

I dumped my paysite in 99 when epoch was having problems and going for weeks without sending checks. I've been a professional affiliate ever since. Go for revshare programs and let someone else worry about the headaches of running a paysite and dealing with affiliates and all the other stuff.