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  • will76
    Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
    • May 2003
    • 18037

    #1

    Any "ex" Clickcash Webmasters here ?

    Just wondering how many of you have actually have tired them, and if you did and you are no longer with them, why ?
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  • sickkittens
    I am a meat popsicle.
    • Jul 2002
    • 25100

    #2
    I used to make alot with them. Ran into problems in the past, though.

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    • TheMob
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      • Jan 2003
      • 8584

      #3
      Originally posted by sickkittens
      I used to make alot with them. Ran into problems in the past, though.
      hm, what kind of problems?

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      • Veterans Day
        Confirmed User
        • Jul 2003
        • 8403

        #4
        use to use them but just cant play the "will I be banned this week" game sorry
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        • sickkittens
          I am a meat popsicle.
          • Jul 2002
          • 25100

          #5
          Originally posted by TheMob
          hm, what kind of problems?
          Awhile back that is all I ever promoted when I first started out. Did real well, then all of a sudden I'd get tracking issues (signups never being counted, etc.)

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          • TheMob
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            • Jan 2003
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            #6
            Originally posted by Veterans Day
            use to use them but just cant play the "will I be banned this week" game sorry
            why would they ban you if you're following the rules?

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            • sickkittens
              I am a meat popsicle.
              • Jul 2002
              • 25100

              #7
              Originally posted by will76
              Just wondering how many of you have actually have tired them, and if you did and you are no longer with them, why ?
              What type of traffic do you use to promote them now?

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              • will76
                Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                • May 2003
                • 18037

                #8
                Originally posted by sickkittens
                I used to make alot with them. Ran into problems in the past, though.

                What type of problems.. if it wasn't spam related you shouldn't have any problems....
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                • sickkittens
                  I am a meat popsicle.
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 25100

                  #9
                  Originally posted by TheMob
                  why would they ban you if you're following the rules?
                  For awhile, alot of people were getting banned and claimed they always followed the rules.

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                  • sickkittens
                    I am a meat popsicle.
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 25100

                    #10
                    Originally posted by will76
                    What type of problems.. if it wasn't spam related you shouldn't have any problems....
                    Tracking issues. They even "fixed" it for me. (This was literally years ago.)

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                    • will76
                      Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                      • May 2003
                      • 18037

                      #11
                      Originally posted by sickkittens
                      What type of traffic do you use to promote them now?
                      I throw everything at them but emails... as long as you don't generate complaints then you are fine with them...

                      Signups are being counted. they did have a problem about 1 - 2 years ago where they had a glitch and missed about 50 signups on my account. I didn't even notice.... not really. They contacted me and told me about it and added it to the next check... that right proved to me they are honest..

                      Why do you think they were not counted ? did you plug in your own card to test ?
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                      • sickkittens
                        I am a meat popsicle.
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 25100

                        #12
                        Originally posted by will76
                        Just wondering how many of you have actually have tired them, and if you did and you are no longer with them, why ?
                        Do you work for them or just help out people who signup under you?

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                        • sickkittens
                          I am a meat popsicle.
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 25100

                          #13
                          Originally posted by will76
                          I throw everything at them but emails... as long as you don't generate complaints then you are fine with them...

                          Signups are being counted. they did have a problem about 1 - 2 years ago where they had a glitch and missed about 50 signups on my account. I didn't even notice.... not really. They contacted me and told me about it and added it to the next check... that right proved to me they are honest..

                          Why do you think they were not counted ? did you plug in your own card to test ?

                          I used to get 20-30 signups a day with them then all of a sudden 0. I called and got help (they admitted there was an obvious problem). They were good with me even giving me money for my troubles but even since that happened signsups were way down along w/ conversions.

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                          • will76
                            Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                            • May 2003
                            • 18037

                            #14
                            Originally posted by sickkittens
                            For awhile, alot of people were getting banned and claimed they always followed the rules.

                            I can assure you that shit is not happening now, don't know if it ever happened.. he said. she said... i know they are hard on people that generate a lot of complaints... but they still work with you and give you the benefit of the doubt...

                            If you guys ever want to try them out again, I have direct line with support staff there and have a resource site i built around helping people make money with the program. I also help one on one with any questions you have and I will go through your site and give suggestions on how to make it produce the most signups with their program...

                            "un"offical clickcash guy here. lol
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                            • sickkittens
                              I am a meat popsicle.
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 25100

                              #15
                              Originally posted by will76
                              I can assure you that shit is not happening now, don't know if it ever happened.. he said. she said... i know they are hard on people that generate a lot of complaints... but they still work with you and give you the benefit of the doubt...

                              If you guys ever want to try them out again, I have direct line with support staff there and have a resource site i built around helping people make money with the program. I also help one on one with any questions you have and I will go through your site and give suggestions on how to make it produce the most signups with their program...

                              "un"offical clickcash guy here. lol
                              What's in it for you? I'm assuming you only help those that signup under you?

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                              • sickkittens
                                I am a meat popsicle.
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 25100

                                #16
                                p.s. I just wish I could get as many signups as I once did. When I promoted them back in the day, I got 1:30-1:50ish conversions but only $10 (1st level) a signup.

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                                • will76
                                  Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                  • May 2003
                                  • 18037

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by sickkittens
                                  What's in it for you? I'm assuming you only help those that signup under you?

                                  I've been at it for 4+ years with them and have ignored the referral income. I started my site about 2 months ago, (see sig) and I enjoy helping people. The other thing was my income has been level for years... only so much i can do in a day, and going at it about 80 hours a week as is, so the referal income offered a way for me to expand my income and help people at the same time. I wish i would have thought of it sooner. I also like how i can build a residual income, i help you out get you going and you might go on for years making bank, and making me money too. Right now, I walk away from my opperation and I will be making ZERO in a couple weeks time. SO residual income is a big plus as well. My goal is to make in referral money what i am making now on my own, in a years time, then i can cut back and enjoy some of my life a little more without taking a pay cut.
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                                  • will76
                                    Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                    • May 2003
                                    • 18037

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by sickkittens
                                    p.s. I just wish I could get as many signups as I once did. When I promoted them back in the day, I got 1:30-1:50ish conversions but only $10 (1st level) a signup.

                                    Wow you are really old school....


                                    Conversion rations dont mean shit really, I look at bottom line. IF you send all your traffic to program A and make 2K a week with a ratio of 1:100 and then you send it to clickcash, same traffic for 1 week, and you make 4K with a 1:300 ratio, who cares ;)

                                    Only thing i use ratios for it to see which of my ads converts better then the others, to compare affiliate program to affiliate program it is like apples and oranges... got to look at bottom line you make.
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                                    • will76
                                      Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                      • May 2003
                                      • 18037

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Veterans Day
                                      use to use them but just cant play the "will I be banned this week" game sorry

                                      Veterans... do you email spam or get a lot of heat for your advertising ?
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                                      • sickkittens
                                        I am a meat popsicle.
                                        • Jul 2002
                                        • 25100

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by will76
                                        Wow you are really old school....


                                        Conversion rations dont mean shit really, I look at bottom line. IF you send all your traffic to program A and make 2K a week with a ratio of 1:100 and then you send it to clickcash, same traffic for 1 week, and you make 4K with a 1:300 ratio, who cares ;)

                                        Only thing i use ratios for it to see which of my ads converts better then the others, to compare affiliate program to affiliate program it is like apples and oranges... got to look at bottom line you make.
                                        I hear ya. I don't pay too much attention to ratios. I mentioned it because the traffic was targeted so I knew I could make $ w/ CC. If I sent the same traffic elsewhere I probably wouldn't have made much.

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                                        • sickkittens
                                          I am a meat popsicle.
                                          • Jul 2002
                                          • 25100

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by will76
                                          Veterans... do you email spam or get a lot of heat for your advertising ?
                                          I remember awhile back people were claiming to be banned for no reason simply because they were doing so well. It happened in bunches but it's tough to say who was telling the truth and who wasn't.

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                                          • sickkittens
                                            I am a meat popsicle.
                                            • Jul 2002
                                            • 25100

                                            #22
                                            BTW, does CC know you have that site? I remember they asked some people to shut down their site because it had clickcash in the domain.

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                                            • will76
                                              Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                              • May 2003
                                              • 18037

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by sickkittens
                                              I remember awhile back people were claiming to be banned for no reason simply because they were doing so well. It happened in bunches but it's tough to say who was telling the truth and who wasn't.

                                              Ive heard that before. I think clickcash got some heat from a lot of people spamming so they cracked down, gave warnings, and people ignored them.. and a bunch prolly got zapped at the same time when the hammer came down... thats my take on it.. the spammers who get busted are the biggest complainers and will yell the loudest that they were scammed and never tell the real story.

                                              It just doesnt make sense. IF someone is sending in a lot of signups and not getting complaints why would they cancel their account.. what just so they dont have to pay them that week? and give up all the future sales that the person WOULD have sent them... seems way too short sighted.
                                              Last edited by will76; 02-14-2005, 03:56 PM.
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                                              • will76
                                                Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                • May 2003
                                                • 18037

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by sickkittens
                                                BTW, does CC know you have that site? I remember they asked some people to shut down their site because it had clickcash in the domain.

                                                Yeah we are cool

                                                Their Unofficial or offical, hell i can't remember which but as long as you use the name to promote the program and do it in an honest way, it's cool.
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                                                • sickkittens
                                                  I am a meat popsicle.
                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                  • 25100

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by will76
                                                  It just doesnt make sense. IF someone is sending in a lot of signups and not getting complaints why would they cancel their account.. what just so they dont have to pay them that week? and give up all the future sales that the person WOULD have sent them... seems way too short sighted.
                                                  The only thing I can think of is that maybe a large % of those free signups weren't making CC any money.

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                                                  • sickkittens
                                                    I am a meat popsicle.
                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                    • 25100

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by will76
                                                    Yeah we are cool

                                                    Their Unofficial or offical, hell i can't remember which but as long as you use the name to promote the program and do it in an honest way, it's cool.
                                                    Cool. Yeah, the site I mentioned basically was (legally) as a group, sending traffic so that they'd have all their signups on one account and then split the earnings afterwards.

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                                                    • Nismo
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                                                      • May 2002
                                                      • 4977

                                                      #27
                                                      i use to promote them back in 2000-2002. im looking to start promoting them again. hopefully they'll do better than epiccams, HSN & Lars.
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                                                      • TheMob
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                        • 8584

                                                        #28
                                                        I just started out with CC. I have to sign and fax in the Affiliate Agreement before they send out payments, correct?

                                                        I don't even have a fax machine anymore

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                                                        • Veterans Day
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                          • 8403

                                                          #29
                                                          The only mail I send is to friends and family. I have never mailed, but I also dont take chances with Clickcash now that I am doing around 3-4k a week. Just dont want to deal with it. I do know firsthand a few close buddies of mine that were termed, and no they dont mail. Support is another issue, I can icq my current sponsor almost anytime of the day and talk first hand. I dont play email tag with a support rep well.
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                                                          • Nicky
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                            • 30071

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by will76
                                                            Just wondering how many of you have actually have tired them, and if you did and you are no longer with them, why ?
                                                            I used to make pretty decent coin with them untill one day they decided not to pay anymore and wont return mails or anything......still owe me a cuple of 100 bucks.....

                                                            gfynicky @ gmail.com

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                                                            • WiredGuy
                                                              Pounding Googlebot
                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                              • 34512

                                                              #31
                                                              Their lack of being able to reply to my simple email inquiries is limiting the amount of joins I'll send to them. If I can't get support when I need it, there's lots of companies that are willing to fill this market gap.

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                                                              • Rui
                                                                web
                                                                • Dec 2001
                                                                • 9533

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by TheMob
                                                                hm, what kind of problems?
                                                                ClickCash had lots of problems when their account at Bank of America got closed, lots and I mean lots of people ended up getting bounced checks, and this happend over some time

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                                                                • sickkittens
                                                                  I am a meat popsicle.
                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                  • 25100

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by TheMob
                                                                  I just started out with CC. I have to sign and fax in the Affiliate Agreement before they send out payments, correct?

                                                                  I don't even have a fax machine anymore
                                                                  Go down to Kinkos or a drug store. ;)

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                                                                  • sickkittens
                                                                    I am a meat popsicle.
                                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                                    • 25100

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Rui
                                                                    ClickCash had lots of problems when their account at Bank of America got closed, lots and I mean lots of people ended up getting bounced checks, and this happend over some time
                                                                    Luckily I never had that problem but knew a bunch of people who it happened to.

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                                                                    • TheMob
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                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                      • 8584

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by sickkittens
                                                                      Go down to Kinkos or a drug store. ;)
                                                                      Yeah, but it's raining like crazy!

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                                                                      • Nicky
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                        • 30071

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Hey will76, I dont know why im not getting paid the money they owe me but if I open a new account with them under you, will you help me get things into gear?? It was years ago I promoted anything that had to do with livechat/webcams all my domains on that area are sold and some expired, but ofcourse i can always use other domains and buy new ones

                                                                        gfynicky @ gmail.com

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                                                                        • sickkittens
                                                                          I am a meat popsicle.
                                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                                          • 25100

                                                                          #37
                                                                          will, hit me up on ICQ 78881543

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                                                                          • Tipsy
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                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                            • 6989

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by TheMob
                                                                            I just started out with CC. I have to sign and fax in the Affiliate Agreement before they send out payments, correct?

                                                                            I don't even have a fax machine anymore
                                                                            Hmmm....is that true?
                                                                            Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                                                            • sickkittens
                                                                              I am a meat popsicle.
                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                              • 25100

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Tipsy
                                                                              Hmmm....is that true?
                                                                              Yes I believe you have to do that.

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                                                                              • BlueQuartz
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                                                                                • May 2004
                                                                                • 1971

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by TheMob
                                                                                I just started out with CC. I have to sign and fax in the Affiliate Agreement before they send out payments, correct?

                                                                                I don't even have a fax machine anymore

                                                                                yeah thats correct man

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                                                                                • sickkittens
                                                                                  I am a meat popsicle.
                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                  • 25100

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Is will still around? Anyone have his ICQ?

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                                                                                  • Nicky
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                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                    • 30071

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by sickkittens
                                                                                    Is will still around? Anyone have his ICQ?
                                                                                    I want his icq too....

                                                                                    gfynicky @ gmail.com

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                                                                                    • FreeFastHost
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                                      • 1588

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      I send them 5 signups/day or so and I get my checks every week like clockwork.

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                                                                                      • TheMob
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                                                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                                                        • 8584

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        he posted it in my ifriends thread the other day.. try digging it up

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                                                                                        • sickkittens
                                                                                          I am a meat popsicle.
                                                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                                                          • 25100

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by FreeFastHost
                                                                                          I send them 5 signups/day or so and I get my checks every week like clockwork.
                                                                                          That's one problem I never had with them.

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                                                                                          • sickkittens
                                                                                            I am a meat popsicle.
                                                                                            • Jul 2002
                                                                                            • 25100

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by FreeFastHost
                                                                                            I send them 5 signups/day or so and I get my checks every week like clockwork.
                                                                                            Do yours come upside down every week too?

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                                                                                            • will76
                                                                                              Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                              • 18037

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by sickkittens
                                                                                              Cool. Yeah, the site I mentioned basically was (legally) as a group, sending traffic so that they'd have all their signups on one account and then split the earnings afterwards.

                                                                                              So you mean VOLUME BROKERS ;) yeah that does open up a can of worms... now they dont give any official reponse to sites like that either. They don't endorse them, but at the same time they wont stop you from doing it... except if you get a lot of complaints... which is the same for any account. The VB guys were getting a lot of complaints from what I heard and it was out of control... as it was explained to me the account was eventually shut down because of too many complaints, and they were paid, and some the VB people didn't get paid contacted clickcash, and clickcash identified who they were and still paid them.... this is what i heard, I was not involved with any of this, but was around while it happned.
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                                                                                              • sickkittens
                                                                                                I am a meat popsicle.
                                                                                                • Jul 2002
                                                                                                • 25100

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by will76
                                                                                                So you mean VOLUME BROKERS ;) yeah that does open up a can of worms... now they dont give any official reponse to sites like that either. They don't endorse them, but at the same time they wont stop you from doing it... except if you get a lot of complaints... which is the same for any account. The VB guys were getting a lot of complaints from what I heard and it was out of control... as it was explained to me the account was eventually shut down because of too many complaints, and they were paid, and some the VB people didn't get paid contacted clickcash, and clickcash identified who they were and still paid them.... this is what i heard, I was not involved with any of this, but was around while it happned.
                                                                                                Can you hit me up on ICQ please.

                                                                                                thanks

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                                                                                                • will76
                                                                                                  Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                                  • 18037

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Nismo
                                                                                                  i use to promote them back in 2000-2002. im looking to start promoting them again. hopefully they'll do better than epiccams, HSN & Lars.

                                                                                                  Nismo, come back and give them a try and let me help you. I have a lot of resources, a full time designer who is making ads for ifriends based off of the stuff that has worked the best for me over the last 4 years... I have contact with support there as well.

                                                                                                  Checkout my sig and let me know if you signup. What ya got to lose ?
                                                                                                  ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com

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                                                                                                  • will76
                                                                                                    Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash
                                                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                                                    • 18037

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by TheMob
                                                                                                    I just started out with CC. I have to sign and fax in the Affiliate Agreement before they send out payments, correct?

                                                                                                    I don't even have a fax machine anymore
                                                                                                    Mob, are you in my group ? (signup through my site)
                                                                                                    ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com

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